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AIBU?

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to think there is no justice in this world?

9 replies

frgr · 03/11/2010 22:29

I'm not sure if i'm just going through a 'down' spell, but over the last few years i've had my rosey tinted glasses well and truly removed.

i was brought up to believe that human beings are generally good, and that evil acts catch up with people (by the law, by karma, by associating with nasty people and therefore likely to have something bad happen to you).

certain things have made me re-assess my views, and i'm starting to think that even though we all walk around thinking we're safe and there is justice (someone does something bad/illegal to one of us, they will be caught, and if caught, punished)... there just isn't. it's all just a facade. it makes us sleep safe at night, but scratch below the surface and it's all just a facade.

a neighbour was mugged 3 months ago, they haven't caught them despite (hazy) CCTV being available. my neighbour across the road had her cat set upon by some teenagers in August - someone intervened, they ran off, and she opened the door to find her poor rather old cat needing emergency vet treatment which she can ill afford. no one caught, no convictions, not even any arrests despite witnesses (unfortunately who are unable to 100% identify them).

a few weeks ago, someone stole my rather new (newest i've ever owned) car, they took it for a joy ride, crashed it, total write off, and now i can't afford to replace at anything like the same level of car (it wasn't flashy, it was just a few years old, but for the first time, it was a reliable car that i owned outright) after the insurance claim and excess is taken care of.

in none of those examples in this year alone has anyone been caught and punished for what has happened, and i'm starting to become very very bitter.

today in a local paper i got all upset because i saw that a local hit and run driver has got 2 year (two) for killing a lady (dangerous driving conviction). How can someone's life be worth so little?

i'm starting to understand why people have sympathy for vigilante "justice" - because that's the only way i think people can sometimes be made to truly feel the repurcussions of the wrongs they inflict on other people

i'm an educated woman, with children, and it scares me, that i'm starting to feel so disillusioned with the world - in the UK, which is supposed to be a civilised country? don't worry i would never actually act on any of this, i'm just musing aloud really, but it does worry me that if I feel so frustrated at the way this country is going, what hope is there? what is to become of our children?

AIBU to expect people to pay for the harm they inflict on the people around them? these are hugely complex issues - what is going to happen with all the budget cuts going around - how will our police forces be able to cope?

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babylann · 03/11/2010 22:35

Sorry to hear about your car. :( I hope you can find a way to replace it soon. There's nothing better than having something new, and nothing worse than losing it almost straight away.

You aren't being unreasonable, it's an issue millions of people have a problem with all the time. Those people who get 6 months for attacking someone in the street for no reason vs. those people who get 10 years for committing fraud. It doesn't balance out at all.

And you're right, all the cuts are probably going to make the police force less able to do their job. Though, I've heard of hundreds of crime in my time, and have never heard of one worthy conviction. And I've had two relatives in prison - I don't think either of them got long enough. So, I don't know if the change will be too drastic. They don't seem to be doing very much as it is.

chandra · 03/11/2010 22:43

No, there is no justice in the world. This year I have stopped believing in justice, karma, and even God (at some points I have thought that if he exists he surely hates me) but I have learned one important thing:

-Things could be really bad but if you take them with the right attitude your good nature won't be damaged.

And why is important not to damage our "good nature"? because the moment we cannot longer trust, we became resentful and shut the world out, and with that we no longer have access to plenty of opportunities to be happy. :)

fluffles · 03/11/2010 22:50

i don't disagree that this is all crap for the victims (you included) but people who steal and crash cars, kill old ladies and torture cats are not happy people, they are twisted people without compassion who WILL be getting their comeuppance.. if not right now, and not through the courts, they will through how their life turns out eventually.

i don't care if that's rose tinted.

curlymama · 03/11/2010 22:57

YANBU.

Shit things happen to good people.

But I do believe in karma, and I believe that things work out in the end, even if we don't get to see it or know the reasons why bad things happen. I try to believe that every cloud has a silver lining, and even if it's very hard to see it, it's there if you look hard enough.

It sounds like you need to spend some time seeing the good things in life, the amazing kindness and generosity that is out there. Humans can be, and are, beautiful in many instances.

Marjee · 03/11/2010 23:09

Sorry to hear you've had bad things happen. I agree that sometimes life is unfair and it does horrify me to read about the despicable things people can do (particularly wrt your neighbours cat). However I'm constantly reminded that people are generally good, caring and compassionate towards others but sometimes its not obvious at first.

I had my car broken into a few years back (fuckers smashed the window and stole my stereo) and beyond issuing a crime number the police were no help. I felt like you do now at the fact that someone had stolen from me and was not punished, yet I lost my no claims discount and had to pay the excess. Its so easy to see the negatives in a situation like that but that night a stranger lent me his phone to call the police and let me park my car in his garage overnight and made me a cup of tea while I waited for dh to pick me up. In all the horrible stories you can read there are always kind people acting altruistically and I try to look at that instead of the bad thing, it really helps!

onceamai · 03/11/2010 23:19

Bad luck seems to go in runs. I hope the run is at an end and the good run is coming soon.

TacticalNameChange · 03/11/2010 23:22

YANBU. I feel complete despair sometimes.

But I also understand that it is very easy to criticise the people in the legal/prosecution system.

I am so happy that I do not have the weight of pressure police/prosecuters etc. have.

We can see things cleary; without policies/procedure litigation.

TacticalNameChange · 03/11/2010 23:31

I also should add that the police/ prosecuters tend to take lifesyles/ opportunities of offenders into considerations and we don't have to.

I honestly do not know whether that is a good or a bad thing.

Maybe someone with no chances in life SHOULD have robbed you.

Maybe someone with no chances in life SHOULD be helped so they don't have to rob you.

Maybe someone with no chances in life SHOULD sort themselves out, find a clinic and create a better life for themselves so they don't have to rob you.

ThatVikRinA22 · 03/11/2010 23:38

im a police officer. the law can be an ass - police only scoup up the facts to put before a court - we have absolutely no say in the judicial process - we just gather the evidence - its up to the courts to decide. i recently got told im in the wrong job if i want to be popular. yup.

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