because airport security tampered with my babyharness and did not tell me?

[Ionama]

On a recent attempt to go on holiday, I took off my Baby Bojorn harness and put it thru the xray, I put it on the way I had taken it off and plugged my baby back into the strap I had opened. 5 minutes later may baby fell out of the carrier resulting in a serious injury and I have come to find that 2 side buttons of the harness had been undone. The trip ended up being a 5 day stay in hospital for my baby (and us). No-one told me to come while they 'inspected' my carrier and it was simply in the tray with my hand bag etc. Am I being unreasonable in wanting them to inform parents if/when they do this?.. so that another child's safety is never again compromised..? I am still very much in shock and recovery from my baby's injury... :(

Don't understand this one at all.

Like lots of others of said can't understandhow you couldn't have seen them 'checking' the harness. it goes in one end of the tunnel and out of the other.

Plus if they felt a need to check it for something sus. eg drugs, concealed weapons etc etc they have to establish who the owner is as if they find something they need to know who is responsible.

The first thing they always do when they find something sus. which has gone through the x-ray is take you aside and ask 'is this yours???' Even did this with my DSs rucksack when he was 7 asking him what was in it and who had put items in it (sus item- a McDonalds toy!!).

how upsetting for you poor wee baby.is he ok. q wee nod that they had inspected straps would have alerted you

Scottishmummy - as others have said, the security staff would not have examined the carrier without the owner present. If they want to do more than look at it on the xray, they call the owner over and examine it in front of them. So either the security staff didn't touch the carrier or they examined it in front of the OP. They might have moved trays along, or stopped something falling out of a tray, but they have to have the owner there to examine something.

Plus apparently no-one at the airport knew about the accident even though it happened on their property, or recorded the incident in their accident book, nor did a First Aider attend, even though the accident was severe enough for an ambulance to be called.

on a human level her baby was hospitalised for 5days.frankly that trumps staff checked her straps.what an ordeal for the mum

All that happens when you put stuff in the tray is that it goes through the X-ray machine. If there is ever cause for concern the item is then taken to one side and searched in front of you (has to be, you cannot be held responsible if anything illegal is found)
So although the accident is regrettable you cannot hold security responsible unless you definitely saw someone tamper with it.

The whole story seems odd. As reported the accident happened air-side, ie after security. That's a sterile area: the only people who can get into it are either passengers carrying boarding passes and airport/airline staff with airside passes.

An accident involving a passenger happening airside is a big, big deal: it means having airside-cleared medical staff and equipment, and (unless the passenger is travelling on hand-luggage only, which seems implausible) they'll in turn be a non-reporting passenger, which means that their bags have to be pulled from the aircraft (positive match means that bags don't fly without the passenger for fairly obvious reasons).

All hand luggage that went airside and then re-emerges back to the same airport's landside will get re-screened, and if it's unaccompanied all the more so, for a whole stack of reasons. If this happened somewhere with weak inbound/outbound segregation, like Birmingham or Heathrow Terminal Five, there's going to be a real concern about the passenger who's been taken to hospital's possessions. If you can work out why they photograph you at security at Birmingham, you can work out what the risks in this scenario are.

The airport would be massively involved in the aftermath, because apart from obvious RIDDOR issues, there are serious security, immigration and customs issues. All of that's missing from this account.

SM - You know this for certain do you?

fuck no.words on a screen.you know for certain its lies?

I have been watching this thread now for a while and i have to say i agree with scottishmummy.

If its true no the wonder the mum hasnt came back - she has been through an awful exprience and was probably wanting some understanding and sympathy.

She hasnt really and has been told this accident was her fault.

it was an awful accident and no ones fault, these things happen, although some times some things have worse consequences than others. All you can do is learn from them.

If its not true then just leave it, because if it is true then this thread has really not helped.

If it is not true and has been posted maliciously then it is slander. If it is true then the person concerned needs to be aware that the harness came apart some other way (when taking baby out/putting back in without her noticing, faulty harness etc etc) and needs to consider this so she can try to ensure it doesn't happen again.

itsybitsy08, accidents happen, but that doesn't mean it is no-one's fault. The OP is claiming it was security staff's fault.

I still think it is the OP's fault because she should have checked the sling before use.

That doesn't mean that she can't be sympathised with, but there is no earthly point in pretending otherwise.

I have said and will say it again I have every sympathy for Ionama and her baby

Its a terrible thing to have happened and I firmly believe that the airport need to be told what has happened and it needs to be brought to their attention as soon as possible to prevent other babies being injured.

But I also think that Ionama is either not telling us everything, or is so shocked at what has happened that she is not recalling the events clearly.

Also, there are a few things that she has said that do not make sense or add up and I would like her to come back to this thread to clarify them.

The alternative explanation is that the whole story has been made up.

Agree Lougle. It's a very sad accident and I absolutely wish her baby well but ultimately the responsibility to check lies with the parent. You can't assume that something is ok, you have to check.

As Tokyonambu says, because this incident happened airside, after security, the paramedics that the OP says she called would have had to go through security too - so the airport would have had to know about this incident - and it would have been logged and investigated.

The OP makes no mention at all of the airport staff even knowing about the incident, let alone being involved with dealing with it - and this is impossible.

For me, this is too big a hole in Ionama's account of events. I was already sceptical about this story because of other inconsistencies, but this is the final straw for me.

SDTG - agree with you I'm afraid

so sorry for your poor baby! There are a lot of unanswered questions here but I don't think op is a troll (if she is its a horrible thing to make up). Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't remember her saying first aiders weren't present or h&s weren't involved. Thousands of people go through airports everyday, I can imagine that people fall over/collapse/have epileptic seizures etc at airports quite often so its almost an everyday occurance that an ambulance is called to an airport. I really think the priority for all concerned would have been getting medical attention for the injured baby rather than finding out exactly what had happened and how. I think its quite reasonable to think the ops dh would leave the sling on the bed for 5 days without checking it while his ds was seriously ill.
I've been through airport security before with my ds sleeping in his pushchair and other times been made to wake him, fold and scan pushchair, remove jackets and shoes etc. Theres no consistency there at all, sometimes they are really thorough, sometimes they are not. I know they are supposed to call you over to open bags and things but ime they don't always do this.

I was wrong - Ionama did say that the paramedics were called by herself and the airport staff - I apologise.

However, the security staff wouldn't have examined the sling without either Ionama or her dp present, so that part still does not ring true for me.

this forensic nitpicking of her op and its detail is ott.some of you obviously just cannot wait to find flaw or fault or shout troll

so what if her post doesnt read like a H&S incident sheet.oh wonder if she logged an IR1?why cant she produce cctv for y'all to peruse?

oh must be a liar eh.

that sheer bloody mindedness to prove troll is worse than any alleged troll itself

Should we accept everything we are told, without question, scottishmummy?

I detest these baby carriers, I never used them, and I cringe when I see them. I always feel that whoevers using them should be holding the baby too.

If her story is true then what's the issue?

I know how I would act in a situation like this, and I know how I ACTED when I was unhappy with how I was treated by security at an airport, and it wasn't anything like what this poster has been through.

Think I'm going to hide this thread now because I don't think the OP is going to come back and its just going to descend into two camps, the we believe her and the we don't

mn an internet forum ffs not a incident and risk committee.there is no onus of proof upon any post.nor is there any need to seek corroboration for every damn post either

this nit picking is worse than any alleged troll activiy

and if you need corroboration and certainty from an interbet discusssion forum then maybe you take mn wee bit too seriously

But scottishmummy Ionama started this thread by saying that the security staff tampered with the baby carrier.

Most posters started asking questions because they could not see how this could have happened.

I still don't - sorry OP - any time I've ever gone through security they have called me over if they wanted to inspect stuff, and other than that I've put the stuff in the plastic tray, gone through x-ray, and picked it out at the other end. Security staff haven't touched it.

Tamper means to interfere in a harmful manner for the purpose of altering, damaging, or misusing.

That's a big accusation to make.

oh thats what i mean the forensic nitpicking about words.oh she said tamper ah well therin lies proof of guilt if ever i read it?