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To suggest me and DH have nothing more to do with one another's families?

26 replies

MrsLucasNorth · 03/10/2010 09:13

We were drinking our coffee this morning when DH noticed the porch door open so popped out to see who it was - MIL apparently in a bit of a tizzy, so he asked her what was wrong. She promptly launched into a tirade about the fact that I have borrowed my Dad's car at the moment, am putting petrol in it, haven't a clue about money and have only got it cos I'm too lazy to walk round the corner to work & DD's school.

I obviously stuck my head round the door and said "you can speak to me if you like, instead of having a pop at me behind my back to dh"

And got the reply "Well, you're just crap really"!!!

My housework skills are appalling, I'm a spendthrift who has no clue about money, and I'm a lazy cow who apparently told her when me and DH got married that 'at least I wouldn't have to worry if I got fat now, cos I've already got my man' (which is total bullshit - although I may have said something along those lines tongue in cheek to wind her up if she was being a pita at the time).

I told her if those were issues in our marriage they were between me and DH and absolutely none of her business (she's insistent that they are Hmm), and that since she was making all these comments based on assumption I was not going to discuss with her.

She's also had an even more vicious slanging match with my mum earlier this year, which my dad witnessed and left him ill for several days (angina).

I have his car at the mo because he was taken ill recently and until he has the results of several neurological tests, he doesn't want to drive. I only use it at the weekend to save DH going out of his way to drop me off when I visit my parents.

I don't like housework, but whilst my house may be untidy (I have a 6yo ffs!) and a bit dusty, it is clean where it matters - kitchens, bathrooms, loos, bedding, carpets etc.

I've had issues with money in the past - largely stemming from going back to college as a mature student in my mid-twenties, and also the fact that I've been pretty unlucky whenever redundancies have come round in previous jobs. However, since going back to work at the end of last year I've made a huge effort with this - have paid off over £1000 of debt, been in the black with current account all year and am putting the child benefit in a savings account every month.

I didn't tell her any of this cos frankly it's none of her f-ing business (or yours - but I know someone will come back and say does she have reason to be such an arse!).

Since DH has a similarly fraught relationship with my olds (they just rub each other up the wrong way for the most part) I'm thinking it's time we said that when things like Christmas come round we will celebrate on our own (me dh and dd), and take dd round to see our respective families individually.

It's a shame as I get on fine with FIL, not fussed either way about older bil and his Mrs, but can see younger one and his partner and kids on my own.

I really can't think of any other solution at the moment.

Does anyone else do this? Does it work and has it had much of an effect on your dc's?

Sorry for the rant - just needed to get it all out of my system.

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LadyintheRadiator · 03/10/2010 09:16

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activate · 03/10/2010 09:17

I would say your MIL was not welcome in your home until a proper apology is received.

I would say that you are right to consider becoming a family unit and visiting them as you wish alone or together

I would also say that you should adopt a passively pleasant, you're a stranger to me really so I'm just going to smile and nod and be polite tone with her when you do meet.

kreecherlivesupstairs · 03/10/2010 09:17

What a lovely woman she sounds. I can't offer you any constructive advice, my MIL died about 5 years ago. I couldn't bear the interfering sanctimonious coniving bitch and didn't accompany DH when he went to see his parents. when we moved abroad it wasn't a problem and DH used to take DD to the UK for a couple of nights two or three times a year.

diddl · 03/10/2010 09:17

If my MIL spoke to me like that, my husband wouldn´t want any more contact with her either tbh.

And if she thought so little of me, she wouldn´t be wanting to see my children either, would she?

Anenome · 03/10/2010 09:19

So you're a crap housekeeper and have money worries....you're still nbu because she has NO say in your life whatsoever..no way would I allow my MIL to say crap about me in my own home!

I had to distnce from my MIL as she was always prying and getting in on arguments....it is better now.

bluecheesefiend · 03/10/2010 09:20

what diddl said.
MIL sounds just awful.

laloony · 03/10/2010 09:20

We have agred to just not talk about our families to each other

its the only way to avoid arguments

It works ok as we neevr see his family (they live 10 minutes away) unless they need DH to do something for them, in which case they never ring the house, they just ring his moby.

Same with my family, we never hear from them unless they want DH to do some thing for them.

its a win win tbh.

TigerFeet · 03/10/2010 09:21

does your dh stand up for you? what a cow

no experience myself but if my il's spoke to me like that, they would not be welcome at my house whilst i was there

laloony · 03/10/2010 09:22

doesnt affect ds as none of them show even the slightest bit of interest in him any way...even though he is pil only GC.

Chil1234 · 03/10/2010 09:23

I don't think it's unreasonable to want to cut off contact but I do think it can ultimately prove unwise. My ex-husband's dislike of my family and their obvious dislike of him was one of many reasons why the relationship broke down in the end. If you can find a way to stay civil with all the in-laws whilst still acknowledging that, for good or evil, they are family then I think that would be the mature solution.

MrsLucasNorth · 03/10/2010 09:26

It's not me then Grin

I've taken this on and off for 14 years. Dh has stood up for me on 1 or 2 occasions but generally his thinking is that it's between us and he won't get involved - his younger bro has told her where to get of on my and DD's behalf one one occasion so I do have some support from 'within' the family.

DH isn't close with his younger brother (although he loves his niece and nephew to bits). I can always go with DD to visit them on my own.

His older bro and his wife have grown up kids and live too far away but although there's nothing 'wrong' with them we don't really have anything in common. Will miss FIL though.

The other difficulty is that we have a big family wedding on my side coming up that we are supposed to be going to with my parents - DH has already threatened not to come once after he and my mum had a run in.

Perhaps I should suggest the separate visits thing after that...

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MrsLucasNorth · 03/10/2010 09:29

Chil - I have tried to do that, and would rather do that, but there's only so much I can tolerate.

It's the assumptions she makes and the total lack of respect that gets up my nose, especially now DD is old enough to figure out what's going on.

I have walked out on DH before over MIL sticking her nose in and his not standing up for me.

Sometimes I think it would be easier if we did go our separate ways tbh, but when we're firing on all cylinders we have a great time and I wouldn't want the alternative for DD's sake.

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scallopsrgreat · 03/10/2010 09:34

The issue isn't really MIL is it (although she is a PITA by the sounds of it)? The issue is your DH isn't supporting you when she attacks you. That and you are the one expected to be the housekeeper. Does your DH have that view too?

MuddlePuddle86 · 03/10/2010 09:36

I don't get on with my bil or his wife. To the extent where we don't do anything family related-or one of us will hold back if the other is going. Works fine for us. We make sure we see our pils often, just when they're not around. It isn't worth the hassle in the long run. If being around your mil is only going to generate her speaking more bullshit behind your back, perhaps your better off not adding fuel to the fire (a fire that will eventually die out I hasten to add). Good luck :)

MrsLucasNorth · 03/10/2010 09:37

I think he does to a degree scallops - although is he is quite good around the house - my pet hate is laundry and he does most of it! I think he resents it though.

The weird thing is - I was made redundant 2 and abit years ago and took 18 months off to be with dd before she started school. I honestly thought it would break us as money has always been a big issue for DH (MIL is obsessed). Instead we were closer during most of that time than we had been for ages.

Since I've been back at work I feel he's actually lost respect for me and expects more of me than when I was at home.

Either I'm looking back through rose tinted glasses or there are some control issues involved I think.

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IUsedToBeFab · 03/10/2010 09:40

You should come first before his mother.

MrsLucasNorth · 03/10/2010 09:40

Am going to be off now as DH and DD will be back in shortly and I don't really fancy him seeing this!

Thanks for your input - any more gratefully received - will check back in later.

Grin
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scallopsrgreat · 03/10/2010 09:42

I think you are right about the control issues, MLN.

TryLikingClarity · 03/10/2010 09:57

Is MIL ever nice to you or DC? Or is it all shouting and butting in?

If she doesn't add anything to your happiness or childcare then IMO I'd keep out of her way. Let DH have a relationship with her, don't be seen to be playing him off against his mum.

Just know in yourself that you don't get on the bad ways she thinks you do. Hold your head up high.

She does sound like a cow, though. YANBU.

MrsLucasNorth · 03/10/2010 10:58

TLC that's why I've tried to put up with it for so long. My mum thinks i'm a doormat - I call it taking the moral high ground!

She can be ok with DD. I don't doubt for one minute that she loves her, but has a very Victorian attitude whereas i'm a bit of a hippy as far as child rearing is concerned!

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notsohotchic · 03/10/2010 12:41

YANBU!!

You know where you stand with each other. Your dh should support you. You deserve an apology, but it doesn't sound like you'll get one. Liking Activate's idea about adopting a 'passively pleasant, you're a stranger to me' attitude, as that would surely madden this woman more than anything!
I had what I thought was a wonderful, open relationship with ex mil and fil - even supportive after we split up. However, as soon as I found a new man the shit hit the fan... Turns out mil (particularly) has thought me selfish, lazy, a rubbish parent etc etc all along. Shocking what depths of hatred can lurk beneath the veneer.
I would stay away and expect hubby to fully support your decision. Maybe see if you can maintain an air of dignity and the 'pleasant' attitude to prevent things from seeming so bad. (If so you're a better woman than I am)

Chil1234 · 03/10/2010 12:49

I think, if your relationship is less than rock-solid (which it sounds like tbh) then mothers have a tendency to see it as 'the woman that's making my son miserable'. Your mother is calling you a doormat & she's not looking kindly on a man that makes you miserable. Cuts both ways. Present a united contented front even if it kills you and families may still not like you but 'at least she/he makes him/her happy'.

MrsLucasNorth · 03/10/2010 12:49

I've been the better woman for 14 years, tbh I'd really like to tell her to fuck right off and never see her again, but I like to try and be the bigger person Hmm

Your ex mil sounds like a horror too - I must admit that although I do things totally differently to MIL she has never really criticized my parenting abilities and has said on several occassions that I'm a a 'lovely mum'.

I genuinely think she is not entirely right in the head, which is one of the reasons I've tolerated her behaviour for so long.

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MrsLucasNorth · 03/10/2010 12:52

Chil - you have a very valid point. DH is great in a lot of ways but we are very different people now to who we were when we met which doesn't make like easy.

His parents are 10 years younger than mine but married and had kids very young and have very consevative, right wing, small minded (IMHO) values. My parents are 10 years older but did a lot of living before settling down and having me so the outlooks we bothhave a result of the way we were brought up are totally different, as are our interests.

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notsohotchic · 04/10/2010 10:36

Yes your mils behaviour does sound odd by any standards. I believe that my ex-mil is not right in the head either (old people eh?!). Her hubby and daughter said as much before we had the poisonous emails and fall out. It makes things very awkward because no-one on her 'side' will confront her. With my lot its a shame 'cos the kids were close with their gp's and now they can't see them. I had to make the decision/ draw the line when I heard from my youngest that certain unpleasant things had been said by mil to them about me. I was particularly fond of my fil as he was such a stable (hmm), good male role model for us all, I kind of adopted him as the father figure I never had. But he adores his wife, would do anything for her including protect her from her own reality.
At least it sounds like your mil isn't trying to undermine you as a parent and you can allow contact with your offspring to continue.