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to have taken dd's party bag away for the contents to be rationed out?

49 replies

dilemma456 · 27/09/2010 13:29

It had 10 mini packs of haribo and two lollies in it and nothing else. DD says I'm the worst mummy ever for not letting her have them when SHE wants (i.e all at once!)

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TrillianAstra · 27/09/2010 14:44

Bruffin is right.

If you take a bunch of kids to a party, give them back to their parents and tell some of the parents that they had lots of sweeties, then the parents who think thieir chlid had sweets will report hyperactivity and 'sugar-rush' type behaviour, regardless of whether the children actually had lots of sweets or not.

Parties + parents expecting a sugar rush = reporting hyperactive behaviour. Actual sugar hsa nothing to do with it.

Rockbird · 27/09/2010 14:45

This is why I refuse to ever do party bags :)

TrillianAstra · 27/09/2010 14:48

In answer to the OP (rather than people insisting that they can see a phenomenon that has never been scientifically recorded) that sounds like far too much for a party bag.

TiggyD · 27/09/2010 14:50

I think you should explain to the child that sweets aren't good for you. You should then remove all the sweets and replace them with carrots and celery before giving the bag back. Your child will love you for thinking about their health so much.

booyhoo · 27/09/2010 14:51

never scientifically recorded is not proof that it doesn't happen.

mittz · 27/09/2010 14:55

Sorry but whatever the studies say, sugar has a profound effect on some DC's. I really really wish it didn't. Just like a drop in blood sugar has symptoms, eating the wrong sugars and often the additives that go hand in hand with them and getting a sugar 'rush' has 'symptoms.

Adults are advised to avoid refined sugars for health; physical and mental health reasons and children are sensitive to these issues also.

booyhoo · 27/09/2010 14:58

agree mittz, if lack of sugar has an effect on mood then excesses of sugar has an effect.

Giddyup · 27/09/2010 14:59

How old is your DD? pre school I rationed, now at nearly 8 I leave DS to get on with it. I think with that many bags he would probably ration himself though, and I would expect him to offer them around.

HecateQueenOfWitches · 27/09/2010 15:00

actually, there is rather a lot of research into diet and autism that suggests that sugar has an effect on them.

"Among practitioners familiar with autism, there is strong consensus that modifying the diet and the gastrointestinal system sets the stage for the success of other treatments, and therefore should come first.

Parents have found that, by closely regulating their child's diet, they can observe improvement, and that when dietary constraints are relaxed, the child often worsens. The recognition in recent years of a gut-immune-system-brain axis of pathology further supports this priority.
Food additives can be a particular problem for autistic subjects. Although many of the worst offenders have been banned, others remain in the food supply. Two organizations, critical of irresponsible food additives, that publish useful information in this area are the Center for Science in the Public Interest and the Feingold Association.
Artificial coloring agents can have carcinogenic or mutagenic effects. Simple sugars and artificial sweeteners have adverse behavioral effects in some children. Lab tests (urine organic acids ) reveal abnormal carbohydrate chemistry in most autistic children. Baker urges the parent to test the sugar-avoidance diet by tapering off slowly over three weeks (to avoid withdrawal symptoms), then reintroducing sugar for five days, watching the results. Whether or not the child has a strong adverse reaction to sugar reintroduction, Baker advises sugar in the diet be decreased because it is food for many potentially harmful intestinal dwellers.

For ASD children unusually food sensitive, the Feingold Diet is likely to be highly beneficial) by systematically excluding additives, colorings, salicylates, and preservatives. This and other more restrictive diets for integrative management of ADHD (attention deficit hyperactivity disorder) were previously reviewed. Baker has published a list of additives least likely to affect ASD subjects."

Food affecting behaviour is being very well researched.

I know what I see in my children.

I don't really care for being told that I don't see what I see.

I know not me personally singled out Grin but being part of the group saying that they see it and being told it's not real.

It's real.

Whitethorn · 27/09/2010 15:00

I eat most of the stuff myself, she has usually stuffed her face at the party with all sorts of crap. My daughter just doesnt really react to sugar, but maybe thats her grandmother giving her ice cream/sweets/chocolate/juice on a regular basis. She actually called over at 7pm on sat with a packet of Jelly Tots!! 2pm I can live with but 7pm - come on.

TrillianAstra · 27/09/2010 15:00

But they have looked booyhoo - and never seen it. The factor that influenced whether the parents said 'my child is being hyperactive' was whether they thought they had had sugar, not whether they actually had.

Mittz I'll agree that some people have unusual reactions to foods (the same way some people are diabetic or allergic to apples, in that they would get the symptoms even if they didn't know that they had had the food in question), but there is no universal rule of sugar = hyperactivity.

Whitethorn · 27/09/2010 15:02

Sorry I just read TiggyD's post and actually fell off my chair I was laughing so much. I went to a party recently where the Mother handed party bags with home made brocolli bites, needless to say, that bag went straight into the bin.

LadyBiscuit · 27/09/2010 15:03

I'm not sure I believe there is a connection (and I'd rather my DS have sugar than sweeteners) but 10 mini packs is just a lot of sweets. I would be a meany like you :o

TrillianAstra · 27/09/2010 15:05

Broccoli bites? Were you tempted to try them? Grin

booyhoo · 27/09/2010 15:09

trillian i think, like alot of things, it affects children in varying degrees and that in general it isn't a notable effect. but i know when ds has had them. i can tell, and it is not me expecting him to have had anything. it isn't like i have left him at a party and suspect he has had them. like the other evening we were at my mums. ds sometimes watches tv in anotherroom so he can watch cartoons. after a while he came in the room with us and he was being a bit over excited, dancing about the room. we were all getting really frustrated with him. eventually i said "what's gotten into you, you're like a jelly bean jumping around here" it was only when mum went in later to turn the tv off she found an empty doritos packet on his chair. she had left them there the night before with only a few out of it and forgotten to take it out with her. we all knew by his behaviour that there was something up. you can't tell me i imagined that.

Tippychoocks · 27/09/2010 15:10

The sugar/kids at party test is a Jo Frost favourite so I take agin it on principle Grin
Are you sure OP you didn't pick up a "spare" bag? Was there no balloon or cake-in-a-napkin? These are the bigger issues.

Bingtata · 27/09/2010 15:12

I was just going to say YABU, but 10 bags? Seriously? They would be taken out and DD would be allowed 1.

TheSmallClanger · 27/09/2010 15:20

10 bags sounds like a mistake. Did she win some in the party games?

I would ration and probably nick some myself. I don't get people who treat sugar as the devil and throw perfectly edible Haribos in the bin. If it was any other food, it would be a Sinful Waste.

TrillianAstra · 27/09/2010 15:21

Is she old enough to count and remember 10 bags?

If not you could ration as '1 for me, 1 for you'...

grapesandmoregrapes · 27/09/2010 15:22

eating anything sugary raises your blood sugar level and gives you more energy, and then afterwards you crash!

It may not make children 'hyperactive' but you cannot deny it gives them more enery!!

booyhoo · 27/09/2010 15:27

i don't treat sugar as the devil. i treat it for what it is, sugar that my child doesn't need and doesn't benefit from and if you read my previous posts you will see it actually does him more harm to eat it than not. teaching my child the difference between healthy and unhealthy levels of sugar really isn't that hard a concept to 'get' is it?

Mummy2Bookie · 27/09/2010 15:29

I'd bin them- so much crap in kids sweets that do not have to be declared by sweet companies.

thumbwitch · 27/09/2010 15:31

Does rather depend on how old your DD is - DS got a party bag a few months ago that was full of crappy sweets - but he is only 2 so I had no compunction in rationing it out to him.

Sugar studies - hmm. I'd love to know who was behind the funding for most of them...

AbsofCroissant · 27/09/2010 15:32

Take half or more and refer to it as "tax". Throws in a valuable life lesson as well.

Unless she's planning on becoming a Tory Peer

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