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To think that my employer is mean in not supplying money for a meal

46 replies

tevion · 26/09/2010 21:26

I work in a disabled peoples home and me anohter staff member were asked to take 5 of them out on a day trip to the seaside the owner/manager allocated the clients some money each to get them a meal etc.
The trip was a 120 miles there and back making it 240 all round.
We both worked from 8 in the morning until 10pm that day.
We had to buy all of our own food and drink.
AIBU to think that on this occasion she should have provided for her staff on such a long day out I ended up out of pocket and the job is just minimum wage.

OP posts:
said · 26/09/2010 21:50

Yes, put a claim in. Even if optional, your employer should still cover out of pocket expenses

StealthPolarBear · 26/09/2010 21:50

No OP YANBU unless you took the job on the understanding that you'd be expected to do this.
Yes, I might have 5 cups of coffee, but I wouldn't buy them all from a cafe. I need lunch but it doesn't have to be fish & chips in a restaurant. What if you literally couldn't have afforded it?
These were carried out as part of your duties and should have been paid for IMO - I'd go so far as to post in employment issues.
OP - did you say you were on minimum wage, or was that someone else talking about an example?

tevion · 26/09/2010 21:51

I am on minimum wage yes

OP posts:
tevion · 26/09/2010 21:53

I also work in another home as well which is a much better rate of pay and if you take them out you get your meals and drinks paid for admission to places is paid you don,t have to part with a penny.

OP posts:
tevion · 26/09/2010 21:54

and we also get all our meals in the home as well

OP posts:
BonniePrinceBilly · 26/09/2010 21:56

Yes it was her choice to pay for a meal when she had to sit down with the clients who were eating. Hmm I'm sure the cafe would have been happy for her to eat her own food in there....

not likely. As if that job on min wage isn't hard enough? FFS.

gingernutlover · 26/09/2010 21:56

sounds like you should be asking for more hours at the nicer job Wink

next time agree terms before you agree to do anything like this and if you arent happy dont do it - she'll soon get the message if everyone sticks together, there must be some middle ground surely?

EricNorthmansmistress · 26/09/2010 22:02

If you were with the clients over mealtimes, so working, you should have had meals paid for. If you had 'breaks' where you could have gone off and eaten your own packed lunch elsewhere, than not necessarily.

StealthPolarBear · 26/09/2010 22:08

EN - I agree with that, is that law or just good practice and moral sense?

StealthPolarBear · 26/09/2010 22:09

OP did your boss ask for your receipt by any chance Hmm

mumeeee · 26/09/2010 23:36

YANBU. I work with young adults with learning disabilities in supported living. I get all meals provided when I'm on shift and that includes money for buying food if we take one or all of them out for the day.

newwave · 26/09/2010 23:42

YANBU, did you drive and does your contract include you having to provide driving services.

Next time insist on finishing at your normal time unless food and drink is provided (unless you need the additional money)

I hope you got time + half for the overtime.

OTTMummA · 26/09/2010 23:45

By law your supposed to have a break of a reasonable and previously agreed time stated in your contract.
The break is supposed to be taken in the middle of each shift, and you should be allowed to leave the premises or situation of where you work.
Your also supposed to be supplied with toilets and clean water to drink.
She should of given you money for lunch/tea as you were not given a legaly recognizable break.

Try and claim the expenses back, if not tell her you won't be taking anyone on any other day trips until she covers the costs, and the costs of future ones.

OTTMummA · 26/09/2010 23:46
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nymphadora · 27/09/2010 05:54

These sorts of jobs usually have something in the contract regarding breaks as usually you can't go off site during them.

ccpccp · 27/09/2010 08:45

If you were paid for the hours you worked, why do you think you should be provided with food and drink?

You arent doing them a favour, you are working a job!

Now had you been paid only 8 hours, THEN you might have had cause to whinge.

tallwivglasses · 27/09/2010 09:25

Some people's attitudes on here astound me.
You're doing an incredibly important, difficult and responsible job on a minimum wage. Your do a 16 hour shift without a break and you're expected to fork out the equivalent of 3-4 hours worth of pay on food and drink?

Okay, you could have taken a flask which would last five minutes and two meals worth of food (which a cafe might have let you eat on the premises), but presumably you were pushing wheelchairs/holding hands and didn't want to be lugging heavy bags around.

You're being exploited, the clients are being exploited and your boss is getting richer by the day.

GeekOfTheWeek · 27/09/2010 09:28

Her job is in the home, presumably shift work.

Taking residents on a 14 hour day out where she had no recognisable breaks and was out of pocket is a favour imo.

GeekOfTheWeek · 27/09/2010 09:30

What tallwivglasses said.

YANBU

NordicPrincess · 27/09/2010 09:52

they absolutly should have provided you with money for food. go and ask for it back as it was part of work it wasnt your leisure time

ccpccp · 27/09/2010 10:20

What does your contract say? If it says food and drink are provided, make a claim. If it doesnt, suck it up!

I suspect the food you get when you are at the home is a perk, not an entitlement.

The other home sounds much better, but probably charges its residents more.

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