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to be shocked that some parents at my son's school feel their Human Rights have been infringed...

33 replies

PacificDogwood · 25/09/2010 19:27

...because the school has/had a policy of not allowing children to bring electronic toys and mobile phones in to school?
Human Rights?? FFS, people just don't know they are born. The school had to rescind their policy.

This is a state primary school in a largish village/small town, 'nice' catchment area. The kids get Golden Time every Friday when they can chose an activity ie outdoor play/cinema room/free play. For free play they are encouraged to bring a favourite toy to share and play with their friends with.

IMO quite rightly the school is worried about expensive hand-held games consoles ie Nintendo DSs and PSPs getting broken or lost and the school somehow being liable, so in the Newletter to all parents at the beginning of the schoolyear they stated the above.

I am in total and utter support of this ban. Cost of broken stuff aside, surely the children should play with their mates rather than individually stare at their screen? Plenty of time for that at home to allow mum some MNing time Wink.

And why oh why can people not just suck it up when their kid's school is looking for some support for a policy which you may or may not agree with. They are not allowed to play outside when it is raining (in case they slip Hmm) which I think is ridiculous but I have certainly not challenged them on that or voiced any doubts in front of my sons.
Human Rights violation

What do you think? AIBU? How about sending those that objected on these grounds to a, say, Nigerian prison, for a tour or summat, to adjust their expectations...

Oh, I feel better now, thanks for reading and gimme you thoughts, I can take it Grin

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Skyrg · 25/09/2010 19:28

YANBU, that is not a human right. Idiots.
Also, not having DSs and PSPs is fairer for the kids who can't afford them.

MrsJamin · 25/09/2010 19:29

YAdefinitelyNBU

NormaStanleyFletcher · 25/09/2010 19:29

YANBU

Bloody rediculous (them not you)

booyhoo · 25/09/2010 19:32

yadnbu!!!

they really need to arrange hobbies for themselves if this is what they are resorting to doing to pass the time.

PacificDogwood · 25/09/2010 19:32

So now I have to be the baddie and tell the boys they cannot take their DSs... I make a rather good scary baddie Grin, but have lost the option to hide behind school policy Wink

And v good point about being unfair on the kids who do not have consoles to bring.

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MangoTango · 25/09/2010 19:33

Totally ridiculous. Why did the school change their policy rather than just insist no electronic toys? Won't that just encourage the parents to think that all they have to do is moan and the school will change their mind? The school is being unreasonable to have a cinema room during golden time. Isn't that just letting them watch telly? They can do that at home to allow MNing. Wink

prozacfairy · 25/09/2010 19:40

YANBU Shock at anyone having a moan about this rule!

Can't believe how lucky these DC are to have the chance to just play with their mates all afternoon Envy

What happens when these precious DC start a new job at say 25 and don't like the employers' rules that Facebooking during work hours is not allowed? Are mummy and daddy going to go down there and deal with the boss? Hmm

pinkbasket · 25/09/2010 19:41

YANBU.

I have a problem with a 5 year old not being allowed to take his teddy in as and when he wants too but I also see their point.

KnittingisbetterthanTherapy · 25/09/2010 19:43

I weep for the future Sad!

Schools just don't feel able to stand up to stupid bloody parents anymore and it's just not good for these spoilt little princes/princesses children Angry.

YANBU.

KnittingisbetterthanTherapy · 25/09/2010 19:44

And these same parents would also be the ones to come and scream at us when these bloody toys got stolen/broken/lost.

I despair!

Appletrees · 25/09/2010 19:45

this has got to be a joke

silly head

PinkieMinx · 25/09/2010 19:46

YANBU - this is why I hate 'human rights laws' in general- they are for basic, deserved rights - right to life, not to be tortured, etc.
Not for spoiled, mollycoddled children to have mobiles in schools or prsioners to have fluffy pillows. They are absued so much and allowed to be!! Angry

gingerkirsty · 25/09/2010 19:47

Human Rights??????????

Show them this from the Liberty website:

What rights does the Human Rights Act protect?

The right to life ? protects your life, by law. The state is required to investigate suspicious deaths and deaths in custody.

The prohibition of torture and inhuman treatment ? you should never be tortured or treated in an inhuman or degrading way, no matter what the situation.

Protection against slavery and forced labour ? you should not be treated like a slave or subjected to forced labour.

The right to liberty and freedom ? you have the right to be free and the state can only imprison you with very good reason ? for example, if you are convicted of a crime.

The right to a fair trial and no punishment without law - you are innocent until proven guilty. If accused of a crime, you have the right to hear the evidence against you, in a court of law.

Respect for privacy and family life and the right to marry ? protects against unnecessary surveillance or intrusion into your life. You have the right to marry and raise a family.

Freedom of thought, religion and belief ? you can believe what you like and practise your religion or beliefs.

Free speech and peaceful protest ? you have a right to speak freely and join with others peacefully, to express your views.

No discrimination ? everyone?s rights are equal. You should not be treated unfairly ? because, for example, of your gender, race, sexuality, religion or age.

Protection of property, the right to an education and the right to free elections ? protects against state interference with your possessions; means that no child can be denied an education and that elections must be free and fair.

I'd love to know under which clause they feel their human rights are being infringed!

Idiots.

A1980 · 25/09/2010 19:49

This is why some children often have little respect for authority. When parents behave like that and challenge every rule made by the schools (for the children's own good) what sort of message does that give the children? It teaches them that authority isn't to be respected.

It's a bloody joke. My mother would never have allowed me to take an expensive toy to school in the first place, for the very reason I might lose or break it.

I also can't imagine which human right they think is being breached.

PinkieMinx · 25/09/2010 19:55

Bet they would argue interference with their possessions or freedoms - utter twunts IMO - I believe they are hindering their children's development as they will get a big shock when they leave school. They may have to work in the rain Shock or not use a mobile all day Shock Shock

hystericalmum · 25/09/2010 19:58

idiots. FFS.

veritythebrave · 25/09/2010 19:58

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cupcakesandbunting · 25/09/2010 20:00

Tut.

-rolls eyes, folds arms-

Maisiethemorningsidecat · 25/09/2010 20:01

YADNBU

What on earth was the Head thinking of when he/she rescinded the policy though? Hmm

pointydog · 25/09/2010 20:03

The school should ban golden time. That would be an end to it.

MoralDefective · 25/09/2010 20:05

YANBU...

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Serendippy · 25/09/2010 20:46

YANBU. This is exactly why schools don't do as much fun stuff anymore, because people always take the piss. Sad.

PacificDogwood · 25/09/2010 20:48

Oh, gosh, strong reactions... and so far all along the lines of my thinking. Sorry I had to go and deal with the madness that is bedtime here Grin.

So who are these people??

DS2 in particular is not that bothered about his DSi, likes it on long car journeys etc, but I see him v rarely playing with it at home. He wants to take his because his New Best Friend 'has a note from his parents' that allows him to take his. I take it the note is to make sure nobody tries to make the school liable if something does go awry.

Great post, gingerkristy, I just had more of a gut feeling, but you put some substance behind it, thanks.

I am seriously considering to write to the head or at least e-mail and express my disgust astonishment and ask why they did turnaround. I could link to this thread... Wink.

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PacificDogwood · 25/09/2010 20:50

Oh, and to lose Golden Time I think would be a shame. They do more projecty type things in that time too. 'Cinema room' is when they watch something that ties in with their most recent topic ie earthquakes, pirates, honesty or whatever.

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