does my son have a dairy intolerance

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DS2 already has confirmed allergy to egg and peanuts. The last five nights, he has been sick in the evening/night. Just once every time. He otherwise seems well and happy. I wondered if he is needing to eject the bottle of milk and yoghurts he has before bed? Or if he were dairy intolerant, would the reaction be much stronger? IT's always really yoghurty sick and then he's totally fine, never voms thru day. If you know anything about this subject, please post what you think. Taking him to GP tomorrow anyway. Thanks all.

Could be. Dairy and egg allergy are closely related.

Does he only have dairy at bedtime though, or does he eat dairy at other times OK? I'm just wondering if it could be a thing of having something heavy to eat/drink immediately before bed.

How old is your ds?

he's 18 months. Thinking about it, he's started to pretty much refuse his cereal with milk and doesn't get dairy really at any other time, so part of hte reason for the yoghurt and milk at bed is to give him some dairy. It did occur to me that maybe it was too much at bedtime, and that he only takes it because it's sweet, ish, even tho he may be full.
I'll try him without tonight and see if he's better with just a drink before bedtime.
his nappies are foul just now too and smell of sick so i'm aware it could be a bug?

Foul nappies and general gastrointestinal problems can be symptoms of milk allergy or milk intolerance.

It could maybe help to cut out all dairy from his diet for a few days and see if he improves (making sure he gets calcium from other sources) - then reintroduce dairy and see whether the symptoms come back.

He might just about be old enough that they will be prepared to refer him for skin-pick testing at the GP esp since he already has other known allergies. A warning about GP's and milk allergy though is that most are notoriously ill-informed, so if his symptoms continue you might have to be very a bit persistant in order to get the GP to listen.

My DD symptoms were really really foul nappies - many with blood in them, bad tummy aches, constant vomiting until every last drop of dairy had been ejected, followed up by cold type symptoms! This has now lessened (DD is just over 2) to tummy ache and bad nappies if the amount is significant.

We only got a diagnosis because of the blood in the nappies - that was when they took it seriously!

It takes 10 days for dairy to leave the system, if you are going to test.

Maybe its just too heavy for him to tolerate just before bedtime?

Hope he feels better soon.

my ds gets a rash all over and vomits, now tolerates things with milk in, (like chocolate buttons ),

we use oat milk with added calcium - oatly- for cereals, cooking and milk before bed

have you tried goats milk and yoghurt. Often a supposed diary intolerance is actually a cow diary one. My DGD was put straight onto goats milk products from weening as my DD has severe cows milk intolerance.Much easier to digest and closer to human milk

my DS1 has lactose intolerance. He has never vomited in his life but until we cut to lactose free foods he never had a poo that you could pick up (IYSWIM), his poo smelled unholy and he always had a poo in his sleep and was easy to toilet train for his wees, but impossible for poos.

he ate like a little bird before the diagnosis and always had disturbed sleep and in-night crying episodes.

Anyway, we took out lacose and he was "cured" of all of these problems virtually overnight. We have this weekend, about a year after totally cutting lactose, just started to introduce goats milk into his diet as the consultant said he may not always have this intolerance. So far so good,...but we are just going softly softly.

just wanted to share my experience,..especially the vomiting thing.

Good luck

Thanks very much for all these posts. Good info to have.
Question: Where would he get calcium from if I dropped dairy for a while? Forgive my ignorance!m What would i give him in a bottle last thing at night?! he seems to need that to go to sleep.
From what you've said LittlePushka, I don't think my son is intolerant on one hand because the vomiting happens not immediately after he eats it and in any case your kid was never sick, however he's always been a nightmare sleep-wise and has a poor appetite(compared to DS1, and I have no other yardstick).
He did seem under the weather this afternoon anyway. He's hardly eaten anything tonight, not the usual "you've hardly had any tea so here are a couple of yoghurts to make sure you've had enough", just 100 ml of milk if that, so we'll see if he is sick tonight.
He's had the skin prick test for eggs, then took a reaction to peanut butter two days after being at the hospital, so I need to tell GP that anyway and watch him more closely with new stuff.
I know GPs don't really buy the whole lactose intolerance thing anyway, but I'll mention it when I'm in, just to see the arched eyebrow... Hopefully he'll not be sick tonight and will be back to normal tomorrow!

Just wanted to add that if he has cows milk protein allergy, goats milk is not considered a suitable alternative as over 95% of people with cows milk protein allergy also have allergy to goats and sheeps milk too.

If you get a confirmed diagnosis of cows milk protein allergy they usually won't even test for goats/sheep milk allergy as well. The usual advice is to avoid all these milks.

calcium from oatly - it has to be the red one with added calcium, or rice milk with added calcium, plus we give ds calcium supplement liquid called floradix calcium, its all from food sources so formulated for babies.

more importantly is essential fats when you lose the dairy so plenty of avocado and also we give him 'eskimo kids fish oil'

i give ds a bottle of warmed oatly, he loves it, he was bf for 22 months so it was a relief to wean him on to a bottle at 22 months! nanny formula is great if you want to try goats milk, but it gives my ds diarrhoea

If that is the case, what would I give him instead of all these milks? Soya okay or oat milk?

Thanks kalo, you posted just as I posted that! Are these all available from your normal supermarket?
Do you put the calc. supp. liquid into his food then?

oatly is available from lots of places, asda is the cheapest, i shop online precisley for this.

the other stuff i get from a very good health food shop near me. he has it on a spoon, loves it , it tastes nice, the fish oil is tutti frutti flavour

how old is he?

Thank you, will note all this. Might even try it with him for a couple of weeks and see if he seems better. Has bad eczema too, so won't hurt to try. And was really colicky as a baby when feeding. will post what I find out.

also i have some book recommendations for you.

what can i feed my child - susannah olivier - brilliant recipe ideas for allergies etc esp dairy. most recipes are dairy and wheat free

digestive wellness in children - elizabeth lipski - importane of right foods/allergies and various symptoms and associated illnessess/conditions

In the short term, whilst trying an elimination diet (if you go down that route), oatly with calcium would be fine, and if you want to give yoghurts, soya yoghurts would also be OK (but look for the ones labelled as with added calcium).

Longer term, because your ds is under 2 you will probably be able to get hypoallergenic formula on prescription from the GP as all the milk substitutes are low in fat in comparison with cows milk. A warning though is that these generally taste foul (Pepti tastes about closest to regular formula)!

A dairy free diet is a pain to start with, but soon it becomes fairly easy to modify recipes to dairy free. It helps though if you cook most of your food from scratch.

He's 18 months now. But has had cow's milk since about 10 months, been generally fine.

Just the sickness reminded me of how he was sick when he had had peanut butter, a kind of coughing first, and it coming up undigested, but at other times he's been sick half way through the night, so that doesn't tie in.

sorry - 'what should i feed my child'

says in them that all exzema is because of dairy intolerance

My son has a suspected dairy intolerance. I say this as the consultant said there is no test for it so it can't be a definite diagnosis.

He is dairy free at the moment. I am off to the dietician tomorrow for some help. I have been using the Alpro soya yoghurts and have a prescription formula called Nutramigen.

i went to my docs at six months, they gave me a prescription for post natal depression,
anyway the dietician just called offering me an appointment 18 months later.

docs are pretty useless imo,

apparently soya is bad for boys as contains too much oestrogen

hipp organic banana rice pudding is dairy free and a good alternative

I am not lactose intolerant and can consume milk, cream, butter with no ill effects. However I cannot stomach cheese, yoghurt or creme fraiche - have an almost immediate reaction of D & V with even the smallest amount. Apparantly the allergy? intolerence? is to the bacteria that curdles the milk. Could this possibly be the same for your son?

i must admit that i am totally puzzled by the remark that goats milk is closer to human milk............i know some woman are hairy, and we can be good at climbing, but still , closer to human milk!

good grief!

Thanks to everyone for sharing your info. He was sick today after a satsuma and then at lunchtime an apple, so I think he has a bug. The GP confirmed this too. But I feel for you guys having to find good milk replacements, bit of a prospect! thanks again.

can buy fresh lactofree cows milk and fresh goats milk from the chiller in supermarkets. i agree with one of the above posters that once you get in the groove its second natire really.

Hope you get your little fella sorted soon!