to be disappointed in the apathy of the county

[southeastastralbeing]

and the quickness at which the people seem to roll over and accept all these horribe cuts and looming redundancies - it's so accepting and lambs to the slaughtery (yes i know that's not a word)

i find it very depressing and wish i lived in france, where at least they're prepared to get on their arses and be heard

:(

2shoes....you say in your first post that things don't affect your family so you wouldn't know what to protest about. I'm sure that you have no idea about local cuts in Bristol or those that affect Somalian families, you probably can't imagine the plight of farmers....because most people specialise in their own lives and situations and whilst some people are more informed about others none know everything about everyone. And non disabled, like disabled is a broad church and so don't assume you know everything about every SN situation either.

Riven....they can't cut what you don't have re respite.

will be interesting to see what happens with respite and DP's
at the moment getting any increase in respite is impossible.I don't get DP's but should imagine that is the same.
oh then there is the LEA who will cut costs any way they can even if it means your child is in danger and will not be able to learn.
then transport, wonder how many parents have had that cut.
I am praying we will still get out grant for our bathroom.....but who knows

PosieComeHereMyPreciousParker Sat 16-Oct-10 17:40:56
Riven....they can't cut what you don't have re respite.

????

Riven barely gets respite as it is.

oh so you do know then
strange

think you need to step away 2shoes - you are being overly defensive and hijacking the thread.

oh great so an ignorant poster attacks me, and I am told to go.
ffs
does it hurt to much to read how vulnerable people are going to suffer.

Actually I have already suffered from the first cuts made. So I do know how they will affect me. Think you need to step away and calm down for your own sake and that of the discussion.

2shoes.....You can't accuse someone of being ignorant because their not interested informed about your situation. You've also told me to fuck off. IF a poster without disability issues in their family posted on a thread about cuts to families with SN, that they weren't going to protest because they didn't know how it would affect their family I can imagine the fury with which you would post.

Posters like you really fuck me off.

i am off to rl now anyway, so enjoyyour thread

posie read back dear. you will see why you annoyed me.
playing the innocent victim is a bit silly dear.

I don't think the awareness is there and unless some issues are in the front of the newstands people just don't know about them. Everyone has stuff to worry about and so they don't search for their next cause, we all spent last week thinking about miners when there are children in our own country without enough food, shelter or heating.

She's not making a point at all, just ranting at someone and trying to make them feel guilty for commenting.

I don't understand what's happened!

You both seem to have made the same point: ie. people aren't protesting ... yet ... because they haven't experienced the effects yet?
Have to admit, I've only skim-read.

Frankly, I think people should be incendiary. There are going to be very few people who aren't going to be hit by this. I, personally, think a lot of this is ideological, and it's going to destroy our public sector, in a manner that is going to make it pretty much impossible to rebuild.
I think people just don't realise yet how much this is going to effect them, because we have had precious little discussion about how much the majority of us draw on the public goods.

Seriously, a cut of 79% in higher education has been leaked. The effects of that are going to be just enormous. But I think people have not yet really realised just how that is going to touch them, and are still mired in the debate about who goes to university, grades inflation, and stuff like that. That is all going to be wibbling in the face of the changes that cut makes.

Jobs will be lost and for the people concerned that is dreadful. The question is, were many of those jobs needed in the first place. PCT's were an additional layer of bureacracy for a start, did I really need to be offered the bio something health project scanning over the next 10 years, etc, etc. The CRB is in principle a good idea but hang on if only 2% of paedophiles have been caught is it really such a good idea - don't get me on the HV service which in my expperience is a job creation scheme albeit not a new one for lazy ex nurses who want to fill out forms instead of nurse - ooops actually get their hands dirty, etc., etc.

i didn't start this thread because i was worried about cb being cut! it's all the other cuts and jobs going - also hate all this infighting that the government is always causing between those who feel others are still benefitting when they are not! (in my job, for example, where they are asking for voluntary redundancies, there is lots of nasty back biting going on and those who feel their job is more worthy of the other and on this website)

and i am definitely ordering the shock doctrine!

PCTS weren't an additional layer of bureaucracy they were actually an amalgamation of community trusts and health authorities. Many non clinical staff were made redundant in that reorganisation.

The dissolution of PCTs will affect front line clinical staff as well as operational management/commissioning staff. GPS will just use the forthcoming reorganisation to recruit their own management - they won't want to do commissioning/finance themselves. Its just an excuse to get rid of people's terms and conditions from what I can see. Heaven knows where community services will end up - probably in acute trusts in a lot of cases which will mean their services will always lose out.

The Labour Party are responsible for this, they should never have allowed the deficit to get so out of hand or allow the public sector to become so bloated. The cuts are going to have to be savage in order to get the problem under control and as bad as it might be there is no alternative such is the dire state of the public finances.

see i work for a council and to me the staffing is the same. there are no jobs that aren't needed where i work. not at all.

Likewise southeast. Again, it will be SEN, and SN kids who will suffer as they have already told us that there is now a moratorium on employing new TAs. If any of us leave, we will not be replaced. No matter how many kids are left without support in class. This is just the first step. Next there will be redundancies or salary cuts at the very least.