Soya formula suitable from what age?

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I'm thinking about starting to move DD2 onto formula (currently 6 months and EBF). However DD1 is exceedingly allergic to dairy, so am reluctant to have cows milk formula around. We've bought a tin of Nutramigen 2 and have started giving her that (poor thing, its vile stuff) - but just had a brainwave that maybe we could use soya formula instead, which could be cheaper and nicer.

Does anyone know from what age its OK to use, and if there are any particularly good brands? I have no idea about formula as you can tell....

Of course, could all be pretty academic given that DD2 won't take a bottle

Hi there

My ds is on Nutramigen 2 and when he saw the paediatrician last week she said that he could have been on soya from 6 months...something that the GP had not informed me of. So I would say now is as good a time as any!

Thanks TheChic - I had an idea that it wasn't until 12 months for some reason? Not sure why DD1 was prescribed Nutramigen 2 at 11 months then either, rather than soya. I'll have to look for some soya formula then. Will certainly be nicer for me than making up Nutramigen, even the smell makes me feel ill!

Our dd started off on Soya- she was under 6 months. We tried WySoy and Infasoy. Both fairly easy to get hold of.

So is your dd1 allergic to dairy not cows milk protein?

Our dd2 ended up on Nutramigen AA as she is cmp allergic so soya still no good. Agree Nutramigen vile stuff but she likes it

DD1 is allergic to the CMP in dairy - but she's not allergic to soya (a good proportion of those allergic to dairy are also allergic to soya, but not all). Thank goodness - don't know what she'd eat if she was allergic to soya as well!

Okey dokey, seems to be a consensus that its fine, that'll do me as a solid medical opinion!

Yes. As long as you don't muddle up the Baileys with the soya formula you'll be fine

Aha, but it might make DD2 sleep better

Try Cow and Gate Pepti. Tates better than nutramigen. It was the only formula ds2 would take immediately as it tastes almost like regular formula. Otherwise try Cow and Gate Infasoy

No, no, no, no, no. Soya shouldn't be used before age 2. Please don't use it! If she is dairy allergic then her nutramigen should be on prescription, so the cost of it is irrelevant to you.

Cantsleep - why do you say soya formula shouldn't be used before age 2? Am interested to know. I know soya milk shouldn't be, but the formula?

Its not for a dairy allergic child, its for my DD2, who is not allergic (I think/hope) but we can't use regular formula as my DD1 is too allergic even to the small traces she would touch on DD2.

ds pead says soya formula is out of favour due to being linked with infertility and early sexual development, cancer and probs due to aluminium content (Altzeimers?). I don't know anything about it myself though but she did say its not recomended in under 2s.

More [[http://www.soyonlineservice.co.nz/04babyhealth.htm]info here on why you should not give your child soya formula.

Phytoestrogens are very difficult to remove and they will be present.

You need to go to your GP and ask them to prescribe the nutramigen,as it should really be given under medical supervision - at least that way you don't have to pay for it

I assume you want to move to formula in preparation for a return to work? My ds also refused the bottles, and only drank water during the day at nursery, just fed like a demon when I picked him up! He was absolutely fine

here, sorry

There´s an interesting article here outlining some of the problems.

Crapola. Looks like we're stuck with Nutramigen and/or me carrying on BF (Yes I'm going back to work, but not for a while, more completely fed up as been BF and/or pregnant for over 3 years now ). So skint or no life, great

Bf'ing doesn't have to mean no life acbs . What is it about it that makes you feel like that? Maybe we can help with suggestions so that you don't.

Fwiw I've been pregnant and/or bfing for over 4.5yrs so far, and anticipate this being the case for another 2.5yrs at least (am 3 months pg)!! It doesn't stop me from having a life except in the first few months of each dc's life.

I've also been pregnant or breastfeeding for almost 5 years and I certainly do manage to have a life too. I get nights out, drink (occasionally, my tolerance is a little lower than it was!) occasionally leave them with grandparents overnight... The first six months are the worst because you're the sole source of food but the more solids they eat the easier life gets as other people can help out more.

CSWS, it doesn't seem that long ago since you were pregnant before - then I can't believe my LO is a year old and you had yours before me - congrats!

Thanks CDC (is that your usual name?). Ds is 14 months now - I really don't know where the time has gone!

Pepti is not a soya formula. It is an extensively hydrolysed formula like nutramigen but whereas nutramigen is based on hydrolysed casein which tastes quite bitter, Pepti is based on hydrolysed whey which tastes 100 times better.

It is also considerably cheaper than nutramigen and therefore preferable from that perspective. Another plus is that Pepti still contains lactose
(nutramigen doesn't) and therefore as you have no issue with lactose intolerance, this would prevent development of a secondary lactose intolerance.

I'm incognito The time does fly by doesn't it? I can't believe I've been going for nearly five years, it doesn't seem that long ago since it all started and now I have a toddler and a baby rapidly heading towards it!