Oh my god - massive reaction - could it be Lupine flour??

[IlanaK]

My 9 week old just had a massive reaction to something I ate through my milk. I have had to go dairy, egg, soya and citrus free as he easily reacts to what I eat. I have been trying wheat free too so bought a gluten free pasta. I had it for the first time tonight and when he fed a couple of hours later, he reacted quite violently, threw up (projectile) 3 times and is crying/screaming. The pasta packet says it contains lupine flour. I have never eaten this before so it is very likely the culprit.

I googled it and it definately comes up as an allergen. Has anyone come across this before?

I dont think that stopping breastfeeding was the message i wanted to get across.
I was more concerned about the posibility of getting medical support if needed.

all my children were breastfed for years.
my allergic son had terrible ezcema , and grew slowly and rarely slept. However when i stopped breastfeeding his skin improved, but at the cost of loosing the benifits of breastfeeding, = chest infections by the score, flu, and sickness viruses.

So what ever a mother decides to do, there are benifits and cons..........and that applies to both breastfeeding and formula.

Sorry, I was at a breastfeeding conference all day so didn't get a chance to log on until now.

Thanks everyone for the input. I have found this a really interesting discussion/debate as well as being helpful to me.

I have decided not to make anymore changes for at least two weeks and just see how he is in the meantime. While I have no doubt he is still reacting to what I eat, it is very hard to pin down the exact cause. So for now, I am accepting that he has periods of crying during the day (though they are generally short) and that he will projectile vomit at least once a day (that has now happened each day since the lupine flour incident).

A friend who is somewhat knowledgable in this area believes that as my gut is probably a mess (I have had IBS in the past and also have food intolerances), I will not be digesting my food well whatever I eat and this will have a knock on effect on him. IN other words, I may not be able to reach a point where he is symptom free.

I worry about how to wean him when the time comes in case he has any true allergies, but I will cross that bridge when the time comes. I have also delayed his immunisations until his gut has had time to mature.

IBS here too.
had severe food poisoning over three years ago. first year afterwards some days couldnt leave home.

finally have some control, did remove all caffine, and artificial sweetners, and reduced wheat and dairy to one portion a day.

however have to say, that MY mum said i was a colicy infant, and had ezcema by the time I left the hospital.

still have sensitive skin now....................I really shouldnt have bred with my asthmatic/hay fever hubby.

my OH was diagnosed with "IBS" which improved dramatically when he took milk out of his diet. A few years on and after giving him lactase tablets his gut has recovered and he can tolerate small amounts of dairy. He still has to avoid too much fibre and he takes lactase if he wants to have anything with a lot of dairy.

So "IBS" is not always the full diagnosis and the gut can recover. Once it recovers foods that were a problem to a damaged gut may no longer be the problem they were.

Gluten is known to damage the lining of the gut and cause problems digesting other foods. Lactose intolerance can be secondary to gluten intolerance.

IlanaK glad it doesn't sound like it was the lupine after all. Your child's gut will mature and they will cry/vomit less. They grow very quickly.

IlanaK avoiding medical assistance is not a good idea here. If you wait until you really need help, which by the sounds of things you are heading to, the medical teams will be much more concerned and interventionist. If you go now, and tell them what you have done so far, they might be able to give you some helpful advice.

I can understand you feeling that as a BF counsellor you have a good knowledge of BF and your diet, but you have no knowledge that you have indicated about neonatal or infant health. Your son could be suffering needlessly because you are avoiding health professionals who, despite the slating they get on MN, are there to help and support.

take him to the bloody doctor!!!!!!

fgs.

as for 'he still has periods of crying in the day'-he's 9 weeks old! of course he does!

themildmanneredjanitor - how is it that you managed to say in 6 words what I said in two paragraphs?

Thanks Hoochie for backing me up.

I have to laugh out loud at the assumptions that I am being pfbish and mistaking normal crying for a problem.

Let me reassure you all that not only is this my third child so there is no element of pfb, I also used to own and run two day nurseries (that took babies) so feel I have a pretty good idea of what is in the realms of normal.

As to medical help, I will of course ask for a referal to a specialist if I feel the need. At the moment, I do not.

Pretty good actually. Thanks for asking! He is settling down a bit now. He is still very sicky, but is less bothered by it all now so I assume he is in much less discomfort. Not sure what the difference is from, except maybe just getting older.