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"lactose intolerant" but drinking goats milk?

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tatt · 08/03/2009 09:16

A friend of one of my children claimed to be lactose intolerant but drinks goats milk. This is as a result of testing by a "highly trained nurse specialist in allergy". They are reluctant to describe the tests in detail but it sound like vega testing. This woman also told the child they were allergic to potatoes (but when they found exclusion too hard and reintroduced without problem they were told their gut had recovered after 2 weeks) and lemon.

This sounds to me like quackery and I am concerned that a real cause of illhealth is being missed. But the child has improved a bit (placebo effect/ cows milk protein intolerance?).

What do you do faced with what sounds like a quack?

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piratecat · 08/03/2009 09:18

i don't know much but goats milk is often tolerated, and reccommended for those with dairy intolerence.

Peachy · 08/03/2009 09:29

TBH if its working i'dleve it , goats milk is fine anyway. Absolutely no isues there.

Could be CI (casein, cows milk protein intol), in which case some poeple do tolerate goats as the proteins are subtly different. My boys do.

I've been Dairy intl for many eyars and tbh untilr ecently people had only heard of LI and I always said I was for shorthand. ACtually until say 3-4 years ago I didnt realise the difference either: was just told milk intol.

FiveGoMadInDorset · 08/03/2009 09:33

DS intolerant to cows milk protein ( as in screams throws up and dodgy nappies and bad wind) but fine on goats milk.

babybarrister · 08/03/2009 20:19

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Nighbynight · 08/03/2009 20:55

Goats milk is often promoted in Germany as being naturally lactose free.

I am OK with goats milk, or with lactose free milk, but not with cows milk (unless I am taking lactase in the lactose free milk iyswim)

Nighbynight · 08/03/2009 20:56

babybarister, my GP in Germany suggested that I might have an allergy to undigested lactose. I don't a lot about it, but am just relieved that I can finally drink milk, by taking lactase.

Nighbynight · 08/03/2009 20:59

tatt, maybe the child showed a slight reaction to potatoes? eg, I showed a half reaction on skin tests to wheat recently, but I am eating it with no problems (used to react to it, but am better now)

mrsturnip · 08/03/2009 21:01

Shouldn't make a difference to lactose, but goats milk is more easily digested that cows milk and also contains a different protein to cows milk (an isomer).

If its the protein that's the problem then a child might be able to tolerate guernsey cow's milk which contains the same protein.

tatt · 09/03/2009 09:29

what is bothering me is that while there has been some improvement the child is still having time off school, although less of it. Also as goats milk contains nearly as much lactose as cows milk the person telling them they are "lactose intolerant" clearly doesn't know what they are doing.

They were told the child was "allergic" to potato, then she was magically better after 2 weeks.

The child possible does have food intolerances but missing out foods on the advice of someone so badly informed worries me.

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Peachy · 09/03/2009 17:51

The inly wa to really sort it is an exclusion diet, and that's purely up to the parents.

FiveGoMadInDorset · 09/03/2009 17:54

Peachy - are you all OK with Ewes milk cheese?

Peachy · 09/03/2009 17:55

I was but the boys ahven't tried it and my intol has klessened a bit over the years so i am not as reactive as them IYSWIM; I didnt eat enough though for a major problem- its a taste you lose a bit over time

FiveGoMadInDorset · 09/03/2009 17:56

Thank you, will give DS a small bit tomorrow and see how he goes.

Racingsnake · 09/03/2009 18:38

I read somewhere that goats' milk has smaller protein molecules and therefore is less likely to cuase problems. I have a friend who comes out in a rash with cows' milk but not goats' milk, even if she didn't know that that is what she was drinking, so not just placebo effect.

williamsmummy · 10/03/2009 20:03

vega testing, pure rubbish,...................

and as for goats milk, is said to be helpful to those with mild intolerence, but why not use lactose free milk???????????

bran · 10/03/2009 20:08

I can drink goats' milk with no ill effects but fart constantly and do exploding poos if I have cows' milk. I was never tested or diagnosed with anything, but the link between cows' milk and anti-social side effects was really obvious. I never really had a problem with yoghurt or cheese, but I guess that's because they are sort of pre-digested by bacteria.

I've never tried lactose-free milk, I don't think it's been around all that long. Goats' milk tastes better than cows' milk anyway.

Peachy · 11/03/2009 13:16

'why not use lactose free milk??????????? '

Coz its not casein free.

Andmost people atre actually casein intol.

Besides, why not use goats milk?We all do, tastes the same anyway.

williamsmummy · 11/03/2009 20:15

no, dont think goats milk tastes like cows...............or breast milk!!!

Is goats milk casien free?, like totally?

if intolerant to milk protein, any form of milk would be a problem.

perhaps those that have more problems with lactose are grouped in to the mild milk problems, like me with my IBS.

Those with severe intolerance problems would not be able to tolerate whole milk in diet. And of course due to much gut leakage would have problems with more than one food.

have heard that camels milk is meant to be good for eczema.........

do know that goats formula is not on prescription because of it failing safety standards for NHS prescription.

on the worst taste front, anyone tasted soy formula?............its nasty...........and smells like old chip fat.

anyone for rice milk?

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