Why is MTV not censored like everything else on TV?

[AlisonDubois]

My DH watching(drooling) over MTV about 6ish this evening.
DS(8) and DH(3) come downstairs and start watching. Then they both start dancing and singing 'This sex is on fire'. Feel a bit wrong about this but DH just laughs.
Then a song I've never even heard before comes on...some disco pop thing. OMG, the women on it might as well be completely f*ing naked. There they are gyrating and thrusting...singing about getting hot and dirty on the dancefloor.
I just sat like a goldfish amazed. DH didn't bat an eyelid.
This shit should not be on TV until after 9pm. Why is it not censored FFS?
AIBU?

I remember the kerfuffle over Madonna's Justify my Love. TBH, that is really tame nowadays.

Yes, that must be it.
She's in trauma!.

What nonsense. A kid dancing to current music is now bad?

"This shit should be on after the warershed...do not want my 3 yr old sing about sex.
And no I am not a frigid cow, just a worried parent. What is this stuff saying to my kids?"

Was there someone threatening to shoot puppies if you didn't sign up to pay for "this shit"? If you don't want MTV, don't pay for it. Spend the money on something for your three year old instead.

SayitOnce - A kid watching simulated sex dancing videos is probably not good.

"A kid watching simulated sex dancing videos is probably not good."

Quite. Is it news that MTV contains this? No, it is not. Is it difficult to avoid MTV being available in your house? No, it is not. Is it unreasonable to expect parents to do something about the TV available in their houses rather than whinging? No, it is not.

I don't have any pay channels either, just freeview.
We have two Music channels, the channel 4 one, and Viva.

Really, it takes more than a couple of music channels and a few videos to do harm.

I love to see my DD making up dances, just as I love to see her writing stories, and doing an 'Art Gallery'.

Oh well, there you go, she is harmed, terribly, and I'm an awful Mother. In other people's eyes at least.

I still don't see it and will continue to let her watch and make up dances.

YANBU

From the <a class="break-all" href="http://webarchive.nationalarchives.gov.uk/20100418065544/www.homeoffice.gov.uk/documents/Sexualisation-of-young-people2835.pdf?view=Binary" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Report into the Sexualisation of Children.

Music videos

Sexually provocative music videos are commonplace and easily accessible by children on TV and on DVD. Section 1.20 of the Ofcom Broadcasting Code states that: ?Any discussion on, or portrayal of, sexual behaviour must be editorially justified if included before the watershed,
or when children are particularly likely to be listening, and must be appropriately limited.? Yet sexual posing and suggestive lyrics are found in many music videos shown before the watershed. In the case of DVDs, music videos escape the statutory classification required for other types of content by virtue of a loophole in the Video Recordings Act 1984.

Recommendations

? Broadcasters are required to ensure that music videos featuring sexual posing or sexually suggestive lyrics are broadcast only after the ?watershed?.

? The current gap in the regulatory protection provided by the Video Recordings Act 1984 be closed, either by removing the general exemption for ?works concerned
with?. music? or by lowering the threshold at which exemption is forfeited. Proposals to lower the threshold at which music videos
lose their exemption are currently before Parliament and should be supported or even strengthened.

Not sure if there are any campaigns lobbying for this. This report was commissioned by the previous Government.

We only have Freeview channels. Not much to censor.

im going to say this very, very simply.

its called parenting.
if you dont like it, turn it off.

not exactly bloody rocket science is it?
put on a DVD, put on antiques roadshow. or put on your wellies and go outside....

why should TV/Radio/The music industry make itself child friendly? there are more adults and teenagers in the world than children, why should we all have to suffer nice fully dressed Micheal Buble videos instead of naughty naked Lady Gaga just because parents dont seem to understand that you dont HAVE to have the tv on AT ALL.

its not aimed at kids. you cant get lady gaga lunchboxes....

Well this YouTube did of 7 yr olds dancing to Beyonce's Single Ladies song is all wrong: here

I'm going to say this very, very simply.

My 8yr Old Is Fine And Happy And Enjoys Watching Music Channels, With Current Music.

Last time I looked I was a parent, I parent my 8yr old.

She's tucked up in bed now, after having her favourite book read to her.

And I thought I was a judgey pants.

SayItOnce - would you be happy with your 8 year old copying Rhianna as she bascially simulates sex with a microphone?

It is a slippery slope, and IMO we are pretty near the bottom.

It is indeed your choice to let your 8 year old watch these videos.

I would think that if you were entirely comfortable with this then you wouldn't be so defensive.

sayitonce, my comment was aimed at parents who dont like their kids being exposed to sexualised/violent images yet expect the media to turn the images off for them, not you!

personally, my 13 year old is a Lady Gaga fanatic, and i love seeing my quiet girl sing [with her fab voice] and dress up and feel free to be whoever she wants to be and no matter what anyone else thinks, thanks to Lady Gaga having more depth than image and melody.

Shriek! Ladies' bodies! The word "sex"! Hell in a handcart! There's no place like home! We're all doooooooomed!

Turn it off then

What LucyGoose said.

Definitely what LucyGoose said.

Sometimes I think mnetters are more scared of their dh seeing hot bodied dancers and are using the dc's as a cover story

Are you not in favour of the watershed? .

Do you think that pop videos have become more "sexualised"?

Where do you all draw the line then?

What if a 2 year old watches them and starts "bumping and grinding" etc.

Genuniely want to know.

Persuade me why my DS 2.10 should watch them!

Please look at the report I linked to - the executive summary at least.

"Children and young people are not only
being exposed to an increasing number
of hyper-sexualised images; they are also
being sold the idea that girls should look
?hot?, regardless of their age. As such, they
are facing pressures that children in the
past simply didn?t have to face."

Lemonysweet, I don't understand why you think it is acceptable for MTV to break the law. I agree that ultimately it is the role of parents to supervise what their children watch, but that is no excuse for MTV to do whatever it likes, regardless of the rules it is meant to abide by.

On these kind of threads people always seem to mention this Buble person as the alternative to Gaga. No insult to either Buble or Gaga (who I've become quite keen on), but we do have an amazing musical tradition in this country and most adults are fairly familiar with a number of different genres that they really enjoy. So it isn't as if these are the only options available for us to listen to before the watershed.

Tv isn't background noise, a choice should be made what to watch. Therefore why would a 2 year old watch MTV?

You can always put a code on cable or satellite to control what your children watch.

Fwiw we're on holiday in the states and have just come back from the beach, we flicked on cable at 5.30pm to be faced with the Gimp on Pulp Fiction . Give me Rhianna and Beyonce anyday.

Hmmm.

I tend to agree with Alouiseg that TV shouldn't be background noise. I'm quite firmly of the opinion that if the channel's unsuitable, it's the parents job to unsubscribe/control access.

That said, is there a bowdlerised music channel available? I imagine there would be a market for a 'we only show wholesome videos, & absolutely no gyrating filth' type channel.

I'm more concerned about the effect of pornified music videos on slightly older kids, tbh; & I think they've become rather more ubiquitous than can be contained by imposing a watershed on MTV.

Older children will just find the vids on Youtube or filesharing sites.

Exactly.