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To go and sleep in the spare room because of DH's bloody post grad course?

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babymutha · 17/08/2010 00:53

Have nowhere to go now... am cross, love him, but am so cross.

DH is doing a 1 year pt PGDip which was SUPPOSED to finish next month. I asked him not to do the course in the first place, I pleaded with him, because I wanted to try for another baby, but he went ahead anyway, so we put all baby plans on hold for a year (horrible pg with DD, now 2.5, scared it will happen again).

So his course is supposed to be finishing next month, only NOW IT'S NOT. He is way behind with his hand-ins, the course leaders have thrown away all the deadlines because everyone is so behind and NOW they've extended the course by A WHOLE BLOODY YEAR. I didn't think they could do this, but apparently they can.

I have asked him to sit down, look at his workload and set deadlines himself so that he can get the work done by christmas, he sort of agreed to this at one point but now is saying he'll get it done by sept 2011! I am so livid. He won't set deadlines, he just comes home, eats, gives or doesn't give DD a bath, then disappears into spare room all evening reading academic papers (but not producing any written hand-ins), we hardly ever spend any time together as a family - I even spent last sunday with his parents and DD on our own so that he could have time to work, have been to festivals with DD on our own and am going camping in france with DD and my mum. I am so angry. He is pretty wonderful in all other respects, but I want our life back, and I want him back with me and our DD. Just had another row about it, now looking at futon in spare room and contemplating sleeping there tonight as a protest. Expect everyone is asleep by now so won't get any replies anyway (can you tell I'm feeling sorry for myself).Sad

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OldLadyKnowsNothing · 17/08/2010 01:09

Of course you're NBU.

But he seems less than enthusiastic about a second dc. Which is fair enough, really. Have you talked with him about how you'd both cope with a pregnancy as bad as your first, given there's your DD to think about?

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babymutha · 17/08/2010 01:13

yes - he said he would drop out of the course, but afraid I don't believe him, I think he would struggle on, and I would struggle on, and it would be b awful. He's also said he wants another DC but seems to be in denial about my age and health... I can't really afford to be putting it on hold for another year.

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JumpingUp · 17/08/2010 01:21

You seem to have no problem telling him how you feel about things. However, it sounds, from your post, as though your DH is very unassertive about telling you how he feels about things.

As OLKN said above, it seems like he doesn't want another dc. However, rather than talking to you about it he is avoiding the issue and just causing further problems and frustrations.

On the face of it it seems he is being mean to you but personally I think he is too scared to tell you how he really feels.

Sorry, but if you are spending all this time without him, I would also want to check with him that he is still interested in you too. He doesn't seem to be making any effort to get the work done so that he can spend time with you. :(

I think you both need to sit down for a big old talk. Tell him you want to know honestly how he feels about it all. He will probably be scared to talk at first. Good luck with it all, I feel for you.

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ChippingIn · 17/08/2010 01:26

Sleep in bed with your DH - align your breathing with his and relax.

You need to talk, properly. I agree with JU and I think you need to encourage him to really talk to you - not just agree with you.

Sorry it all seems so shit right now and I'm sure in your position I'd be just as upset and angry as you are!

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NickOfTime · 17/08/2010 01:34

I'm assuming he's working as well, as it's a pt course?

It's not that unusual for pt students to extend another year tbh, especially if you're working and trying to raise kids. I know I did. So far it's taken me 3 years and I'm still not done - it started out as a 1 year masters...

Studying, working and parenting is pretty much as bad as it gets, tbh. It sounds as though you are trying to take a lot of the parenting responsibilities so that he doesn't have to, which is great that you're being so supportive, but it's very easy to just get bogged in a course and to see no end in sight. To try and imagine giving up all your hard work for nothing is fairly unpalatable, but a lot of parents have to, because it's just impossible to juggle everything.

There isn't an easy answer, really, particularly as like me, your dh seems to lots of reading and little producing. I call it George Eliot syndrome, but at least she knuckled down and came up with the goods periodically. Wink

Good luck whilst you struggle through it. I know on the other side I've felt like saying, 'you know what, I'm doing this for ME! Everything else I do in my life I do for someone else, and I'm going to finish this if it blooming well kills me.'

It hasn't yet, but it might.

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babymutha · 17/08/2010 01:37

DH not assertive, v true, and I am feisty articulate woman who won't shut up. Have looked at futon Chippingin, it is piled up with camping gear and v unattractive, plus DD will probably wake up in an hour and come looking for cuddle, so will take your advice and try to align breathing.

I have tried the big old talk,Jumpingup but it's not gone anywhere, just round and round in circles, if he really doesn't want another baby then he's not being straight with me. Think he probably doesn't know what he wants, and is burying his head in his photocopies. Sad

What's happened to our lives? It was never like this before DD.

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babymutha · 17/08/2010 01:43

yes, nick, he's working too, v stressful job in mental health NHS. ha ha. Just to add to his joy. Thanks for the view from the other side of the fence, think it might kill him, me and DD sometimes, but mainly just object to it killing off all the fun and family life. What can I do to help us? I know he's not going to give up the course but how do we get through this?

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ChippingIn · 17/08/2010 01:43

Well, before DD he wasn't doing this was he?

Before DD one of you behaving selfishly didn't impact the other one as much as there wasn't any slack to pick up - just yourself to amuse.

Try for tonight, to go to bed, to cuddle up, to appreciate having a man there that you love and loves you.

Deal with any problems after sleep in daylight hours - worrying about things at 2am will not fix them.

You may have tried talking before, but you don't have any solutions - so you need to talk again. The key is to talk so both of you listen to each other and don't just have the usual discussion where you both feel you could write the script. Give him the space to really talk to you.

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babymutha · 17/08/2010 01:54

thanks ChippingIn. he goes silent on me, which infuriates me, so I get assertive, which doesn't help. Will try giving him space, may have to count to a thousand...

I am sorry, I am having such a 2am wallow - I am lucky, 20 year anniversary next year, and although I'm cross, I really love him, he is a wonderful man. Sound advice from you all. Thank you. Think I should go to bed....
night night

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ChippingIn · 17/08/2010 01:57

Backwards from 1000 helps!

Ex was a 'goes quiet' too - it's hard work!!
It's very difficult not being assertive when they wont actually speak up about what they want or how they feel and just agree with you.... I feel your pain.

But yes, go to sleep, snuggle up and deal with the shit tomorrow :)

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KathyImLost · 17/08/2010 02:27

This might sound like an odd question, but are you sure he's just spending his time 'reading academic papers'? I would be suspicious he was up to something else if he spent all his time locked away. Is there any way you can check?

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KathyImLost · 17/08/2010 02:28

Oh and YANBU.

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NickOfTime · 17/08/2010 02:36

timetable.

if he can't timetable academic work, insist that you timetable a family downtime - eg saturday or sunday. (lots of mums who are studying have to timetable, because they have to literally work within childcare hours. is this something he could do? (i can't, but some are really successful with it)

and try to do something on your own once a week without dd too. leaving him with her. in charge. daddy bonding time. tbh i'd do this in any case, whether he was studying or not, but i'm a bit hardcore about shared and equal parenting Grin (i used to work away at weekends from when our first dc was a baby Wink)

and sort out a time when he can go away with you. it only has to be a few days, but as a family.

honestly, it's really easy to get bogged in to studying - you can't see the wood for the trees.

i also would grit your teeth and accept that this will go on until the end of the next academic year. but only grit your teeth and accept this if he agrees the other terms - ie he agrees to timetable one or other area of his life. Grin

i do feel for you both. it's hard.

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NickOfTime · 17/08/2010 02:39

(and as for the baby thing, you know, you will both survive if you do fall pg. i've always been a bit of a 'whatever will be, will be' in that regard.)

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mummytime · 17/08/2010 06:32

Get him to sort out deadlines. If he is like me as a student, he can't really get going until he has a deadline. So talk to him, and get him to set a deadline by which he has to get one piece of work out of the door. Stick posters of that deadline around the house, and countdowns to it. Keep reminding him of how long it is to it.

Actually you getting pregnant might just provide the stress he needs to get producing. But it would be a risky strategy.

Good luck!

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babymutha · 17/08/2010 09:09

thank you all for your sound advice. Nickot - that's a brilliant strategy - it will feel good to come up with something positive rather than being negative all the time - it is making me depressed. Am going to do my own course! Once a week, but will help me to get some perspective - I've not done anything for myself since DD was born and feel a bit lost in this SAHM alternative existence. And will also insist on family time and some time away together, will also dispose of all contraception and be damned. Thank you all - am Sad but not feeling so stranded. x

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bramblebooks · 17/08/2010 09:22

Much sense spoken - I'm studying too (and working and have a disabled younger child). The only way we can manage is if I schedule my working hours and family downtime. My DH is a bit tunnel visioned when he's working on a project too, which is difficult as he's self employed. The only way forward for us as a family is to negotiate the next few days at a time and schedule in things to do - usually away from the house and laptops!

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ChippingIn · 17/08/2010 10:04

babymutha

Sounds like a good result :) Now to tell DH!!

No need to feel stranded, not when there are so many of us bossy helpful MN'ers around!

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NickOfTime · 17/08/2010 15:01

bramble - me too Smile. dd2 has cerebral palsy. thankfully dh isn't studying as well at the moment, but boy, we've been there.
op - good luck! it will be fine. Grin

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