to want landlord to fit extra plug sockets in my kitchen

[mumof2children]

i have 1 double socket, so for ever unplugging the electricals

the one has an extention lead to keep the fridge, freezer and washing machine...the other to plug in everything else

Yes you are being unreasonable. You would not be unreasonable to expect the landlord to consent to you paying a qualified contractor approved by the landlord to install extra sockest if you would like them.

Meant sockets, obviously

i dont think yabu to want it. i dont think the LL has any obligation to do it but it depends how nice they are and how much value they place on a good tenant. agree with lola though, just ask them if it's ok for you to get one fitted.

in my contract it say i am not allowed to make any alterations to the house.

if you want to improve it and pay for it they are unlikely to say no.

I can't see the LL objecting if you are paying for it to be done properly.

Like jasmeen said, you wouldn't be making alterations - you would be paying for a minor professional alteration with the landlord's consent. Most agreements will allow you to do minor things with consent and if they don't, you are legally fine provided you do get LL's consent and comply with the conditions of any consent e.g. using nominated contractor.

i lived ina flat where i had no sockets in my bedroom
i had an long extension lead from the hall.

ask the LL. no alterations is likely to mean knocking down walls etc. but something like adding a socket (increasing the likelyhood of them renting the place again after you) should be fine. cant see why they would object.

Just make sure you get consent in writing.

That doesn't sound like nearly enough sockets for a kitchen! As a landlord myself, I don't think you're being unreasonable for asking and probably the right thing for him/her to do if he/she doesn't want to pay for it, is to allow you to get someone into do it.
I have some tenants who live in a beautifully refurbished house of mine. They are asking for a radiator to be fitted in one of the bedrooms - there are radiators all through the house, but not in this box room). They've lived there for three years without it and took the house as it was back then (everything new and I mean everything.) I provided a washing machine from the off but the lady kept breaking it. She got through 3 secondhand washing machines in 9 months and my property manager said I needed to provide another washing machine or drop the rent because they took the house with a washing machine and that's what they expected to have.
When it comes to the radiator, I'm minded to think similarly. If they want it as an extra, then they perhaps should pay for it as it wasn't included in the original agreement. I have no problem with that. I think that your way forward might be to offer to put in an extra socket yourself.
That said, I'm not sure whether there's a health and safety issue having so few sockets in a kitchen. I certainly wouldn't want my tenants plugging white goods into adapter plugs, which I think people may be tempted to do in the circumstances.
All the best with it anyway.

see what he says, i don't mind paying for it to be done....he can pick the electrician himself i just want to be able to sterlise my daughter bottles and make a cup of tea at the same time lol

i have a huge phobia of fire...so wont overload sockets

What are the appliances (excluding the FF & WM) you need to use?

tumble dryer, kettle, sterliser, toaster, bread maker, deep fat fryer ( i only cook home made chips in) also breville sandwich toaster

are the appliances supplied with the house? It doesn't sound entirely safe....

It costs more than you might think to do this work because the sparkie that does it has to certify the whole house, or something (so I'm told as I want one of my ones turned into a socket - its already got a white thing, I just want a plug) - yours is probably even more complicated if they have to actually install a socket from scratch.

I do think that 2 plugs for a whole kitchen, if it includes things like the fridge, is ridiculous from a practical point of view. A 2nd set of 2 sockets further along the bench somewhere would be "normal", at a minimum, unless your kitchen is absolutely tiny.

In Scotland houses built since 1990 have to have a minimum of 6 (3 doubles) in the kitchen & this report by the Electrical Contractors Association refers to a similar number as being the "minimum that would normally be considered adequate", though that report is of course produced by an industry that has an interest in the installation of more sockets! The report might give you some useful ammunition as to why it's safer to have an adequate number of sockets, though you would of could need to avoid suggesting that you are likely to overload the sockets!

I have to say I could not imagine life with only 2 sockets in my kitchen, especially in only one location - I have 28 sockets in mine (10 double & 8 single) and I use them all (though not all at the same time!)

what about something like this

mumof2, on the face of it, your 1 nº twin-socket is woefully inadequate for the kitchen. Is there really only one (are there other connection points under the counter)?

Where does the tumble dryer connect?

As a rule, I always have separate circuit for appliances such as dishwasher, washing machine, tumble dryer, fridge/freezer & another for the portable stuff (kettle, toaster, microwave etc).

The extension to the fridge, freezer & washing machine will likely see 1.5kW max when everything is running, so assuming the lead is not overly long & isn't coiled, that sounds ok.

In the short term, you could use a block type adaptor for connecting the steriliser, deep fat fryer, bread maker, but not at the same time the kettle is being used. Also, depending upon the toasters (2 or 4 slice), they might be ok.

If it was me, I would establish the exact connected load of each appliance to be sure. (I have estimated the connected load of all your appliances is between 10.00 & 11.3kW)

HTH

Seona1973, that will be limited to around 3kW (the load of a kettle), so as mentioned above, will only be suitable for certain combinations of appliances.

Rusty, very good point, the rules are different north of the border.

However in the UK, the overriding concern is with safety, and the regulations attempt to provide an environment which prevents the public from inadvertently creating a situation of danger.

As such, a single socket in a kitchen would seem to fall below that. Many would spot that as a potential problem when viewing a property, but for some, it's not always top of the list.

Sloany,any electrical work carried out must look back along the circuit(s) to the point of supply.

Typically, for the work you want undertaking, there will be one 'ring' or 'radial' circuit fed via a protective device at the consumer unit.

Assuming the the installation is >20 years old & in sound condition, it should not involve anything else other that changing the existing "white thing" (probably a fused connection unit) for a socket. None of the wiring should be affected.

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