overweight toddlers for m&s

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i think i heard in the news this morning that marks and spencer is launching a range of large clothing for overweight toddlers, i thought the goal was to not have overweight toddlers,next tv add: no more need to keep an eye on your child's diet, just shop at m&s. they will have to change the name for m&ms, just to keep a theme. thoughs please, i find this quite disturbing.

I always find m and s kids clothes are REALLY small too, maybe they should just make therer normal clothes bigger.

I was under the impression (proboably from TV progs like the lovely Gok's ), that well fitting clothes, cut to fit and hang properly, improve an individual's self-esteem and confidence.

If sending children to school in properly fitting clothes helps them to feel confident about fitting in with their peers, then I'm all for it.

When are they going to start making clothes for tall skinny kids?

DS1 wears a size 8-9 for the length but they are all waaaaaay to wide. He is a perfect waist fit in a size 5 but then they stop about an inch or so below his knee.

Tall people need clothes to!

My understanding was that all children's clothes sizes have increased in any case to adjust to the increasing weight they are carrying. My nine year old has a 23 inch waist and she is over 5 foot, so that seems really quite big for a four year old, and presumably it is if it's not possible to buy clothes that fit. I don't think this is a problem with M&S, but it does take us another step down the line of normalizing obesity. That you can get XL clothes for children in the States doesn't surprise me at all, when we lived there it was really noticeable how many fat children there were. When I took my children for their check with a pediatrician (required annually for school) she spent the whole time exclaiming how great it was that they weren't overweight

For a lot of children and parents, this is just going to provide a few extra options, and a bit more chance of getting stuff that fits. As an example, DD has always been on a higher centile for weight than height, but not to the extent of being classified as overweight. She spent her Reception year at school wearing M&S age 6 trousers, turned up about 3.5 inches, because she needed the extra width around the middle, but was nowhere near tall enough for the leg length. In the autumn term of Year 1, I let the trousers down by 1.5 inches, and she wore them like that until the summer term, then when I tried them on her last week I realised I would need to let them down again.

So finally, aged 6.6, she is the 'right' height AND width for M&S age 6 trousers - put another way, she has been growing up but not out for the last 20 or so months. It might have been quite nice to have been able to buy age 4 or 5 'XL' when she was in Reception, and have trousers that fitted without adjustments (although as it stands, we have had two years' wear out of the same two pairs of trousers, and stand to have at least another term, hurrah!)

It might also mitigate a bit against weird sizing - eg that some shops' age 6 trousers are STILL too long for DD, even though she is taller than the official height for age 6.

The chubby 2 year old is not to blame and shouldn't suffer for their parent's poor diet choices by wearing uncomfortable clothes.

I think it's good. my daughter is 5.5 and very tall. She isn't classed as overweight, but she still needs age 8 jeans, with the legs taken up, as the 7's didn't have much room around the waist.

It's no different than our Evens etc.

M & S boys clothes are small for their sizing - my 7 yr old ds is in thier age 10 stuff - he is not overweight, just on the 95th centile for height and weight.

My 9 yr old dd is now a bit smaller than him being built on the petite side, and she also wears the age 10 (boys, she hates anything pink / frilly) stuff so I cannot see that they would fit anywhere near an average 9 year old boy let alone one who is 10!!!

i thought they already did this @ bhs school uniform "generous fit" ones i have seen it?

Next already do plus fit - I know when I was shopping in the sale online all the plus sizes were coming up as available for trousers. Regular were sold out.

Gap and Gymboree (american brands) already do plus fit.

DD needs the opposite - needs length but slim fitting - thank goodness for adjustable waists.

I think M & S are just adapting to market demand.

"as a slight aside, if a child shows up as large all round, stomach, legs, head, the works on their 20 week scan, is 91st centile at birth for weight and height and continues to grow along the same centile lines, are you saying they're really obese and the parents are deluded? Are they supposed to be put on a diet?"

Twoistwice - yes and no.

A baby who is 91st centile is not considered overweight. A 2 year old who is 91st centile is not considered overweight. But if you go above the 91st centile at school age (5 years old) then you are just on the edge of overweight - in that if you are 98th centile, you are now overweight, whereas a 98th centile toddler is not.

This is information I found out in relation to my son, who was born at 98th centile and followed the 98th centile to his 2nd year. He seemed to be following his centile and I wanted to know if that was actually going to become a problem at some point.

Thing I found, however, is they turn 2 and its like flicking a switch, suddenly they are picky and dont necessarily eat what they used to. I moved him onto semi-skimmed milk at 2, and apart from not having many sugary snacks (he has some, just a few times a week instead of a few times a day) he is now on the 75th centile. Also, I didn't let him down loads of apple juice etc as drinks as this was calories I felt he simply didn't need. Not dieting him, as such, just exercising caution.

My daughter weighed 12 kilos at 6 months old. I dont know what she weighs now at 9 months old, I weighed her at 6 months to see whether the car seat was still safe. As far as I am aware, for a girl, that is off the centile charts. She is also off the centile charts for height - as was my son at that age - he was always in proprtion, she is slightly fatter than she is tall but not by much.

But I'm not worried about it - I'll do the same with her. Semi skimmed when I move her to cows milk, no drinks with calories apart from 2 milks a day, very few sugary snacks, and hopefully the toddler pickies will kick in and help her level out too.

Also, I let them charge around as much as they like, even if its giving me a headache.

If I had a child who had a genuinely insatiable appetite though, that would concern me more. But she eats less than her brother did at that age - so I suspect she will level off even quicker than he did. I hope so anyway - she has sumo wrestler legs, she's not going to make a very dainty ballerina at this rate...

sloany pony, my point exactly.
i had a friend whose dd was having chocolate mouse at 4 months, because she like it ?, my friend was told again and again to give an appropiate diet, i only fear to think what that poor girl, now aged 4 perhaps, would be eating now... not everyone is a responsible, savy parent,... it might be a point to know exactly how big is the bigger size, but i am afraid it will keep growing to keep up with children like my friend's. very sad. it did serve me a lesson, promised myself never to do that to dc.

Why, they just go with market demand.

BHS sells more extra-wide school uniforms than ordinary size ones!

BHS are not being slated.

My DD used to wear plus size jeans from Next. She had a bit of a belly on her, we did buy jeans 1 or 2 sizes up but they were really long in the leg. She had a healthy diet, but that was her build-she wasn't classed as overweight vy the nurse or health visitor, she was just a chunky little girl!
She has now slimmed out a lot, shes also very tall for her age. Im sure it will all change again in a couple of years!

Just to bring up a point, both of my nephews probably have a lot worse diet than my daughter, yet they both have to wear slim fit clothes as they are so skinny. Are you all going to critiscise THEIR body shape?