Gluten (and dairy) intolerant wee ones - what do they have for breakfast?!

[hobnob57]

I am sure dd is bored stiff of baby rice with Pepti and GF toast with DF marg - if not, I am bored giving it to her! Problem is, I can't think what else to give her?

She is 11 mths.

Any bright ideas very welcome.

boiled egg with GF soldiers (works well with the GF pitta breads)

DF yoghurt with fruit

The GF porridge you get in the special foods section with rice milk

Is she OK with porridge? I'm coeliac and can take oats in small doses, ie porridge once a week, without any ill affects.

How about rice crispies with soya/rice milk? I know there was a thing a while ago about levels of barley malt in them but I think manufacturer's have changed the recipies. Sainsbury's own brand rice crispies are labelled suitable for coeliacs.

Sainsbury's also do a good range of gluten and dairy free stuff in their range, like english muffins, bagels and pancakes, and there are a few cereals by Nature's path....Mesa sunrise flakes (maybe not to the taste of most LOs, but my DS 5 loves them).

how about scrambled or boiled egg with GF toast soldiers for a change.

Breakfast is the most difficult meal I find.

hope this helps.

I'm GF, and I have things like Free From hot cross buns, pancakes, fruit loaf (the new Sainsburys one is good), Vogels GF cereal, or Gorilla munch. I also have porridge made from the GF oats that Johnsons Dietary stock. DS ate all of these with no complaints at 11 months (I can't cope with his gluten in the morning).

Dh has been gluten free since a baby (he is now 38) but not dairy free. Could you mash up banana on toast or some type of fruit spread/low sugar jam. Also gluten free porridge is made of millet and rice flakes I think, serve with dairy free milk or water. (cheaper in Sainsburys than health food shops). Heinz used to do other gluten free baby cereals (one was millet based with I think some sort of fruit) - they may still do them dd1 is now 3.10 years but was gf for a few months. Thankfully turned out not to have coeliac disease like her dad. Dairy free yog with mashed/chopped fruit.

Sorry post is a bit disjointed - not much sleep due to dd2 - 12 weeks old!

mine are dairy free technically not gluten free but we do avoid it wherever poss

tend to go for fruit (mainly bananas and apricots) and d/free yogurt for brekkie, or free-from cracker type things with jam on.

Dh doesn't risk oats. Advice from Coeliac UK is that most people would probably be ok with them, but only from certain sources. It is something to do with cross-contamination, I think that oats are often milled/processed with wheat in this country. They (Coeliac UK) do a list of "approved oats" - in their food list.
Kelloggs Rice Krispies (and Coco Pops and Ricicles) are suitable for coeliacs. I can't think of the technical way to describe it but they have miniscule levels of barley gluten in amounts that are safe. However the cornflake type cereals (Kelloggs) are deemed to have levels that are too high. They recently (2 years ago?) found ways of testing that were more accurate than previously. It's a shame as dh used to love their cornflakes and crunchy nut cornflakes.

oh (brain starting to work) and my DC have ready brek too. made with goats milk

Cheers for the ideas! I think with being back at work and being busier than ever, my imagination has just caved in . Is the dairy-free yoghurt you're giving a soy-based one like Alpro? And is that ok? I'm still not convinced about dd and soy, but I'll try again and see.

I'd heard about the oats thing - dietician has given me the name of a local GF producer, but I keep forgetting to phone them to ask about stockists.

I'd totally not even considered looking in the cereals aisle! Great news about rice krispies!

onepieceoflollipop - what age did dd1 stop being intolerant? I was under the impression this is a rare thing to grow out of. DD still seems to be very sensitive to gluten, but I can't even entertain the idea of giving her gluten for the x number of weeks they need to get a coeliac diagnosis. We have a GI appointment for her in Dec, so I guess we'll find out more then. But you've given me hope!

Hi

Both myself and my daughter (5) are coeliac and my son (21 months) is DF, I'm also DF, so it can get a bit complicated!

Probably nothing people haven't already mentioned to add, as lots of great ideas.

I use the alpro soya yogurts and the long-life custardy ones (yellow pots) my little boys loves them (so do I!)

In case anyone's interested I'm the Children's Coordinator for Leeds Coeliac Group and I organise some events the next will be a party at St Chads Parish Centre on Saturday 26th January, all ages welcome. GF food and an entertainer there.

Vicki :0)

hi vics....I'm in Leeds, and get the newsletter but have never attended any events....i keep meaning to, but you know how it is

If I make it along to the next thing, I'll introduce myself to you!

hobnob - I'll just to try and explain re dd1. She had a one in ten chance of developing coeliac disease because of dh. I started weaning at 5 months but kept it gf for a few months. When we started gluten she had a lot of pooey/loose nappies, like 4 or 5 in the day. (sorry if tmi but trying to give you the full picture). Anyway took her to GP who knew dh's history. She took it seriously and referred her to paediatrician. Keep her gf until appt came through but of course she had to go back on it for a few weeks so that the blood test would be accurate.
Blood test seemed fine and her symptoms had much improved. In retrospect I started her on too much high fibre/wheat based foods and overloaded her system. e.g. 2 weetabix, or one large piece of wholemeal bread, but because of dh I was being vigilant re coeliac disease. I am much more cautious now re large quantities even though she is nearly 4 and am fairly certain she is ok. dd2 is 12 weeks and we will try not to start weaning until 6 months and with smaller quantities of gluten.
The doctors (reassuringly) listened to me and I felt we had good treatment. Sadly dh wasn't diagnosed until 18 months of age when all his hair fell out and he had dramatic weight loss. In those days it was common to wean much earlier around 3-4 months I think, and give rusks etc so he must have been in pain/discomfort. mil had a friend whose child had coeliac disease otherwise it would have taken even longer to diagnose him.

p.s. sorry if I gave you false hope re "growing out of it" I probably didn't explain it well on my first post.

Flip, is hair loss common? I have my suspicions about my own tolerance to gluten since stopping it (dd is still BF), and I have suffered from hair loss in the last few years. Prob just coincidence...

I keep meaning to challenge dd with gluten to see what happens but with working I know that if she's still sensitive, she'll be up during the night for several nights and I just can't bring myself to do it! MAybe at Christmas...

And she's a silent refluxer and there are things which seem to set that off which I haven't figures out yet, so picking a 'quiet' week is a bit difficult.

We'll get there in the end!

I've only made them with milk but if you can get hold of buckwheat flour (sold in my local health food shop) pancakes with a little apple puree would make a nice change. Despite the name there is no wheat in buckwheat flour and no gluten.

Hi

Yes come to an Event hey're fun and not like they used to be with the dreaded Mr Yaffe doing the kids entertainment!!! I organised a Salvos meal for the kids in awareness week and that was great.

We were advised to keep Jack off gluten til he was 12months (Both me and Hope - 5 have CD) which we did and introduced slowly. The paediatrician did say there's not a huge amount of evidence to say how much difference this makes, as opposed to weaning at 6m+. There's some evidence too re breastfeeding til gluten is introduced (I have a copy fo the article if anyone wants a copy). Jack - 21 months- has just had 2nd clear test, we were worried recently due to sympotoms but he's fine, will just have to be vigilant for the future.

Hair loss is not common, more common in older people who go undisagnosed for ages.

Vicki :0)

Vics - yes you are right re the hair loss. My understanding as well is that it is quite uncommon. dh only had it as a small baby I assume because CD was not recognised very much 38 years ago so took them a while to get a diagnosis, all the while continuing to feed him a "normal" diet. mil still feels bad I believe but with no reason to at all, not her fault of course.

hobnob, sorry to hear of your difficulties. I am thankful that we didn't have all these issues with dd1.

There is (as always) conflicting advice. Yes as Vics says some recent evidence that bf is protective but of course not all of us can bf - fortunately it worked out for me. (mil didn't bf and sadly has ideas about it being embarrassing and draining for the mother but that's a whole other thread!)
I'm planning on not introducing gluten until around 7-8 months
with dd2, and trying to establish other foods first. Although of course as Vic's paediatrician says it might not make much difference starting her on it when we first wean her as long as this is 6 months plus.

Hope this helps.
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My confusion re the protective effect of BF is that dd showed symptoms WHILST Ive been BF due to gluten in MY diet. Is it possible that despite this, BF prevents the onset of full blown coeliac as opposed to a temporary intolerance? I just don't know. DD has never had gluten (now 11mths) apart from the other day when she picked up some other baby's half-eaten biscuit. I think I got there in time! My GP's advice was to BF until she's a year, then start her on gluten and see what happens. He didn't mention what comes after that...!

Hobnob, just seen your post from last night. Sorry no advice re the gluten in your diet causing problems whilst b/f for your dd.
Perhaps Vic's article can clarify it a bit, or alternatively Coeliac UK may be able to advise further? I'm not very up on the scientific side of things, the information I have tends to be mainly due to my own limited experience with dd1 and knowledge from living with and catering for dh. Hope you manage to get some answers. I would be interested to hear how you get on because in a few weeks we will have to decide how to proceed with dd2...
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