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To fight DD's English accent.

102 replies

NicknameTaken · 22/09/2010 13:53

I'm Irish, DD (2.10) is growing up in England. She won't sound like me, I accept that. But ho' wa'uh for "hot water"? I'm going to have to start beating her till she says it properly, it's clearly the only possible response.

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GetOrfMoiLand · 22/09/2010 14:10

I grew up in devon, took pains not to develop a wurzel gummidge accent.

I moved to Gloucester, my 14 year old dd has a strong Gloucester accent (think Bristolian but with an even more farmery twang).

Makes me cringe inside. The girl sounds like my name.

Easywriter · 22/09/2010 14:11

Beating is definitely the way forward, dropped t's are not to be tolerated.

YANBUGrin

EasilyConfusedIndith · 22/09/2010 14:11

I think a taser may be a little drastic kreecher Grin

Shirley don't worry, I seriously doubt any of us are being all that serious, I am certainly being light-hearted. I have an accent (and my father still tries to correct me!) and I know my children will have a different one.

ShirleyKnot · 22/09/2010 14:13

My boys sounded like they came form Norfolk for a while, all "I loike to roid moi boike" I think it's a developmental stage.

timperly · 22/09/2010 14:16

I'm Scottish, DH is English (and decidedly southern). DS1 spent the first 5 years of his life in Glasgow, then 2.5 in Edinburgh, then 2.5 in the south east, and now he lives in the north east. He still has a quite strong Glasgow accent (as do I). DS2 spent his first year in the south east and will grow up in the north east (because I have moved around quite enough). DH is dreading the inevitable accent.

I do have to regularly correct DH on his pronunciation. He may be southern, but I know fine well that he didn't grow up dropping 't's and 'h's (and that he can speak perfectly reasonably other than when he's trying to annoy me). He seems to think that exaggerating an accent he doesn't really have is entirely analogous to my using perfectly standard Scottish words and phrases. I do try to point out that dropping 't's, 'd's and 'ings' (as my mother used to nag me) is normal in my accent too; I just don't do it.

QueenofDreams · 22/09/2010 14:21

Dropping ts and hs isn't an accent thing as such though. It's just poor diction. It drives me nuts. DP speaks correctly, but the rest of his family are a nightmare. Apart from 5yo mini-SIL who corrects MIL frequently. 'It's not Bluewa'uh, Mummy, it's Bluewater' Grin

Agree about 'bokkle' as well. Can I add 'miggle' for middle as per brother's ex?

witlesssarah · 22/09/2010 14:21

Portsmouth here. DS says 'gunnoo' for 'going to' (I'm not gunnoo do that) and of course wa'hr for water. We couldn't help laghing the other day when playing I spy and he said he saw something begining with sh - turned out to be a train - shrain!

pinkbasket · 22/09/2010 14:25

YABU.

My children are southerners, I am a northerner. My child pulls me up for how I speak HmmAngry.

corlan · 22/09/2010 14:29

Oh Nickname taken, you remind me of my poor Muvver. She's a posh Scot and hates my bleedin' London accent.
Her expression of complete disdain every time I drop an 'h' is worse than any beating!

MackerelOfFact · 22/09/2010 14:32

She's still only tiny, I would very much imagine she'll grow out of it. TBH I think we experiment with accents all through childhood, I know when I was at schoool I talked like a cockney because people thought it was cool, now I try and speak properly because it makes me sound cleverer! And for some reason nearly all the 4-5 year old girls I know speak in high-pitched American accents during imaginative play. Very odd.

ShirleyKnot · 22/09/2010 14:32

I don't agree QOD. The way I speak (dropped T's and all) is my accent not down to poor diction at all. Why should it be that if you have a London accent that it's fine to say that you are speaking lazily?

My mum uses the same word for Year, Ear and Here. She does this because that is part of the Welsh accent; not because she is lazily dropping letters or not enunciating properly.

StayFrosty · 22/09/2010 14:32

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BunnyLebowski · 22/09/2010 14:37

Nickname I feel your pain.

I'm Irish, DP is a scouser and we're in Leeds.

DD is almost 2 and has this grand wee english accent. Thankfully it's not distinguishably Yorkshuh but she's just started going to playgroup so I guess that will change.

One of the many reasons I'm working on DP to agree to move back to Ireland. I want my wee girl to be Irish with an Irish accent Sad Grin.

NicknameTaken · 22/09/2010 14:38

Ah Bunny, but then you have all the different accents in Ireland to contend with. Would not want DD to have Dublin 4 accent either!

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TitsalinaBumSquash · 22/09/2010 14:38

witlesssarah explain please i don't 'get' the Portsmouth thing, i have seen on MN a few times threads about Portsmouth accent, i live in Chichester so quite close buy and i speak terribly posh, like the Queen.
I'm not sure what a Portsmouth accent is! Smile

Appletrees · 22/09/2010 14:40

does the cattle prod stop "R nooooy" for I know?

BunnyLebowski · 22/09/2010 14:41

No D4 accents. They drive me up the bloody wall! I'm from Northern Ireland and a mate went to Trinity and came back for xmas of her first year^ taking like some posh dub.

I'd happily settle for dd having a wee Tyrone accent like mine Smile

Appletrees · 22/09/2010 14:41

r noy is orfuw inni

gggllggllsplutter

sparkle12mar08 · 22/09/2010 14:41

But an accent is surely the sound of a word including all its constituent letters, whereas dropped letters are poor diction? I'm a northener too so have no claim to received pronunciation etc, and still sound positively schizophrenic when it comes to pronouncing barth/bath, parth/path, carstle/castle, buzz/bus etc having lived in the south for nearly 15 years. But the one thing I do not do is drop letters or use glottal stops.

ProfYaffle · 22/09/2010 14:43

Oh, I hate bokkle (even worse, bok-bok for a baby's bottle. Even typing it makes me cringe) and kekkle. I'm guessing they're north west accents? I love my accent but that's a step too far in my book.

fedupofnamechanging · 22/09/2010 14:43

I have a London accent, but my mother would never have allowed me as a child to drop 't's or 'h's etc.
My children have Welsh accents. I would never complain about it because I chose to live here and have my babies in Wales (and the accent is lovely. Might take a different view if it was northern though Wink). I think, OP that it is not U to expect your child to pronounce words correctly though.

FluffyDonkey · 22/09/2010 14:44

I know it's a light-hearted thread but...

My mum was from the south, we grew up in the Midlands. She fought constantly against our brummie accent...but then we got bullied at school for "speaking posh". Sad

Habbibu · 22/09/2010 14:46

Glottal stop or glottal plosive isn't a dropped letter per se, sparkle, it's another way of articulating "t" - in that there is stuff that happens in the vocal chords and mouth at that point in the word. So it's not wrong, but many people don't like it, and in general it's not seen as a prestige way of pronouncing "t".

HowsTheSerenity · 22/09/2010 14:51

You have problems? I am an Australian nanny working for an American/German family living in London.
The DC's spread the accents around. Every 2nd word is a different accent Grin

Habbibu · 22/09/2010 14:53

"the sound of a word including all its constituent letters", also, no, not really. I imagine a lot of Scots would claim you "drop your rs"!