to want to kick the bastard who shot this stag

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Mindless cunt

It's not my job description, no.

But then, have you contacted all the experts in the country and taken the average opinion?

You can't take one expert's opinion and trumpet it as the absolute truth. Look at the trouble that's caused in other fields.

A quick google shows a fairly mixed opinion from Britain's experts.

Well my quick google seemed to confirm that most deer experts condemned this killing, and believe stags should not be killed during rutting season.

From a local North Devon paper:

''David Kenyon, communications manager at the British Deer Society, explained that although older stags need to be culled at a certain age, Emperor appeared to be in good health. Mr Kenyon said: "As they get older their teeth get worn down leaving them undernourished and prone to disease. It's often kinder to have them shot. That said,
Emperor looked fit and well in recent pictures which makes me think he was shot purely as a trophy for someone's wall."

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Why do some people find it so difficult to believe that this stag was killed for fun and for a 'trophy'? Excuses can be made, but it's obivous what's happened here. Even the Countryside Alliance are keeping quiet on this one.

It's just another thing to inspire me to get fit and start sabbing again.

James Marchington making my point: 'The decision to shoot that animal at that time may or may not have been a good one in terms of herd management; I don't suppose we'll ever know, and in any case deer 'experts' could debate that one for weeks.'

The editor of the British Deer Society had this to say: 'But at the age of 12, the Emperor was nearing the end of his fertile days. Deer of that age are prone to TB, broken legs, lungworm or losing teeth, which make it difficult for them to graze. Culling their numbers is not just a kindness, but a necessity, both to keep the red deer population in check and to keep it healthy'

DEFRA state that deer spread TB to cattle herds and that strict herd control is necessary.

Turning a woodland into a deer-free zone has allowed part of Scotland's ancient Caledonian Forest to flourish, according to charity Trees for Life. With no grazing deer, hundreds of thousands of Scots pine seeds have been able to grow on 123 acres
(50 hectares) in Glen Affric, Inverness-shire.
Forres-based Trees for Life has been running the project jointly with Forestry Commission Scotland. Alan Watson Featherstone, Trees for Life executive director, said the project had involved no tree planting and the woodland left to seed and grow.

Do I need to go on?

Well if deer experts coud debate this for weeks, so could we. The point is not that deer culling is wrong. The point is that many deer experts felt this particularly kill was wrong, not culling in general. That speaks volumes. n

The idea that deer and badgers spread TB to cattle is unproven. It could just as well be cattle spreading TB to wildlife.

There was this massive bull elk who used to roam around a place called Estes Park, Colorado. People named him 'Sam' and took tons of photos, a very famous one, if you Google 'Sam the Elk' with him right in someone's window.

Some fucker shot him.

It was so bad, this guy had to be moved to another state he had so many death threats against him.

He went to prison, too.

For years, like a felony, which means his chances of getting another decent job in the US, or leaving it for that matter, are about nill.

It was wrong...no excuses

Mumcentreplus et al

Like I said ...he was ONLY shagging his daughters and grandaughters.

Love this deer experts angle. Deer experts are people that live,work and manage the countryside. The reason they keep quiet is because they get called 'mindless c*ts" by people that know jack s*t.

Not worth the effort.

If you want to know what goes on in the country go and talk to someone that lives and works in it.They are not always'experts" or appointed by some organisation or other. FYI they all really love animals too otherwise whats the point?

They haven't kept quiet justonemore what rubbish.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, justnemorethen, the usual rubbish about people not understanding how the countryside works. Blah, blah, blah.

I've lived and worked in rural areas all of my life, jowl to cheek with hunters and shooters. I know EXACTLY what goes on.

Only a very tiny minority of people in the countryside get their kicks from killing animals.

I don't buy this argument that he should have been culled as he was in-breeding with his genetic off-spring. That is supposed to happen in a herd, the strongest male passes on his herd, a proportion will have his genes on both sides and it will benefit them, a proportion will have the negative effects of inbreeding and die off, again fine. The herd has adapted over many many thousands of years, and nature has "chosen" a system where the strongest does the majority of the breeding until he ages and the younger deer defeat him. The natural system does not kill off the strongest, biggest beasts, it leaves that until they are older and weaker. We should not be interfering in this, and the only reason to do so is the glory of bagging the best trophy.

If we are replacing the natural predator, we should behave like the natural predator. Wolves do not go for the biggest, strongest beast.

Brilliant.
Totally works in the WILD. Not what happens to a small unit in Exmoor. There is a different constraint on this herd namely that there is no other stag to do the business.
Whether or not this became a trophy is between the landowner and the newspapers.
PASTAPLEASE no one gets "kicks' from killing animals expect the mentally ill otherwise all hunters,farmers etc wouldn't bother spending very long (cold unsociable hours)looking after the creatures would they.It's their life to look after, know about and work with animals. If all they actually wanted was "kicks" there are are much easier ways to do it.Only the tiny minority? Is that perhaps because most of the people that live in the country now are relocated from a city.
All the people I know who hunt shoot and work in the countryside have dogs, horses and kids and are in no way into killing things for "kicks". think you confuse us with the London types who think knives and guns are status symbols.
There is bigger gap between urban and rural than any other divide in this country.

Sorry, haven't read all this but cannot understand why anyone would kill such a majestic creature...also I wonder what Johnny Kingdon's take on this is

In an ideal world, I'd like to see us back to using horses and traps to get around and have foxes, badgers, and all manner of animals roaming freely.

Justone, Bullshit, people pay big bucks to kill wild animals and birds, these people are scum, It is brilliant that "blood sports" such as hare coursing and fox hunting have been curtailed or banned, as for the "Glorious 1st" (do I have the correct date ?) WTF is glorious about that.

The people who or have in the past participated in "blood sports" are fucking vermin.

Still it must be nice to rub fox blood across your kids face. Cunts

ROFL that nobody kills anything for kicks and townies don't understand country life. Er, fox hunting? Killing a particularly large stag as a trophy? You do talk rubbish justonemore.