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advice please on 'puddings' - dairy intolerance

37 replies

misscutandstick · 13/04/2009 10:06

DS5 (2.11y) is intolerant to: gluten, wheat, soya, dairy, eggs, bananas, annato.

Is there ANY soft 'puddiny' deserts for when his brothers have say yoghurt or ice-cream - or indeed ANY pudding at all, as they all seem to need milky-gluten-egg stuff?

DS5 has quite truly had enough of sorbet!

Really hoping that you have some magic ingredient that i havent heard of yet [praying icon]...

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ShannaraTiger · 13/04/2009 10:09

Sainsburys do a lovley sorbet i ntheir free from range. Not sure on all the ingredients though as I'm only wheat and dairy intolerant.
Hope you get lots of ideas, I know how hard it is.

TheProvincialLady · 13/04/2009 10:10

My local health food shop sells a rice based chocolate pudding that is dairy, egg and soya free - but I don't know if it contains gluten, wheat or annato. I doubt it though. Would you like me to look at the ingredients on Wednesday and let you know the brand and the ingredients?

Catilla · 13/04/2009 10:16

My ds is allergic to milk and eggs but mainly we use soya as an alternative - so just trying to think of what he likes...

We have managed to bake with no-egg recipes using substitute milk and margarine - presume you have subs for these and perhaps could also use gluten-free flour subs? Also if you have some gluten-free cereal you can make crunchy cakes with cereal, dark chocolate, golden syrup...

We also buy quite a lot of variety on fruit things as alternative snacks/puddings eg. dried fruit, fruit puree (the baby food ones, he still eats occasionally at 4.9y), little cups of fruit in juice (like tinned, but somehow appears more appealing in plastic pots!). Also some success in making fruit exciting/appealing by providing chopped up bits of several fruit and a large plate - he designs a "fruit face" and then gobbles it all up! Oh - and jelly (home-made or in pots "little stars" find it on the supermarket shelf with the yoghurts.

We have used non-dairy ice cream (Swedish Glace) but assume this is probably soya-based.

Good luck, I'm sure there are others here with more experience.

TheProvincialLady · 13/04/2009 10:18

Also, you can make yoghurt from soya milk so I imagine you could do it with rice/oat/almond milk too (sorry I don't know much about gluten/annato so your son might not have these)

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misscutandstick · 13/04/2009 10:45

many many thanks for your rapid responses!

Done jelly to death as well unfortunately.

ProvincialLady, ooh that would be wonderful thankyou!

Incidentally annato is a 'natural' colourant and flavor, made into a powder from a berry. Its colour is kinda orangey, its genetic makeup is very similar to gluten. Its a main ingredient in birds custard powder, a colourant on some crisps, and on snackerjacks.

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misscutandstick · 13/04/2009 10:46

yoghurt from ricemilk? will have to look into that.

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TheProvincialLady · 13/04/2009 10:56

If he can have plain chocolate you could dip fruit in it eg strawberries, raspberries, cherries etc.

Will check the pudding for you and let you know. I was trying to look it up online just now but can't remember what it is called so I haven't had any luck.

I have often seen annato on ingredients lists and wondered what it was so thanks for enlightening me.

ohdearwhatamess · 13/04/2009 11:04

Blancmange made with rice milk? (not sure if cornflour is ok for him?).

Just looked at the packet we've got and you should be ok with vanilla and raspberry ones (annatto in strawberry flavour).

I make it occasionally for dairy intolerant ds1. In my experience you need to use less rice milk than the instructions suggest to get it to set properly and heat it for a bit longer.

simpson · 13/04/2009 11:51

You might find some things on dietaryneeds.com

I found some chocolate puddings (they do vanilla flavour ones too but DD didn't seem keen)They are made with rice milk.

My 14mth DD is severely intolerant to dairy & soya, we have done jelly to death too

flamingtoaster · 13/04/2009 13:16

My son is allergic to gluten and milk and totally intolerant to egg. His favourite pudding is: Blackberry and apples put in a casserole dish and baked with a spiced sponge mixture on top. We use Dove Farm glutenfree flour and each egg is replaced in the sponge by l heaped tablespoon of cornflour and 3 tablespoons of water. The cornflour substitution works well in all sorts of sponge mixtures.

You can make ice-cream with rice milk, coconut or almond milk: e.g. see veganicecream.blogspot.com/ (this is American so you would need to recalculate the recipes - and substitute one or two ingredients in some of the recipes but it will give you the principles). I find vegan recipes a great source of ideas.

eventhevegans.blogspot.com/2007/06/notes-on-vegan-ice-cream.html - this one just uses coconut milk and almond milk.

Just found this butterscotch pudding as well: dairyfreecooking.about.com/od/custardspuddings/r/bscotchpudding.htm - obviously use a soy free margarine.

I know what it is like when there are multiple intolerances/allergies - good luck on finding something he likes.

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misscutandstick · 13/04/2009 16:02

many huge thanks to everyone!

got a few ideas for starters (or should i say afters?) and good tips on where to look for more ideas. thanks again. will keep checking thread incase anyone thinks of something else.

cheers!

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misscutandstick · 13/04/2009 16:04

forgot to mention, hes fine with cornflour

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Takver · 13/04/2009 16:34

Rice pudding made with almond milk is very good. We have powdered almond milk that is rather sweet so no extra sugar or not much needed.

MonkeyPuzzle2 · 13/04/2009 16:53

Rice pudding with coconut milk is also good. I normally add pineapple, some dried apricots & sultanas and a little maple syrup. Good luck

trixymalixy · 14/04/2009 10:43

Hi,

My DS is allergic to soya and dairy as well so puddings are a bit of a nightmare.

Goodness direct do some rice desserts here. They are the closest I have found to yoghurt.

There is also rice ice cream, but the postage is extortionate so I have made my own using Oatly cream (available in tescos and goodness direct etc)here.

Oatly cream is quite thick so you can also stir fruit into it for a yoghurt alternative.

Birds Eye custard powder in a tin is egg, dairy and soya free so I make that for DS using oatly milk or cream.

Pearce and Duff's blancmange is also soya and dairy free (apart from either the strawberry or raspberry flavour) and I make that using oat milk.

you can make your own yoghurt using oat, rice or coconut milk. Finging a non-dairy non-soya starter is a bit of a nightmare so I haven't tried this.

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trixymalixy · 14/04/2009 12:01

Oops sorry, missed the gluten allergy in your OP.

Thought oatly might be your 'magic' ingredient .

I bought Orgran egg replacer the other day which had a recipe for egg/gluten/dairy free lemon pie that looked quite good.

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misscutandstick · 15/04/2009 08:54

thanks all

will look into that group thanks!

had a good look at all your suggestions and theres some good ones. I think the oatly might not be a good idea just yet but will keep it at the back of my mind. I know some of the blancmange has annato in it, but will look into making some of the other flavours. Hes also not keen on sponge type products, he tends to just crumble them in his fingers but going to keep going, he may give in and start enjoying it. Custard powder also has annato in it, so no custard at all for him! Trixy, will look into the rice desserts, are they smooth or 'ricy' textured?

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simpson · 15/04/2009 09:34

misscut&stick - they are the same rice desserts I have bought for DD

You can get vanilla (which she hated!!) or chocolate.

They are smooth textured but called rice desserts because made with rice milk...

They have been a life saver TBH

trixymalixy · 15/04/2009 10:14

I'm not sure what annato is?

That Orgran egg replacer also had a recipe for custard on the side. I'm not sure about annato in it though.

the rice desserts are smooth and I would agree about the vanilla, the chocolate is definitely better.

kalo12 · 15/04/2009 11:37

hipp organic do a banana rice pudding which is dairy free. it is a stage one food but it is very much like a yoghurt. my ds loves it, its still his main food at 14 months!

ilovemydogandMrObama · 15/04/2009 11:43

oatly cream is quite good...

rhubarb crumble with gluten free flour and soya margarine?

ILovePudding · 15/04/2009 11:58

I bought this book for dd who is allergic to eggs, nuts and dairy intolerant. It's written by the doctors who are treating dd. There are some great recipes in there, and it lists at the top of each whether it is egg, dairy, gluten, nut etc free, so is really easy to use. It's been worth every penny!