to be a little smug at the fact neither of my DC know what to call a cigarett

[Gigantaur]

they know what a cigarette is they just don't know what one is actually called.

the closest was DD who called it a "flag"

DS is 9.10 and DD 5.10

they also call all alcohol beer and have been known to pull a face at people who say they are going to the pub.

DD has also gone up to a man smoking and told him he was going to die because he smokes.

I did tell her that was rude and she wasn't to do it, but i did smile inside.

This is a really weird thread. The OPs kids know what cigarettes are and presumably what people do with them and that they are bad for you but some people disagree with children learning the words for things that are harmful?? That is bizarre!

after reading this have just asked my 2 DC (8yrs and 5yrs) if they know what one of those things people put in their mouths and smoke with are called. Neither knew. They know it's smoking and bad for you (their gran died of lung cancer a few years ago). They've just never been exposed to it, we don't know any smokers and most places are smoke free now. I have been embarrassed when the little one has walked by a smoker and said loudly, 'look mum that man is smoking, is he going to die?'. The older one seems to think I drink all the time and spend all my time in the pub (really don't , honest injun folks!). He even put it in his class description of the family - 'Dad takes me to the park and mum goes to the pub!)

I said all those things when I was a kid. I was never going to do any drugs at all....

Ladyanonymous - isn't there a moral or legal choice here?

Replace drugs with "hard-core pornography" or "paedophile paraphernalia" and your argument (as a type) doesn't stand up.

Some things just need disapproval, right from the outset.

Am I smug to be pleased that my older children know the name of quite few illicit substances, why people take them and what damage they do, if any? They also know the names of licit substances such as alcohol and nicotine and that they can do you damage in large quantities. And then can talk to us about them.

My oldest daughter coined her own phrase at the age of 3- "Smoke sticks". I must say I felt quite pleased that they had played so little a part in her life. She's 15 now and still thinks that it's a filthy habit. to my knowledge she has no friends who smoke or are even vaguely interested in smoking.

I really think this is the most bizaare opening post. You child can't pronounce 'fag' properly and your other child knows what a cigarette is but doesn't know what it's called. Why is this a reason to feel smug??

I'd be distraught and so disappointed to find that my DC smoked in the future. I hate, hate, hate it, especially as my mum died fairly young from lung cancer after a 40 yr habit.

Poor Riven whose 18yr old is on 30 a day! What are these young kids thinking of!

a child this age SHOULD know what a cigarette is. a drink. going to the pub or a party. becasue all these things are NORMAL.
we don't smoke but ds1 has seen peole do it. we ride to school on our bikes. how could you miss it ?
scanty your 8 yr old doesn't know either ?
do you take them shopping into a city centre ? "They've just never been exposed to it, we don't know any smokers and most places are smoke free now. "

doesn't that strike everyone as odd ?

OP, you've obviously been going to the wrong pubs.

points out again for those who haven't read whole thread (swanandduck) that it is not "bizarre" for an autistic child not to be able to pronounce a word properly.

Oblomov - not sure what is so odd about it. Obviously they have seen the odd person smoking in the street and so on. I've explained what it is and that's it's a nasty habit which is bad for you. I assumed they knew what it was called but on asking them, they couldn't recall the name. Make whatever point of this you want to.

Ladyanonymous made a post saying "... at some point a choice will be made as most kids will come across drugs, booze or ciggarettes at some stage in their adolescence."

and BalmyArmy responded with

"Ladyanonymous - isn't there a moral or legal choice here?
Replace drugs with "hard-core pornography" or "paedophile paraphernalia" and your argument (as a type) doesn't stand up.
Some things just need disapproval, right from the outset."

Firstly, I question whether most kids will come across either hard core pornography or paedophile paraphernalia (whatever that means)

Secondly, I am staggered that anyone should imply drugs, smoking or alcohol are as morally reprehensible as pornograophy or paedophilia.

I have often thought that the moral outrage against smokers expressed on mumsnet suggested that some posters equate them as social pariahs on the same level as perverts, but this is the closest I have seen anyone come to expressing it.

On the basis that they'll rebel as teenagers you're going to have two heavy drinking smokers on your hands in a few years time.

Save the smugness until you're sure you are out the other side!

Fanjo

The opening post said she was feeling smug that neither of her children knew the word cigarette. I don't understand why she feels 'smug' about that and that is why I questioned this thread. I still do.

i didn't rebel.

Do you hope the OP's children do? Sounds like it, tbh.

swanandduck - well, she said "a little", and I don't think she was being entirely serious.

WTF is Paedophile Paraphanalia? A fucking clown suit from Paedos'R'Us?

You really are being 'a little' pedantic now, Fanjo.

no, you are taking the thread "a little" seriously

TCNY - yes and a macintosh

A macintosh AND a clown suit? FANCY.

mine are both very accomplished at skinning up. we are so proud

It is not bizarre for the child to be unable to pronounce the word but it is slightly bizarre for the mum to feel smug about it. Surely we all want our kids to have as big a vocab as they are capable of - even including not-so nice words like hit, gun, cry, alcohol, cigarette etc. How on earth could you have a discussion about the dangers of smoking without mentioning the word cigarette?