in thinking that the term 'vintage' usually simply means 'secondhand'?

[MadameBelle]

Just been reading a magazine where there are pictures of girls snapped on the streets and it says what they are wearing. So much of it is 'vintage'. What makes vintage any different from secondhand? When I picked up a pair of trousers in Oxfam last week, they have no label, are they 'vintage'? Sounds awfully pretentious to me.

So AIBU in thinking that people who spout vintage all the time are a bit, well, up themselves?

YANBU - I have a friend who is most definitely 'up herself' in terms of fashion and ALWAYS says "oh it's vintage" when she really means she bought it in a charity shop.

Definite pretentious bollocks.

Early 90s is less than 10 years old... no? She should've said "oh, it's an old one of my auntie's from the 90s" really.

Given the fact that collections seem to change on a monthly basis rather than summer/winter like they did, erm, "in my day" it's hardly a surprise that young people (oh god, did I say that?) think that anything over a couple of years ago is vintage.

I agree with tethersend that is should have connotations of quality too. I mean a high quality bottle of wine that has been laid down over years to mature is referred to as vintage, whereas, if you discover a bottle of Blue Nun from the 1980s in your cellar it's probably best to dispose of it.

I am also sick of vintage shops that are 85% full of nasty old polyester dresses with BO ingrained into them from the 1970s.

DP still reminds me of the seemingly clean dress I threw on without washing it first (I know, I know, last minute change, the only time I've done it) for a weekend break to Berlin (obviously pre DC). Half way through the flight, he asked me what that smell was- "It smells of meat". It became The Meat Dress. Gah. The smell was unholy, like nothing a live human being could produce.

The Meat Dress was lovely, but it's somewhere in Berlin now. Probably in a vintage shop

ROFL @ this thread. I go to a poncetastic vintage sale a few times a year, always really look forward to it, always come back with stuff that makes DH tut loudly, chipped bowls, dented furniture, shabby shite really.

I always feel like one of those silly Sloanes visiting Harry Enfield's I Saw You Coming shop.

In my defence, although its just old stuff bought from auctions, the lovely ladies who run the sale have invariably prettied it up with some darling Farrow and Ball paint or an artfully placed chichi French ribbon, and its still pretty cheap.

PMSL at those last two posts.

Meat dress... hehehehehehehehehe. I think something similar has happened to me.

Harry Enfield's "I saw you coming" sketch is genius. It's up there with Armstrong and Miller's WWII Pilots

vintage is fancy term for 2nd hand,ups the price to call it vintage as opposed to used

I thought vintage meant over 25 years old? Retro I understand to mean modern/new but in the style of an era. The term vintage is def bandied about too freely though and I agree that most vintage shops are 99% full of overpriced ugly shit . I love vintage fashion, by the way, but only if it's pre-1980