almost 1 year, dairy allergy, BF but stopping, what to drink?

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Hi
My DS is almost age one (wow how time flies!). He is intolerant to cow milk (but can take yoghurt, cheese etc. ok). I am BF (twice a day now) but thinking about stopping. i want a substitute for him to drink- i have been given soya formula for cooking by GP but not keen on using it other than on his cereal. Is oat milk or rice milk ok for a drink to give? I am hoping he may be ok with cow milk eventually as he can tolerate other dairy produce.

Oat and rice milk is too low in fat until 3, he needs a formula until then. My ds4 btw is one on April 7th and also inol (but my third intol one)

Soya is good, or if he's lactose intol a loctofree formmula will do, some might be available from your GP on prescription.

I'm continuing to BF rather than giv alternatives, but that's a personal choice at this stage.

My dd was exactly the same. I never worried about what she was drinking as she would have 2 yoghurts with every meal. I also put soya milk on her cereal, and used it for cooking. I would think that rice milk and oat milk would be fine if he will drink it. Did the intolerance start after a tummy bug?

Nothing will be anywhere near as good as breastmilk, and the older he gets the easier it gets. You should use a formula as a drink rather than oat or rice milk which just don't have the same nutritional value for a fast growing toddler.

Do you need to give up?

The good thing about soya formula now btw is that many have reduced the sugars; when ds1 was a baby (wouldnt BF) they ahd so much sugar that many of his teeth rotted,most brands have addressed that now.

I know there is stuff regarding hormones and soya, not sure how much actual data there is on that. DS3 had Enfamil alctofree until werealised it was a casein intolerance rather than dairy, that was great (from GP) and I used to have it ocasionally (also dairy free) as it atsted very nice indeed. But then we spotted the casein thing- boo hiss .

for ccasional drinks if it is a casein intol it si worth trying a goats milk (NOT Nanny Goat Formula- sure its lovely but it's currently not recommended in the UK) as the casein aprticles are smaller andeasier to digest, however it really is either formula or BF I am afraid, at least according to DS1's Dietitians and Paed.

I don't need to stop BF but I have been having some recent problems BF- 6 really big blocks that were very sore and now a sore nipple, no problems up to 10 months! Go figure. No idea why it all of a sudden getting hard. I would also like to ttc #2 and my periods have not returned so wanted stop BF for that too. I don't think he drinks all taht much BF anymore anyway. Twice a day and he is starting to lose interest and come off.

I not keen on soya as drink as heard not good for baby boys?

I would keep BF if it is the only best thing but as many go on to cows milk at year was hoping he could go onto something similar. he is one in 3 weeks time.

It is a casein problem by the way. he gets a red rash on face.

They must be almost identical in age then.

The baby boys thing is about soya mimicking female oestrogen; no idea how much validity there is in that!.

As it is a casein allergy i'd be looking at the normal full fat goats milke that you get in supermarkets tbh, try a little first- some kids do react- many don't hough and it's an excellent alternative to straight cows milk.

I also find sheep cheese (manchego, yum) good for me, again smaller casein particles so easier to digest.

Thanks, I'll try the goat milk. Yes very similar age, turn one on the 16th.

Or I will just keep BF if nothing else as prefer that to soya formula at moment.

i use oat milk. ds2 can't have any dairy, or egg, but he is thriving. he gets a very good diet. and if you think about it there are plenty of totally healthy vegan kids out there.

Problem is that vegan children get nuts to make up for the animal protein... and it is still unclear whether children who have a history of allergies should be given nuts at an early age.

Second the goats milk. Or if you want to make the transition even easier perhaps move to Nanny (formula made out of goats milk) before moving him into the real one.

I woldn't use rice milk, or soya milk as a main "milk" at this age.

but the OP's child does eat yoghurt and cheese. so it isnt liek he isn't getting any dairy at all.
some children just plain dislike milk, and I've lost count of the number of threads I've read on here saying "just give yoghurt and cheese instead"
I very much doubt he is lacking in fat or calcium if he has a good varied diet

and correct me if I am wrong, but there are nuts that aren't allergenic aren't there? pistachios? cashews?

Thanks for more tips, he does eat yoghurt and cheese ok and he is absolutely fine for his weight etc. so thriving fine so I'm not hugely worried about his calorie/ fat/ protein intake etc.

I think for moment i will still BF but try out the goat milk and oat milk as well. So that when i do cut out BF in next few months he is used to drinking something else. He did take oat milk fine in his cereal today.

how can you tell if your child is intolerant to milk or has a dairy allergy? my daughter aged 1 has always had a dodgy tummy and all her sickness spells were put down to stomach bugs but now im unsure. she has been very ill over the past week with sickness again. i did as i was told the first time round (little and often) but this didnt help either. so i put her on dry foods only such as toast and she was fine she has been ok for a couple of days now but every time i give her dairy products ( milk, yoghurts and cheese) she is sick within seconds. am i being paranoid or is something wrong? if it is how do i get it diagnosed?
btw she is still on formula milk.
if anyone could help i would be very greatful.
thanks becky

definatley try goat milk. if he is ok wth cow cheese and yogurt then goat milk should be fine. the fat proteins are smaller and so more easily digested, does he have excema btw? if so i would cut out all cow products and switch to goat cheese,yogurt milk and cream.

Its a she lol.
No she is not ok with cheese or yoghurt. That's why I am asking.
Thanx x

That's not the point. I'm asking if she has an alergy to ALL dairy products. She drinks plenty of water but I need to know so I know which foods to avoid.

sorry iklefred i was replying to the orginal post, but the same applies, try goats products.

thanks lol.

Ds2 reacted to goats milk as well. I kept feeding till he was two and he had rice milk. The dietician said rice milk was the bottom of the nutritonal pile but as long as his diet was good it would be fine.

She dd one of those computerised food diary things and he wasn't lackng in anything.

iklefred

that's how it started with my dd... after seeing several docs cos i was convinced there was more to it, one eventually suggested cutting out cows milk. it has made a difference already, and its only been a week. only one bad nappy this week and her appetite is improving albeit slowly.

keeping on soya for another week and then back to docs for a review, they may then do a stool sample.

doc said ok for cheese and yoghurt - she wont eat cheese at the moment but will have yoghurt and fromage frais drinks, have cut out butter but still give her breads etc that may have milk products in.

its hard to know what other products to use / avoid. but i am definitely cutting out chocolate for her as that was when i first noticed the reaction.

how are you getting on?

My ds was the same at stopping breast feeding at 13 months. He cannot tollerate full fat cheeses like cheddar, full fat milk and yoghurts.

We give him the semi-skimmed lacto free cows milk that you can get in most supermarkets.

I sometimes have to go back to regular semi skimmed cow's milk if we run out, but you can really tell the difference as he somes out in risen bumps on his cheeks. They clear up as soon as we go back to the lacto free.

He is sick if he has yohurts or any other dairy. He can tolerate a little taste of chocolate. Dp's grandparents fed him some ice cream the other day and he wasn't sick. So i think he's fine on tiny ammounts but can't tollerate a normal portion of dairy.

I had a dairy allery untill i was 7, and lived off of goast milk, cheese and soya products. But i think goast milk is a little strong tasting for a toddler used to breast milk. Also not too sure on the calcium content.

typing all over the shop!

Also just to add to get ds to drink cows milk (lacto free) after breast milk was a struggle. I had to add a little sugar to his milk for a week or so and decreased the ammount over the course of the week untill there was none. Breast milk is so sweet in comparisson to cows milk.

He can't get enough of the stuff now warm or cold.

thanks littlemissbliss will try lactofree too.

I bf dd for 13months too, and its been a hard slog since to get her to take cows milk in anycase, she was fine on the apitmel formula but the cows milk would always give her wind, so i used to mix the two gradually reducing the amount of formula, but noticed her nappies were getting bad and when i first gave her chocolate the reaction was almost immediate.

docs kept telling me it was a bug...

she hasn;t been sick for 8 days now which is great and only one bad nappy, she was very unsettled last night though and i wondered if it was wind - she had had two fromage frais during the day.

getting a bit confused by what i am reading though - is it the lactose or protein in cows milk that causes the problem - and how do the docs tell.

Lactose is a sugar found in dairy. Some people find it hard to process lactose and have reactions to it. Mild = intolerance (my ds)
Severe= allergy (me as a child)

I'm not sure about the protein in milk, i think if it is the protein that your dd is intolerant to she would also have had a problem with breast milk containing dairy from you, as well as the proteins found in soya. But i may wrong about that.

My ds would always be sick after fromage frais (all brands) at around 7 months i noticed this when weaning, then he had a reaction to cheese sauce on more than one occasion this is how i twigged the dairy intolerance. So at 13 months i was sort of ready.

Lacto free also make a brand of strawberry yoghurt's which ds loves (and is not sick on)
BUT they are high in sugar. But so are most frommage frais. So they are more of a treat rather than a daily thing. I also give him goats milk plain yoghurt ( a little sour) so i add fresh fruit and a little low sugar jam.

Its annoying when people don't get the allergy/intolerance in children and think the mums being fussy. My friend spoon fed my ds some double cream with out asking me and he had D&V that night, poor boy. MIL is great and does take it seriously.