to think that anyone who drives while over the limit is scum!!

[memoo]

I am so angry and upset!

Just found out that my friends DS was knocked over yesterday evening by a woman who was pissed! She mounted the kerb and knocked him from his bike.

He lost a couple of teeth and is very bruised but thank God he is ok.

How the hell can anyone think it is ok to get in a car when they're drunk? WTF do they think they are playing at. They should be banned from driving for life.

sumfingnew

moronic post.

xpost with curlymama

Quite serious, thank you.

My point is not that it is good, clever, fair or even remotely advisable to drive whilst drunk...just that we should be free to decide for ourselves what our limits are. If we harm others as a result of that decision, we should be very harshly punished.

Think back on all the people that have harmed others whilst drink-driving - in "my" world, they would all have received far harsher punishments - the consequence of which would have been fewer incidents, I suggest.

The machine gun example - commensurate with noise pollution regulations etc etc, yes you should be free to fire a machine gun BUT, if anyone gets hurt, then again, the punishment would be severe.

How random, I was just about to post and say "Why are you posting this in AIBU as only a poster with the intellictual capacity of a boiled egg would say YABU"

and here we are.

sumfing, your post is so ridiculous I have no idea where to begin!

Well, but some of us are better drivers when a bit pissed because we are more relaxed and also we are just really good anyway.

Appalling.

I am genuinely shocked at the number of people who don't see "just one more" as a major issue - ok, they may not be rolling drunk, but are clearly over the limit and therefore a risk to themselves and of course others. And there are plenty who ARE rolling drunk when they get in the car.

I had a friend at uni who was soooooooooooooo unbelievably drunk and stoned after a party. She drove home, crawled up the stairs. We said "how did you get home" she said "I drove". We said "OMG WHY" she said "because I couldn't walk" . Nearly 20 years on, I still vividly remember that moment like it was yesterday. Unbelievable that no one got hurt. And she literally could not walk.

On a similar level, the number of people I still see driving whilst on the phone I find truly too.

OP - so relieved the boy was largely ok. Could have been so much worse, so easily.

You seriously don't think it should be illegal to fire a gun into a crowd of people as long as nobody gets hurt? Really?

Hully, I think I think I am developing a crush on you

I think Sumfing is drunk and MNing at the moment

cikals I think you may well be correct

at your friend anonymousbird

She's probably driving as well.

and writing her posts on her mobile phone!

Memoo - quite. I mean, I was pissed right through my 3 years, stumbled around all over the place, so no moral high ground on the inability to walk at all, but the driving, even at 18, I knew that it was utterly unacceptable.

Shirley - and using her phone to post

Xpost!

Ladies, Gents...I'm not asking you to agree with me. Perhaps I lack the erudition and expressive skills of the rest of you and have let myself down by waffling, babbling or some such?

The firing of a machine gun into a crowd would no doubt cause alarm and panic ? this in itself is a punishable offence and can be quite easily dealt with.

My preference is for less laws, not more. I do not seek to ban, prohibit, limit or deter unless absolutely necessary and accept that much of human life is unpleasant or, in the words of Hobbes, ?nasty, brutish and short?. I believe laws that seek to protect us from ourselves are the very worst and prevent us from being ourselves and behaving like responsible adults.

I'm not sure I agree with SumfingNew, but I don't think her ideas are moronic.

The bottom line is that we expect drivers to be competent & responsible within the law because they're in charge of a hefty lump of metal travelling at high speed. Which is why we make them take driving tests, take out insurance, have their vision corrected, report when/if they have medical conditions that could impair driving ability, set speed limits, provide road markings etc.. The idea that we would just give anyone the keys and say... off you go if you think you're up to the job .... is ridiculous

No Jenai - no way is somefingnew a moron. She writes really well.

But the drink driving law isn't to protect us from ourselves is it? Its to protect innocent people from being killed by people who are not in a safe state to drive

Firing a shotgun into a crowd would constitute reckless endangerment, attempted murder or something. I wouldn't bother with noise regulations.

I hate drink drivers, we live in a v. rural area (SW England) and people drink and drive constantly even with children in the car, which is so utterly disgraceful. Our local community revolves around alcohol, i mean i have a bottle glass of wine at home most friday and saturday nights but where we live we are given wine for xmas plays at playgroup, leaving playgroup, open days etc In fact at bonfire night held at the local school tonight they are basing the ticket sales on the fact that they have a fully serving bar (at a school)!! I know for a fact that most of the people live a drive away and will have at least a 'couple'
Only a matter of time before -god forbid- something happens. Awful.

So so so glad your freinds DC is ok, poor thing!! Bet he is terrified.

No amount of punishment is going to bring back a dead victim.

''I believe laws that seek to protect us from ourselves are the very worst and prevent us from being ourselves and behaving like responsible adults.''

I can kind of see you point. Kind of.

But there are too many morons in this world that do need to be protected from themselves. Or at least the rest of us do. Which is why we have to have a law to ban drink driving, because too many people have already been killed by others that thought they were capable of making an rational decsicion, got behind a wheel, and turned their form of transport into a leathal weapon.