To want to bash parents who underdress their kids in winter!

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If I see one more toddler in a pram wearing no socks and barely any clothes when it's parents are wrapped up in coats and scarves, my head is going to explode. Mottled skin and purple fingers make my blood boil!

Thanks Cereal, I was thinking about that and ditching the coat... It's a PITA!

I considered nailing my eldest lads hat to his head when he was tiny. It seemed the only way to keep it on. And even coats got unzipped pretty quick. Gloves? Don't make me laugh.

Claire Raynor once said - mothers put cardigans on kids when they feel cold! I liked that.

Kids pull socks, etc off. That you can get so judgey and worked up about it is a bit strange.

DS1 who is nearly 8 just does not seem to feel the cold and whilst me and the other DCs are wrapped up he moans about wearing his coat and happily wanders along in a short sleeved t-shirt. I don't force him to put his coat on. When he gets cold he puts it on without prompting. He gets no more illnesses than the rest of us.

oh get over yourself op

ridiculous

Its better than the babies who have to be taken to hospital becuase they overheated in Bluewater, still bundled up in snowsuits and cosytoes from the brief walk across the car park. Fact.

Guacamole - you sound like me i have 6 month old DD and she always has 3-4 layers she hates it and moans like hell but i want her to be warm.

Op YANBU, i was at the school last week picking up DD and there was a little girl of around 3yrs in a buggy with a skirt on and a vest top yes i VEST TOP, there was no coat or cardigan or blanket under the buggy. The poor girls lips were blue and her hands had gone all red where she was so cold. The mother was there with her own coat, hat and scarf on i just couldnt beleive it bacause it was so cold.

I can understand the parents that have a nightmare with their DCs pulling their clothes off but at least they have them with them. This woman did not and it made me feel for the little girl.

I am going to agree a bit. I understand that some children dont want to wear socks and that shoes arent good for babies etc

But I have seen quite a few very small children and babies with nothing on their feet in the freezing cold. Thier parents are muffled right up because it is sooooo cold and the kids are freezing.

Not all those kids will have sensory issues, a lot of them will not want to wear certain items of clothing and some will try and take them off.

If its very cold small children need to be dressed appropriately. Its not rocket surgery.

If your baby has blue feet, they need to have socks on or a foot muff.

I am not one for hats and scarves and if my older kids kick up about gloves I let them find out how painful cold hands can be.

But little babies need to be kept warm.

I think the uncovered feet thing comes from overworrying about crushing small bones with socks and shoes. Its gone a bit far when you wouldnt step out without your furry boots but your baby's feet are bare to the elements.

Kids tell you when they are cold. Or put another layer on. It's worse for them to be too hot.

My ds is still going around in crocs and no socks. I give up.

My kids would rather wear nothing at all, seriously. I get lots of looks because they are apparently not warm enough in t-shirts, but they are honestly NEVER sick.

argh

Most mums are great mums and do not neglect their children. If their children do not have socks/shoes/hats it will be for a reason. No the children will not all have sensory issues. Maybe their mums just said, OK I'm not going to argue about the coat let's just see if you change your mind" in the age old way. Thus quite frankly getting it sorted early in the winter.

This sort of thing gets right up my nose. Head exploding and blood boiling? Who do you think you are? Bad tempered control freaky or what?

cerealoffender She was really lovely and we had a laugh together about it. It was a very thin cotton summer dress that had been DDs when she was a newborn and it was November.

YABU, sorry.
DS was born in December in England but has always been an overheated baby - I could never put him in a snow suit, he would have boiled. he used to go out in his sleepsuit and a fleece hooded coat - wouldn't countenance bootees/mitts/hats at all.
This hasn't changed much - he is nearly 3 now and still won't wear gloves or warm hats, and even in the depths of winter can only have a light sleepsuit on with a sheet and a blanket.

So as you don't know this child from Adam, you cannot judge how hot/cold it is.

Not older kids. They have to learn what happens if they refuse to wear a coat at some point.

Babies are different. They cant tell you when they are cold. They can only cry and if you think its ok to take a baby out in the snow with no socks on are you bright enough to work that out?

The majority of parents are not abusive or neglectful. Some are a bit self centered, some are inexperienced, some people just find it impossible to empathise with others at all.

I wouldnt want to bash people up but I do feel sorry for kids shivering with blue feet. Who wouldnt?

My son is now 12. He is currently wearing long shorts, t shirt and crocs! He has winter clothes. He has never felt the cold from being tiny. He rarely puts a jumper on.

He has had three days off school ever and is never sick. He is also never too hot.

Mind you, you lot wouldve loved my DMIL.

She thought you were putting a child at death's door if you didnt wrap them in several blankets in the midst of summer.

She also used to instruct me to wrap up my kids when they had a fever to 'bring it out'

In a febrile convulsion presumably.

I have to stifle a middle-aged-lady eye-roll whenever I see the teenagers heading for our local secondary school dressed in next to nothing on very cold days. My favourite were the teenage girls last winter picking their way through 6" of snow & ice in flat little pumps. Expect they headed out of the door with equally middle-aged parents yelling... 'put your bloody wellies on!!!'.

Suffer to be beautiful, eh?

My daughter age 15 is the opposite from my son. She is currently wearing 2 layered tops, a hoodie and a feather down waistcoat- inside!!!!

As they are all Jack wills I would imagine that style is winning over necessity.

I have just remembered, reading this thread, how often I was cold when I was little.

Probably makes me a bit biased. My parents were not abusive at all. just a bit wrapped up in themselves perhaps.

op, you might be a little bit like me.
i went to the hv, and i am quite friendly with this particular one,and she said to ds, 4 mo, 'mummy puts a lot of layers on you, doesn't she?'

as a first time mum, i am a bit overprotective it seems...

also is very easy to judge other parents for not putting more cloths on their dcs when you have an easy one, i put shocks and shoes on him and they stay, my friend gave up..., my dsil gave one of those closed blankets to put in the buggie, just in case i need extra layers.

AArgh- my ds was the one all the old biddys were tutting about last year, as he refused to wear a hat or gloves to walk the dogs, even though it was -12! I took the gloves and hat with me. Eventually he whined about cold hands. I offered him the gloves. He had a hissy fit and refused. Walked on a bit. He moaned about cold hands /ears. offered him hat and gloves- no way. The fourth time he put them on (yay!) but until then I was that unbothered uncaring mum underdressing the poor wee mite. Oh, and I did try the hold-him-down and put-em-on approach, but both hat and gloves were off in 30 seconds flat. And in the mud. It's not always easy...

Mine run around half naked in leggings if I'm lucky, sometimes it's shorts, all year round whilst I walk behind them carrying the coats, or at least that is what I did for 10 years, I've stopped now.
They do not feel the cold unlike me.

I was that mother. Our DD was born in Oman where the temperature seldom drops below 30. I was told off for not putting a coat on DD in December. The day time temperature was around 33.
I do think it has had a knock on effect. Yesterday it was freezing (literally) as I dropped her off at school. she had taken her coat off in the car and forgot to take it in to school with her. She spent her playtimes in a cardigan but said she wasn't cold.

I think it's a question of whether the child is refusing to wear hat/gloves;etc (which the majority of little ones do at times) or whether the parents are not providing them with warm clothes.

In the latter case, I am with the OP-I actually feel annoyed. I saw a little girl in dd2's class (age 5) in the line, waiting to go in. She is a tiny little thing and was actually shaking with cold. Her hands were purple.

We live in a really cold place -it seems to have it's own climate - and the winds are biting.Wrapping up here is essential from October-March!

Most buggies are able to accommodate a cheap cosy-toes/footmuff-type-thing. For babies and toddlers who won't keep their socks on, I think it's worth considering these. I also hate to see babies under-dressed for the weather.