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To feel the system has completely failed me?

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Skyrg · 16/09/2010 19:17

I have recently graduated from uni, looking for a job. After a few months of being reluctant to claim benefits because I didn't feel I needed them as much as some other people, it became more difficult financially, no luck with jobs. We also wanted to claim council tax benefit and were advised this is easier if you claim jobseekers (I have to claim money in order not to have to pay them other money, where's the logic?) so I went to claim jobseekers.

Living with boyfriend, he's going back into education so although it was my claim he had to prove income (or lack of) and sign to say he wasn't going to claim jobseekers. Fine. Told it would take about 10-14 days to process, but they wanted boyfriend's university information.

About a week later I had my first work interview thing with them to prove I was still looking for a job. Still could not get university info, which was a bit of a pain, but they said bring it in as soon as possible. Again, fine.
Their job systems are crap, no jobs available that are suitable for me.

Sometime last week, we took in boyfriend's university information. I thought they'd already have started dealing with the claim, and just use the letter to confirm the information. Was relieved, thinking it was all now sorted.

Had another interview (they're every 2 weeks) today with the job centre. Still looking for a job. Anyway, I asked when the claim would be processed because I hadn't heard anything. The man checked the system. Claim has not been processed because we haven't filled in a form. Huh? The man in the job centre had never even heard of this form! Turns out it's to exempt my boyfriend from the claim. We filled that out WEEKS ago. Phoned up to check (for some reason the interviewers can't tell you anything, they can't contact the people who process claims) and they told me to fill in the form and take it in. They had not bothered to inform me about this (by phone or letter), so I could complete and hand in the form. Am I supposed to psychically know what they need? I filled in and returned everything I was given. Surely if the claim is delayed, they should phone me and tell me why. I was getting desperate on the phone, and the woman did NOT help by, when asked 'how long will it take after I hand in the form?' replying 'how long is a piece of string?' Helpful, when I'm stressed. Anyway, apparently on handing in the form it will then take between 2 and 4 weeks to process the claim. Argh! Are we supposed to eat air?

Plus this impacts on the council tax benefit claim, because they're waiting for the job centre to give them evidence of my claim, so I've had to phone to ask them to delay it (they cancel it after a certain amount of time). I'm worried this will affect the claim.. we can't pay the council tax!

Also (yes, there's more...) my boyfriend's new 15 hour a week job affects both claims, so we have fill in forms to report his income every 2 weeks. I understand they need to check our income against the claim, but seriously, 15 hours a week is NOT going to support both of us and pay rent and bills. Plus even the job centre guy said the forms were ridiculous!
I could cry...

Anyway, rant over.

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LynetteScavo · 16/09/2010 19:23

"Their job systems are crap, no jobs available that are suitable for me."

In what way...are you over qualified? Where else have you been looking for jobs?

Yes, the system is obviously far from perfect, which is why you should put your claim in ASAP. Live and learn.

juneybean · 16/09/2010 19:29

It is a stressful process, I had been claiming jobseekers when I lost my job in July, and I sometimes felt like I was the lowest of the low, they speak to you like crap sometimes.

Skyrg · 16/09/2010 19:32

LynetteScavo -
Mainly in that they're mostly part time with very odd hours (would be happy with part time but I'd need two part time jobs to pay rent and bills, and none of the jobs available are suitable for that) and/or require experience or transport. Seriously, even the job centre employees have told me that they have very few jobs on their system. I have been looking in the paper, in shop windows regularly and on several internet sites. Don't get me wrong, I'm not expecting them to find me a job, it was just another minor issue with the job centre...

I did have other reasons for not claiming earlier but thought the post was long enough already! Mainly massive changes in circumstances which are a bit long to go into.

Plus my issue is that not only have they massively delayed it, they didn't tell me why. And when even the employees are saying that the system is dreadful, you feel a bit let down..

Juneybean - I've had some very nice interviewers! Guy today thanked me for not shouting at him, he said I was very reasonable and most people blame them and rip their heads off. You can see that by all the security!

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eaglewings · 16/09/2010 19:32

having just been through similar with a member of my family skyrg I agree it can be frustrating to the point of sending you mad.

There is little common sense in some places and when you phone to ask why you hadn't been told or given back pay etc they always pass the buck.

Is not the people who wok there, but the system, you need a degree to work it all out, not great news for those with SNs

thats my rant over for today

Hope it works out soon and that you find the right job

HRHPrincessReality · 16/09/2010 19:33

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foreverastudent · 16/09/2010 19:41

The system's shite, yes. A cynic would say they design it like that to put off all but the desperate.

You will find that the system is not set up to deal with a couple with one in education or one in p/time work. You either have to both claim benefits or earn enough to pay your way. It's called the benefits trap and millions are in it.

Depends on his pay but it is highly likely that your bf will have to give up his job for either of you to be entitled to means-tested benefits.

Ctax aren't supposed to pursue you if you have a claim pending. This could take months. I was kept waiting for 4 months when I graduated and claimed. If you have no money for basics you are entitled to crisis loans until they have processed your claim. You will have to go and queue every two weeks to get the payments, though.

Skyrg · 16/09/2010 19:42

HRH - I don't have any expectations, I am looking for a full-time job (really needs to be between 30-40 hours to pay rent etc). That's it. Trouble is I have no experience.

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Skyrg · 16/09/2010 19:45

foreverastudent - boyfriend will be in education and part-time work, I'm looking for full-time, so we should be ok once I can get a job. We're not quite desperate enough for a crisis loan yet, but we may be if they keep us waiting.

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HRHPrincessReality · 16/09/2010 19:52

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