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to be furious with Bugaboo?

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DastardlyandSmugly · 13/07/2010 14:19

Long sorry...

I bought a Bugaboo Chameleon at the Babyshow on in October 2005 prior to the birth of DS in March 2006. With the cost of the car seat adaptors and the transport bag the total cost of the pram was £678.95.

The reason we chose the Bugaboo Chameleon was its obvious flexibility and the fact that it seemed quite sturdy and should; therefore, last through more than one child. It was because of this that we decided to spend so much money on this pram.

We received the pram in November 2005 and assembled it but did not use it until DS was born. Within a few weeks of use the pram broke. The central axis on the left hand side of the chassis (if the big wheels are at the back) became unstable and the pram became very difficult to push and impossible to get up and down stairs and kerbs. A few days later it broke completely.

I contacted the retailer and they advised me that they would need to return the chassis to Bugaboo and, in the meantime I could borrow a chassis from them. I had to travel, with a new baby, across London (don't drive so public transport) to drop off my chassis and collect the replacement. I then had to make the journey again 2 weeks later when the chassis was returned repaired.

In 2008 the same problem occurred with the chassis. At this time I was still using the Chameleon extensively for my son and was pregnant with my second child. I contacted Bugaboo to explain that the central axis had again become unstable on the left hand side. After much toing and froing, and some distress from me at the length of time this was taking and the fact that DD was due very soon and I didn't have a working pram, Bugaboo spoke to DH and kindly agreed to replace the chassis. We received this in June 2008.

My daughter was born in August 2008 and we have used the pram since then until very recently when, once again, the central axis has become unstable rendering the pram very difficult to push, difficult to get up and down kerbs and impossible to get up and down stairs.

Due to this issue I have contacted Bugaboo in order to obtain a repair to the chassis. I was told that because the pram is out of warranty, there is no possibility of an extended warranty and there is no repairs service. I did appreciate that the pram was out of warranty and that I would have to pay for any repair but to be told there is no possibility of a repair was a complete shock.

I couldn't believe that the only option the Bugaboo representative offered is the possibility of purchasing a new chassis from a local stockist. As stated above one of our reasons for spending close to £700 on a pram was the expectation that it would last through at least two children. To discover that I am expected to spend a further considerable amount of money just to continue using this pram is appalling.

In addition, the pram has been considerably more trouble than other prams that we have used: at the moment we are using a borrowed Mamas & Papas pram from a friend, a pram that was purchased in 2006 at a cost of £89 which has had no problems at all.

I complained to Bugaboo and have received a response for them today saying I should never have been given the new chassis in 2008 and they are sorry it has made me feel like exceptions can be made. I'm not expecting anything free - I just want to pay for my very expensive pram to be repaired.

So now I'm left with an irreparable and unsellable pram that cost a lot of money and a very bad taste in my mouth.

Perviously I was a huge advocate of the Chameleon - thought it was a wonderful pram. Now I'd advise anyone asking not to buy one as they quite clearly aren't built to last despite the eye-bleedingly expensive price tag.

Thanks if you got this far.

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tokyonambu · 02/09/2010 20:52

I left out the next point from my cited source: " After six months and until the end of the six years, it is for the consumer to prove the lack of conformity.
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tethersend · 02/09/2010 20:57

You know what? If you would rather pay for faulty goods to be repaired than pursue a claim against the retailer who sold you faulty goods, or prove the fault then go ahead.

It makes no difference to me at all.

tokyonambu · 02/09/2010 21:00

"If you would rather pay for faulty goods to be repaired than pursue a claim against the retailer who sold you faulty goods, or prove the fault then go ahead."

Have you been successful when you've done so?

tethersend · 02/09/2010 21:12
Hmm

No. I haven't had to legally challenge a retailer because they magically seem to fulfill their obligation to the customer once the sale of Goods act is pointed out to them. IME

Flattered as I am that you would only pursue your (hypothetical) claim had I been successful, I find your reasoning a little odd TBH. And a bit creepy.

Did I upset you on another thread or something? You seem quite annoyed.

1944girl · 02/09/2010 21:17

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tokyonambu · 02/09/2010 21:21

Not at all. I'm just curious about "entitled". The vendors would be perfectly rational to back down rather than fight an action unless there was a shitload of money at stake, especially as there are usually no costs available to the winner in a small claims court. What's the oldest item you've managed to succeed with? Perhaps I'm just lucky, but I can count the number of items that have failed before a reasonable time on the fingers of one hand, so I've never had to worry about this seriously.

tethersend · 02/09/2010 21:35

Do you think I'm a lawyer?

Am finding this a bit baffling, TBH.

Have been repeating myself on this thread since its inception nearly two months ago. Nobody took any notice.

Why have you taken exception now?

blueshoes · 02/09/2010 21:51

Don't think it would be difficult for OP to prove lack of conformity in the case of a broken chassis.

You really would not expect that sort of fault in a product as expensive as a bugaboo within 6 years.

Litigation (or the threat of it) is definitely worth a go. Small claims court?

tokyonambu · 02/09/2010 22:35

"Don't think it would be difficult for OP to prove lack of conformity in the case of a broken chassis.

You really would not expect that sort of fault in a product as expensive as a bugaboo within 6 years."

That's why I asked if anyone had actually run it to a court and won. For example, there's no exemption in the Sale of Goods Act for cars, and in fact there are obligations upon car manufacturers (15 years of spares supply from last date of sale, for example) which don't apply to other vendors.

I had to replace the starter motor on my car (86 000 miles, five and a bit years old) this week, and as it happens I had enough of a warranty - having recently bought it from the lease company - that the warranty paid. But suppose I'd bought the car new, rather than had it as a company car for the first five years: I'd have no recourse other than the presumed SoGA rights being discussed here. What are my chances? Has anyone tried this?

blueshoes · 02/09/2010 22:37

Can't answer that, Tokyo. But I imagine if the chassis on your car broke after 5 years, I would be in court.

weasle · 03/09/2010 14:49

Thank you MNers, I thought my bugaboo was history as the chassis doesn't fold. have looked at buggy pitstop and it seems that is a common problem and they can fix it!

Hurrah, hurrah!

gre · 26/09/2010 20:34

Has anyone out there tried to complaining in writing to the Netherlands?Have the address but i'm not sure whether to bother or not

mumbecca · 18/09/2011 16:50

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AKMD · 18/09/2011 16:53

Erm, why has this thread been resurrected from over a year ago? Unless you're advertising? Hmm

FabbyChic · 18/09/2011 16:59

Seriously? It does not come with a lifetime guarantee! At some point it is going to be fooked and you have to buy another one. Nothing lasts forever.

ThePosieParker · 18/09/2011 17:00

Six years old? Jesus Christ. I think it's just broken, buy a new one.

ThePosieParker · 18/09/2011 17:00

Oh.

ladyintheradiator · 18/09/2011 17:05

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pigletmania · 18/09/2011 17:06

OP dd probably does not need a buggy anymore as she is probably about 3 now

mumbecca · 25/09/2011 17:04

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BumWiper · 25/09/2011 17:53

My 2005 graco for ?100 is still going strong and still in great condition.How much money you spend does not mean better quality.
Bugaboo gifted their prams to celebs making them a must-have item.

paloma2012 · 30/11/2013 18:14

Our Bugaboo Chameleons3 has had faulty chassis - our 4 months old buggy broke down on one side while I was taking my son down the stairs, the brakes did not function anymore and the handle got out of axis completely. We fell on the stairs and the pavement - it was still better than ending up under a passing car. The shop we bought it from did not act very surprised and replaced it quickly with another model which was very kind of them and helpful but also made me wonder if they had many similar returns. Please consider carefully before buying Chameleons3.

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