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to be utterly PISSED with nursery?

53 replies

FishesLately · 03/11/2010 19:04

DS is 2.7 and in the middle of potty training. We always pack 2 pairs of pants and 1 extra pair of trousers in his school bag which he hangs on a peg in the mornings.

They went on an outing today to the Science Museum and kept them there for lunch, normally he goes 9-12 but was there 8.45-1 today.

I was informed that he wet himself in the Museum but they didn't bring anyone's spare clothing so he was LEFT in his wee until they got back to nursery at 12.45 and said that it had dried so they just left him.

AIBU to be severely pissed off about this?

OP posts:
Anniegetyourgun · 04/11/2010 12:37

Good lord, the nursery school mine were at wouldn't even take them until they were potty-trained, let alone take them on four hour outings. To a museum! I'm all for introducing youngsters to "kultcha" at an early age but in family trips, preferably with adults outnumbering children. I don't think ever such a smart under-3 would really appreciate the Science Museum anyway unless someone could pick him up to reach the levers.

earwicga · 04/11/2010 12:55

What do you expect when you agree to a two year being taken to unsuitable trip for 4 hours? YABU and should have thought it through before giving permission.

Maisiethemorningsidecat · 04/11/2010 12:58

There's always one, isn't there....

YANBU. I'd discuss it with the nursery, calmly and rationally, to find out what went wrong with their planning. If nothing went wrong in their opinion, then I'd be making a formal complaint.

LynetteScavo · 04/11/2010 19:13

Why is it an unsuitable trip? Have you some of the things the Science Museum has for little ones is great.It's fab! I'm presuming the nursery is near by.

fel1x · 04/11/2010 19:17

What exactly does it say in his book?

If it says trousers were a bit wet and then dried so didnt change him - could they mean a little damp patch like little boys get a lot anyway, rather than actually wet himself fully??

BornToFolk · 04/11/2010 19:21

It's not unsuitable. We took DS there for his 3rd birthday and it was brilliant. The bit in the basement is specifically for under-5s and they had school parties in..

Earwica, OP sent changes of clothing in - it's not unreasonable to expect the nursery to take them and use them!

Anyway, YANBU. I'd be really annoyed too. Anyone that takes a group of nursery children out without spare clothes is badly prepared at best. And to leave him in his dirty clothes Shock.

Acanthus · 04/11/2010 19:23

Is it only me that's thinking - it's just a bit of wee - then? Grin

onceamai · 04/11/2010 19:27

2.7. What exactly does a 2.7 year old get from a nursery outing to the Science Museum? Can see the point with mum or parents but nursery? What's wrong with the park or leaf kicking at that age? Of course he will have wet his pants - too long an excursion and too far away for a dash back in the event of a mistake.Hmm

Dornan · 04/11/2010 22:05

YANBU. I think in the same circumstances I would be visiting the nursery head in the morning with the following points: the trip does not appear to have been properly planned regarding toileting of the children and therefore safeguarding their dignity and hygiene. Can I please see the risk assessment? Surely spare clothes is standard practice on any trip let alone one of this duration? I would want categoric guaranteee that my child did not eat a snack/meal with soiled clothes (and therefore hands). I would want confirmation of exactly how long my child spent in wet, cold and soiled clothes in NOVEMBER and ask how she would expect that this would effect his learning experience both in terms of the museum trip, his toilet training and his confidence and enthusiasm for future outings. Children learn acceptable standards of behaviour from the adults around them, I would want to know if she would personally walk round a public place in soiled wet clothing or be happy for her own children to do so.

I would say all this calmly and with my best scary smile (the one that implies if your answers aren't good enough let's see who the inspectorate agrees with). Don't let her fob you off, I would view this as a serious breach of care of my child and I would expect an investgation and a written apology.

MsKalo · 04/11/2010 22:09

Complain complain and complain some more until they completely and utterly aplogise and please tell Ofsted too - you trust them with your child and this is basic care and the have let you and your child down badly

dexifehatz · 06/11/2010 23:44

Christ where is your nursery?Plymouth?

ChippingIn · 07/11/2010 00:00

Acanthus - no, you aren't the only one... 'Oh really, never mind, no harm done' seems to cover it really. As for calling Ofstead - FFS. JFC you can see why more people don't go into childcare. It's a bit of wee - not nuclear waste.

Meglet · 07/11/2010 00:07

Yanbu.

My dc's nursery takes spare clothes when they go out. They must be laden like pack horses with spare clothes / nappies / medicines etc!

kickarsequeensbonfireburnup · 07/11/2010 00:14

Complain, Complain, Complain!

Very out of order that it happened in the 1st place, but to say they left his clothes on him when he was back because they had dried????

That would be very uncomfortable and gives very bad message to your ds.

I would contact ofsted, with all the rules in place at nursery's to safeguard children, and all the training staff allegedly undertake I'm amazed that they would think this ok! Shock

leeloo1 · 07/11/2010 00:15

I'd agree that unless it was only a tiny amount of wee he should have been changed. They should have standard packs of what they take with them and do risk assessments on what will be done if these are forgotten/lost.

kickarsequeensbonfireburnup · 07/11/2010 00:16

chippingin pmsl, we never do agree do we! Grin

surfandturf · 07/11/2010 00:31

YANBU - I would be pissed off about that too.

JarethTheGoblinKing · 07/11/2010 00:35

YANBU.

nappyaddict · 07/11/2010 02:41

Was it a lot of wee or just a bit of dribble cos he didn't quite get there in time?

Also to whoever said "My DD attends a pre school where even though they all have to be potty trained before joining her teacher always has spares for accidents" It is actually illegal for a pre school to demand this and even though it doesn't affect your DD it is something I would want to bring up with them I think.

Mummy2Bookie · 07/11/2010 08:39

Please complain to ofsted. Do all you can to prevent this happening again and again.

ChippingIn · 07/11/2010 11:32

kickarsequeen - LOL - No, we seldom agree - can't think why I like you really??

Grin
TiggyD · 07/11/2010 12:59

Taking all the children's own spares would have been too much. They should have had general nursery spares and maybe a few pull-ups just in case.

maxybrown · 07/11/2010 15:44

dexie that was a bit below the belt Hmm

we always took spares all through primary for our kids.

To be honest a proper risk assessment would have involved - hmm, only just training - do they need pull ups maybe - parent what do you think? No, ok well we take spares then......not hard is it! sheesh!

scoobytoo · 07/11/2010 15:46

terrible!!! and unacceptable

josie14 · 07/11/2010 15:52

Yes, you are right to be angry and question their duty of care to you child. If you did that to your son, I think it could be termed as neglect.

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