to wonder about the head injury story line in Coronation Street?

[EverythingsRosie]

What I'd like to know is can subdural hematomas really happen as easily as all that???

Thinking back to the episode where the little boy rolls off the sofa and knocks his head on the coffee table. It seemed like such a slight knock. The boy didn't cry or whinge about it at all.

And he would be perfectly capable of telling someone if his head hurt at all after the event. It's not as if he's a baby.

So just how realistic is this? My toddler is constantly falling against things and I wonder how worried I should be?

I wondered the same thing! I would like to think the storyline is not totally realistic.

If a kid cries when they bang their head it is a good sign. If a kid bangs their head hard and doesn't cry but goes all quiet thats when you have to worry. Also it is a soap using a real live child actor they are not going to make him proper whack his head off a table just so their storyline is more realistic!

I think it's alot to do with where on your head you hit too, as what with!
I wouldn't worry tbh, my nephew recently went head first through a glass door and onto concrete on the other side and he's completely fine with a tiny graze, resilient little buggers aren't they!

I think your main problem is expecting Coronation Street to be realistic. None of the babies on the street are born in hospital (think Maria's was the best: in a remote shack on the shore of a lake, delivered by its father's killer), nobody calls the police when things are stolen/crimes are committed, and the Becky and Steve got all the way to the adoption tribunal without anyone saying Hang on a minute, they've both spent time in prison....

Yeah, that's another question I'd like to ask.

Would you really be considered for adoption if you have spent time in prison?

I don't know the story is as I don't watch CS but I do know serious head injuries can be caused by relatively "minor" incidents.

A friend (early 20's) fell in the street (having been drinking) and later died as a result and another friend's brother (in his 40's) tripped over the kerb and hit his head whilst sober and also died.

Quite scary.

This is terrifying!

Nancydrew- that's so awful, I so sorry.

I actually think Coronation Street writers have been quite irresponsible in the way they have portrayed this storyline. To put both kids in care after one of them had an accident and no previous history is very alarming.

My concern is that a parent could be too scared to seek hopsital treatment after a bang on the head in case they fear it gets escalated like it did on Corrie and their kids get taken away! My DS1 has been to casualty at least twice after bangs on heads but I'd be very nervous if he did it again! (I'd still take him to A&E though no matter what).

I just think its over dramatizing things in an unnecessarily alarmist way that could have harmful repercussions, or terrify innocent parents at the very least. I found it really distressing to watch.

Acute subdural haematoma is often caused by a big injury, but it's not uncommon for it to follow a relatively minor incident. Symptoms are headache, drowsiness and loss of consciousness - not necessarily a dranatic onset. I don't think the storyline about it happening after a small fall is inaccurate.

Where there us no known acident, the most likely cause is non-accidental injury. I don't know how realistic was the portrayal of the social services actions, but they are bound to be involved, as, sadly, parents are often the perpetrators of child abuse.

Corrie is always bad about the impact if a criminal record on subsequent life of a character. There's no way Gary Windass would have been able to join the Army that quickly after a custodial sentence.

hi there.. i agree..
CS have not thought about this storyline at all..
A very good friend of mine has been in a simular position only last! Her DD (my god-daughter) aged 2 but very big for 2yrs had a very very big number 2 and it tore her. her mum has taken her into hospital with the sample and docs said yes it tore her bum and said it'll heal and sent her home. 12hours later social services came and ripped her out of her mums arms! On suspicion of child abuse!!!!
My friend wouls never put her DD in that position and this would be impossible. Her LO was given a medical which then SS called my friend and said DD hasnt been tampered with so she'd be home the next day! unfortunately SS then changed their minds at 5pm the next day (the day my GDaughter was due home)!!!
They said the medical was inconclusive as she has a sore perenium (yet her hymenis still intact and have put her bum tear down to medical reasons!! She has had ongoing problems with her bowels since birth! She has to stay in SS care for another 4wks untill the next medical!! Its discusting how they treat the people yet drug addicts/alcoholics get to keep their chidren and when are taken from these people SS try everything possible to get them BACK with their parents!!!
I have lost all faith in SS but there is absolutely NOTHING i can do :(
How are parents supposed to trust the NHS and SS??????
I was terrified taking my 3yo 2 docs last week as her down below was sore!!! I did though and i know she needed to see someone but dont half make you paraniod and scared! Turns out My LO just has thrush (PHEWWW)

I feel for my friend and the long agonising 4wk wait till the next medical away from her precious DD:(
Surely they cant do this over a lil sore bottom??????

As far as the injuries i have no idea but my 3 LOs have never banged their heads hard and have neverbeen worried.. With all head injuries take them straight to A & E if worried! Esp if complaining of headaches or dizzyness/drowsyness..
Try not to worry tho

If you know how they've done it, it's a plausible accident, and the child isn't in and out frequently, then you are still likely to be questioned (there's a fairly set script for this, and it has to be done as a safeguard).

I think the problem for the Alahans was that they could not account for the injury, nor could anyone else in whose care Aadi had been left. One cause if this kind if injury is shaking, and Aadi's only other injuries were bruises to his shoulders.

i thought soaps were rubbish and completely unrealistic until my most mortifying incident.

i was at dinner with my mum and dad and we were talking about soaps.i said something along the lines of "there is so many people die falling down the stairs in soapps, like really who dies falling down the stairs?" i got a look from both of my parents and they said "Ringo" Ringo was my dads best friend who died a few years before i was born. my foot was so far in my mouth it was coming out my bum. i don't watch soaps after that because i just get scared about things happening.

my mums brother died after falling over in the street he was 20 months old she was just a baby and doesn't remember him.

SmilerJane- that's horrific. Your poor friend and her poor daughter being taken off her! Has she tried her MP? Taking 4 weeks for a repeat medical in these circumstances is just too long. How awful.

Thanks nestafiesta
I'm just currently writing a statement about everything i know about the hospital visits etc but i am worried it just wont make any difference.. She in court thurs so fingers crossed they open ther eyes and realise their mistake before more damage is done!
4weeks is the required time between medicals but i am unsure they even have a clue what they are talking about!
onimolap THats not always the case as there is reasons and proof about why my friend DD has the sore and she even took in the stool that caused it but that doesnt matter..

I took my DD aged 3 to docs due to a sore 'mary' and the 1st question i was asked in front of my 8yo DS and my DD 'is there any chance that someone could of tampered with her ie molested her!!!!!!!!' I left feeling very sad as i am an overprotective mother and leave my DC with NOBODY apart from school and DP!! Nothing like that would of happed to my DD and upset me as i was a victim at aged 8 :(
Oh gosh i crying now!
Best go freshen up before i go off to get my angels from school in half hr!
NHS SS POLICE etc i have lost all faith in!
:(
I have no idea when i'll see my GodDaughter again :(

SmilerJane, that's so sad, I'd like it if you updated us on how your friend is doing after Thursday if that's OK with you? Her poor daughter is without her Mum for four weeks- imagine what that must do to her just because of red tape. Shocking. And scary.

smilerjane SS often go for the easy target,my son had ear ache and I was questioned to find out if I had hit him (never had and never did).No action was taken but it was very scary,meanwhile a drug and alcohol addict was given home support you or I could never afford to help her cope and keep the kids with her,it actually gasve her more time for her addictions,kids now in care.

Thanks Everyone..
i am very teary today as my friend has asked me to write a statement for her about Jodie and i just have no idea where to start :(

She has 2 older boys with autism and behavioural problems ans had struggled to cope for years asking SS for help.... How did the help??? They took the boys off her and put them into care and has been fighting to get them back since (still no luck)
They gave her a choicehand over boys for temporary care (3mths)then she'd get them back but no 1yr and 7mths later she is still fighting... Now they have taken jodie (in my opinion the SS have tried everything to take her off her mum) and failed as was no reason to sa she was a bad mum... Now a hospital visit n all this!!!

I had her boys for weekends and they were hard work but i got through to help my friend get restbite.My son was her eldest's best mate at school and she has been my good friend for 6yrs..
i have now gotta write a statement on what they boys werelike and jodie but i have no idea where to start../
i'm very vey sad as i am terrified i am going to let them all down :(

Lily liz
my DD's dad is an addict (finished when he started on heroin) and he has a babiy with his Gf whos also an addict! SS are still trying to get niela back with her mum dispite being arrested drunk off her face on drugs incoherant blood down her arm at 11.30pm with the baby in a graveyard!!!
SS DISCUST ME!!
Sorry bout long post but needed to vent before i and up in tears...
And i still dont knoww where to start with the statement :'(

Thanks everyone for your support..
My emotions dont help as i am sleep deprived with a 3mth old newborn (prem 6 wks early) and 2 DC.. age 3 and 8
STRESSSSSS AARRRGGGHHHH

Crying immediately after a blow to the head is no guarantee. I was very reassured when dd cried after falling off the climbing frame. Two hours later she was unconscious and the consultant was pursing his lips and looking very concerned.

Re the child protection thing, imo it depends entirely on whom you see at the hospital. I have taken dd in for a fair few accidents which could well have been dodgy and my explanation has been accepted without any hesitation.

But the one time I did get questioned about sexual abuse (and my child detained) was when I took dd in for chronic ankle pains which had been going on for months. The consultant's take on the situation was that a child deluded enough to persist in saying she was in pain when the Doctor told her she couldn't be, must have suffered some major trauma in her life. (Dd has since been diagnosed with a completely bona fide physical condition and is disabled.)

Clearly this had sod all to do with the likelihood of any particular A&E trip to be caused by child abuse, and everything to do with that particular consultant feeling frustrated at being unable to reach a diagnosis.

Hiya niestafiesta

Got good new and bad..
My 6 page statement did help my friend and she has beenin court.. The medical has been moved forward so JOJOs medical is in 2wks and if that comes back as ok then she'll be going home ... Im shocked as they have accused her mum of taking her 'own' stool sample and saying its JoJos!! OMG what are they like..
The are now saying JoJO showing signs of abuse as she has started toplay with her 'private areas' and her boobies!! OMG Honestly..I have trouble stopping my DD playing with herself and health visitors say its normal curious behaviour so how is it normal for other children butoh JoJo been abused! How pathetic! One doc at the medical said No abuse found.. The 2nd doc said she is sore but no evidence of abuse noted but doesnt mean she hasnt been! so SS are going just on that.. How can they do this with NO evidence at all.. So nowwaiting on the next medical. But otherwise god news..
Bad news is that her boys are being retained a while longer while they do what they supposed to have done 1yr 8mths ago with courses to help my friend understand autism and adhd!! However SS are trying to reduce contact to ONCE a month!!! How they can dothisis beyond me! I thought it was supposed to be whats best for the children????? How can seeing their mum once a month bein in their bes interest!
I am shocked at SS!!!

Again i repeat.. I have lost all faith in NHS POLICE And SS!!

It's only a programme! Totally unbelievable waste of time, just like Eastenders which is worse.

Smiler,

thank you for the update. I really feel for you and your friend. She is very lucky to have a friend like you and it sounds as if your statement made a real difference. Have you tried writing to your MP? they are duty bound to reply and it usually scares authorities when there is a MP looking into the matter. you should be able to google "who is my MP (and type your postcode)". I sometimes think SS get their priorities all wrong and its scary when they are meant to be there to protect people. My heart goes out to your friend. As a mother, I can't imagine how hard it must be.

Thanks for your lovely kind words nesta
Felling abit deflated about the situation to be honest..
Since she went to court she Thanked me fo thelovely and true statement which she sid tht helped an i havent heard from her since :-(
i am just waiting for her to let me know whats happening..
I jave 3 kids a dog (not my choice addition) a terrapin and 2 cats Never forgetting a high maintenance (emotionally) man atm so i am so busy..

SmilerJane- no problem and no need to apologise. Either your friend doesn't realise the gravity of the situation, or she's putting a brave face on it, or she really does think its all too much hassle (!) How any mother could though, is beyond me. All the mothers I know would fight tooth and nail for their kids.

Whatever is going on, you are a steadfast friend and I hope she looks back one day and sees this. The children are lucky to have you taking such an interest in their lives.