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So what is the point of Health Visitors?

455 replies

wonderstuff · 18/10/2010 14:43

I've seen 3 so far, they all seem very nice, but really not very useful.

Today lovely lady came by, did PND questionnaire, weighed my baby. Talked about weaning - advised that some babies (especially boys) are ready for weaning at 4 months, to be aware of him taking interest in us eating Hmm couldn't give any advise about BLW as no reseach has been done and she doesn't want to get sued - fair enough, but seemed strange that on the weaning age she was willing to contradict research evidence. She also warned of 'missing weaning window at 6 months' I didn't ask what would happen - will I end up bfeeding forever, Little Britain style? Told me breastfeeding was tiring (there was me thinking it was the lack of sleep that was knackering but presumbably if I bottle fed I'd have much more energy?) She stayed for half an hour.

Really what is the point - could money be better spend on Midwifery or Social care?

OP posts:
janelikesjam · 05/04/2012 17:23

"health visitor" what a waste of time! Mine gave incorrect advice i.e. weaning at 4 months (when WHO says 6 months). Could not help me with basic breastfeeding advice. Useless.

scottishmummy · 05/04/2012 17:58

hv have an important primary health care role,and they are pilloried and undervalued on mn. they support the mum and new baby, and in fact a hv is usually a mw too. their role spans across health and social as they liase closely with both health and local authority colleagues

and no I'm not a hv, I just think they are and under valued,huge case loads and little respected

bumperella · 05/04/2012 19:25

Mine is rubbish. BUT a lot of freinds have HV who they say are fantastic; like anything else you're going to get ones who are great, ones who are dreadful, ones who are brilliant in some situations and terrible in others, and ones who are pretty mediocre.

lalaland3008 · 05/04/2012 20:53

They're useful if you're completely thick and don't know what you're doing, or if there are child protection issues.

Other than that, useless.

DawnOfTheDee · 05/04/2012 20:57

Mine is brilliant. We were told (incorrectly) by a midwife that our DD had tested positive for cf and gave little further info. Our hv contacted all the necessary people and sorted out the whole thing quickly....if she hadn't we would've had a whole 2 weeks thinking our DD had cf.

She's also great with advice and points us in the right direction when needed. Fantastic liaison type role she's doing and it's very much needed and appreciated.

studentHV1 · 28/04/2015 17:26

I am a student health visitor and find some of the comments on here very undermining and ignorant! I have been working with several health visitors who have much experience and knowledge who just want the best for children and their Mums. And for the record I have never seen a health visitor sitting around drinking cups of tea!

Silvercatowner · 28/04/2015 17:51

I've got lots of experience and knowledge and I honestly want the best for children and their mums. Can I be paid a salary, pretty please?

Shakirasma · 28/04/2015 18:15

Hi student HV

Perhaps you could take note of what the mums on here think and need, rather than critisizing them and calling them ignorant. Their experiences (note the word experience) are valid.

LaLyra · 28/04/2015 18:24

StudentHV1 Undermining and ignorant? Have you actually read the thread? I hope not because if you have then you've rather proved a point about some HV's.

Have a think about how "ignorant" comments and being "undermined" has made you feel.... Now imagine it with a new baby who hasn't read any books, sleep deprivation, post birth pain and general other stresses on top of that... That's what some Mums have been left feeling by HVs.

Instead of posting such rude comments perhaps you'd be better reading the thread properly, seeing what really doesn't help people and using it to make yourself a better HV.

studentHV1 · 28/04/2015 21:18

Apologies for causing offence & my comments were as you say rude, I just felt I wanted to defend the health visitors I've worked with but. I will use the comments of others to hopefully help me to become a good health visitor x

ChocolateTeacup · 28/04/2015 21:20

Well also learn to improve your attention to detail, you replied to a thread last active on Thu 05-Apr-2012

BlacknWhitePanda · 28/04/2015 21:28

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Message withdrawn at poster's request.

BlacknWhitePanda · 28/04/2015 21:29

Shoot didn't realise this was a zombie thread.. Oops sorry!

CadieAgain · 28/04/2015 21:29

ChocolateTeacup Grin

Knottyknitter · 28/04/2015 22:39

I think a lot of the problems here stem from the different hats a HV has to wear with different families.

Most (and a huge majority of mn readers I imagine) need a signpost to baby clinic and local groups and a cursory PND check. Takes minutes and yes, the information can be found elsewhere these days, but remember the system is as it has been for years. Maybe it should be given to HCA/nursery nurses under supervision of one HV? I don't know. Different areas do it in very different ways, but this is what gets squeezed when the cuts bite.

Then there are the few families who need more support, or yes, referrals to ss or other agencies. They take up a disproportionate amount of HV time and energy, but I don't think anyone here is arguing that this work is not the most important part of the role.

But, it is entirely normal to be anxious, shattered and yes a bit pfb about your own newborn. Any question you have about that little bundle you became 100% responsible for less than a fortnight ago (when you first meet your HV) is a huge thing, and unchecked can worsen baby blues. Add into that the large percentage of mn mums who had a professonal role pre mat leave, and it's pretty clear to see a mismatch between professional HV seeing overly fretting mc mum who only needs the shallow end of the service and pfb mum who feels she's flailing around in unknown territory, with anxieties made worse by broken appointments/lateness without warning, inability to control with whom her appointment is, or even when someone might be coming round. For that person to then minimise her concerns and be unable (for time constraints, lack of concern or lack of update) to enter into discussion about current best practice can make things worse. Of course these perfectionist mums are prime targets for PND...

I'm in two roles in this. Im a gp, so see a percentage of these mums when they can't get what they need from the HV service, so come to the surgery instead, and get involved with the more complicated end of the caseload too; and a new mum myself with a few of these clashes to report first hand.

I choose to see it as a mismatch between what I do and where I live that my HV asked which brand of milk I was feeding dd at 8 weeks, (I had my boob out when she called me from the waiting room, but it was a busy clinic, and we've all said stupid things on busy days); although I did get a bit disgruntled to be told I shouldn't be visiting a friend who had had a CS at roughly the same time as my forceps delivery as we shouldn't be supporting each other as needed to concentrate on ourselves. As I'm not at work so a little out of the loop, what with the newborn and all, I wanted info on the new meningitis jab too, but all I got was "do let us know what you find out, a lot of people have been asking us that"

As soon as dd can sit up on the bathroom scales I'll weigh her at home, free up a space in clinic and just keep the HV number in the front of her red book, ready to use if I need it. For the majority of us, he HV service is a backstop, and if I'm lucky enough to stay in the group that is less prioritised, I'm very happy about that.

With my work hat on, I wish they were easier to get hold of though, but not based in individual practices any more, so can be tricky to catch up.

TheRealAmandaClarke · 28/04/2015 22:45

I am a hv and threads like this make me want to quit.
Its so great to have helped people. I know I have.
Its so awful to read such rude comments and such damning of an entire profession.Actually. It alos makes me want to leave MN
Done.

TheRealAmandaClarke · 28/04/2015 22:48

Many peope have very littleidea about what I do.
I hvae very little idea about what some people do. But I don't wish to start a thread about how pointless they are.
I know lots of people have had a difficult time with some Hvs, but it's really not fair to tar an entire group as a result.
Anyway. Last post. will not bother you again.

Writerwannabe83 · 28/04/2015 23:10

I have worked with a group of 5 Health Visitors for two years and found them all to be fantastic. We worked in quite a deprived area and the HV's were under huge pressures in terms of helping mothers with PND and dealing with families with a whole range of issues including drugs and alcohol. They also had many, many children on their caseloads who were under child protection for sexual abuse, physical abuse, emotional abuse and neglect. We also had a few cases of SIDS and the HV's were amazing in supporting those families. Until I had that job I had absolutely no idea how some families live, what difficulties some women have in coping with a newborn and also what horrific environments and circumstances some children are living in.

People think HV's are all about weighing babies and talking about weaning which is a very ignorant point of view. As a PP has said, those who are lucky enough not to need the 'real and behind the scenes' HV service should count themselves lucky and think about all the very needy families and babies that the HV's have to work really hard for in order to protect them and keep them safe.

When I had my DS the first 6 weeks were very rough and my HV was amazing. I'm phoned her up and asked her to come round and as soon as I opened my front door I collapsed in a tearful heap and just flung my arms around her. She stayed with me for well over an hour, just listening to me, letting me cry and reassuring me and it really, really helped. DS is now 13m and I still like seeing my HV when I pop into clinic.

SilverBirch2015 · 29/04/2015 00:11

My HV was brilliant with my very over-bearing Mum who was causing me a lot of grief with her "helpful" advice. HV told her that she thought I was doing a great job with my DS, and that it was much better to leave young Mums to find out what's best for their own babies. She then sent her off to make a cup of tea, gave me a hug and asked how soon I could get my Mum to go back home.
20 odd years later, I am still grateful for her kind words and intervention. Bless her.

lupo5 · 29/04/2015 00:33

My little angel will be 5 mnths next week.The very first HV who came to see me after giving birth was amazing.Supportive and very kind,calm and brilliant.
She came 3 times with midwife because of my HBP.
But...when I went to a clinic, i saw different hv ..what a disaster.After baby was checked by midwife HV called us in (my DH was with me).She barely said hallo almost as if I am bothering her ,she said barely few words and was very sarcastic when I asked her about caledula products.
I was put off so much that since then I still didn't go,just can't make myself to go and face that disinterested face again with her cup in her hand.
Not all HV are like that but thats my experience...

Patsyandeddie · 29/04/2015 00:51

Went to live off the grid for five years, no contact with them thank god! Kids now a lawyer and pro basketball player without any help from them!

Writerwannabe83 · 29/04/2015 08:10

I was unaware that HV's claimed they had the power to influence career choices.....

PeppermintCrayon · 29/04/2015 08:22

I was unaware that HVs were such sensitive snowflakes. To the posters above: why aren't you welcoming the chance to learn how your profession is seen by some people so you can reflectively incorporate that into your practice?

I'm a trainee therapist. I appreciate posts about therapy because a) an insult to my profession isn't an insult to me personally and b) if you don't know what people think, you can't act on it.

lostindubai · 29/04/2015 08:34

Another one here in support of hvs - mine was much more helpful to me in recovering from a difficult birth than my midwife was. Also pointed me in the right direction where I feel my gp should have! I will always be grateful to her.

Nolim · 29/04/2015 08:38

Sorry to comment on a zombie thread but i think that hvs provide a great service to the community.