To think if the goverment want to cut benefits they should also stop cutting jobs?

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No brainer really isn't it? MORE public sector jobs are needed;not less.

It is those on low wages who do most of the work and contribute all. It is sad that the govt. do not realise that it is your contribution that is key and that it does make a significant difference to the rest of society.:( Unlike that of politicians, hedge fund managers, bankers and others of their ilk.

Of course it's cheaper to pay somebody benefits than pay them a salary. Financially cheaper anyway - but what about the social impact of poverty, particularly on kids?

Oh, yes sorry, just remembered, its the Tories we're talking about - they don't give a damn about society. My mistake. Chuck 'em all on the dole. Bunch of wasters, if you can't set yourself up in busines or call on your families millions, then sod you.

Big society, my arse. Fucked up, no society - here we come.

Lunacy.

It's lunacy!

We live in a society- all of us, together. Not a 'big society' a real one, where if you get paid, you can afford to ..er.. buy stuff. Stuff that keeps other people employed. And you feel like you have some self worth, so you're healthier, happier, and that's a good thing for everyone else too.

Hello!!!! (knocks on Tory's head) Anyone in there??????

Currently v pleased that the traitor scum Lib Dem vote collapsed totally in the council elections round here yesterday.

msyikes what is this Lib Dem you speak of - aren't they extinct?

imo all these cuts will have a knock on affect.
for instance cut DLA and benefits for the disabled and more families will have to put their family members into residential care, which long term will cost the government more.

ds (18) has just applied for job seekers.
I will be interested to see how much help he is given in finding a job(shouldn't be that hard as he only has 2 fields he won't work in)

As I said before, we are not under a Tory govt. We are under a coalition govt.

Davyboy wants our ideas so we should tell him. If I could afford it, I would work the tearooms for Mumsnet and tell him.

Mr. Cameron, you want to know what to do? Pump money into the public sector, in an economic downturn, it is the only way to put money into the private sector. If you cannot keep people off the dole you can (by investing in social housing/education) invest in our future.

Cut public expenditure you cut private expenditure. Cut education expenditure you are not speculating to eccumulate. The cuts you are implementing are endangering our recovery and the future of your party.

Mr. Clegg, your electorate do not want what you are being railroaded into. I know the LibDems are as much against what Osbourne is proposing as we all are.

The choice is yours.

Pocketmonster you're right- in BB Nicky style- 'Who ARE they?! Who ARE they?!'

The IFS believe that the cuts will result in greater inequality - and that poor families (working and non working) with children will bear the brunt - financially and in loss of services.

www.touchstoneblog.org.uk/2010/08/ifs-confirm-that-families-and-the-poorest-are-hit-hardest-by-cuts/

so no, YANBU.

How this works is very simple:

1. Make millions of people unemployed
2. Cut benefits to incentivise the unemployed to get work
3. The unemployed can't get work because there are no jobs
4. Berate the unemployed for being lazy
5. Cut their benefits again to incentivise them further
6. Public spending falls because of 1, 2 and 5
7. Cut taxes for the well-off
8. Repeat 1-7 until you lose an election

It took 18 years before we got to step 8 last time, so don't hold your breath.

Yeah it did, but back then they had a majority, then started a war. Now they don't and can't afford the war they voted for.

The govt. should realise that they voted for and played all their trump cards. They have nothing left. Except their record. Haha haha.