Des this sound like a dairy intolerance?

[frisbyrat]

Ds (8 months) seems to be uncomfortable and does lots of acid-smelling burps/possets, and is unusually difficult to get to sleep and keep asleep if he's eaten any cheese, cream, butter, or babyfood pots of "custard"-type stuff.

He seems ok if I use a bit of formula to mix up porridge or rice though. Feeds are bf.

I've always pooh-poohed (in my head!) people who say they have an "intolerance" as opposed to a full-blown, highly visible allergic reaction to foodstuffs. Is karma come to bite me in the ass here? Please help!

ps probably tmi, but grated cheese emerges from his, um, rear end, as sort of yellow balls studding his poo. Surely this is not normal?!

pps he has reflux, but fairly mildly now.

best thing would be to try an elimination diet - stop all dairy for about 5 days - and see if he improves.

Does! Gah.

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Pitchounette - ner ner

Thanks ratbunny!

Hmmm. Ok. Had sort of been trying that, hence my tentative conclusions about what seems to be causing him problems. But what can I give him instead of cereal with milk? Instead of butter on his toast? He'll waste away!

Great minds, Pitchounette!

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use pure dairy free spread on toast - available in most supermarkets.
you could use rice milk in his weetabix?
I would avoid ALL dairy - including goats milk, as the allergens are the same apparently.

Crumbs. Ok.

Wonder if Savacentre does goat's milk...

If he is intolerant to dairy, will he always be, or is it possible it might clear up on its own? I really don't have a clue about this at all. Need to educate myself, I think.

probably will clear up in a while.
ds was actually properly allergic to dairy, but he is eating cheese sandwiches ok now.

it does sound very much like it to me, do as the others have said and give it a miss for a bit.My DC have goats milk and cheese, soya yogurt and DF ice cream. they were all bf til between 10 and 17mo, and i really wish i know what you know now when i had ds1. He used to do projectile yellow custard poo.
Nice.

good luck trying it all out.

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Am now armed with info. Thanks, everyone!

Frisbyrat,it does sound a maybe. But often at 8 months you can see strange undigested things in the nappy! Thats quite normal.Maybe simply the milk products are a little too rich for your Ds just yet and in a few months it could all be fine..

My dd2 has always been intolerant to dairy, less so as she gets older (nearly 10yrs) but she still has bouts of intolerance when her gut lining has been overloaded. She gets reflux and bad stomach aches and the runs.

Dairy intolerance often causes/goes hand in hand with reflux.
Sometimes the child is also prone to eczema and glue ear although they are not officially linked yet. In bad cases you can see where the milk has caused a rash on the entry and exit points! (use your imagination).

Goats milk protein is very similar to that found in cows milk so if your Ds is intolerant to cow more than likely to goat too. Try rice based alternative like Rice Dream, as boys should not be having Soya milk either (too many naturally occurring female hormones in soya, thats why menopausal women have it by the gallon!!)
To test, you really need to eliminate from the diet for 14 days. Then you can reintroduce it in various states starting with cooked.
Some children can tolerate it in cooked forms and bizarrely yogurt doesnt seem to bother many of them.
Hope this helps. If I can tell you any more just ask. Its a case of been there done that with milk intolerance for us!

Second the pure and rice or oat milk suggestions (or almond milk if you want to spend an absolute fortune!). It takes 7-10 days to clear all dairy from your system, so you do need to try it for at least this long.

Dd reacted even to the dairy that I'd consumed when exclusively breastfed, but she still outgrew it around 20 months, thankfully.

Oh that lovely oat milk. Had forgotten that Cantsleep !
Can list loads of yummy dairy free food for you.
When I was pg with dc3 I turned completely dairy free while breastfeeding. Little so and so turned out to be nut allergic not dairy! (Well maybe dairyfree helped then, will never know!)

Yes calcium-fortified rice milk in cooking/cereal, olive oil instead of butter on bread (think continental) - as long as his main milk feeds are bf that should be fine.

Things like bananas and avocados are your friends for bulking up food. Hipp do some nice dairy-free jars for convenience and meat protein.

If it does look like dairy is the problem, aim to bf for as long as you can and go to the gp and ask for referral to dietician for advice.

Thanks again! Am thankful we live near an enormous savacentre, which I hope is likely to have at least some of these alternatives to cows' milk. I think.