My feed
Premium

Please
or
to access all these features

Mumsnet doesn't verify the qualifications of users. If you have medical concerns, please consult a healthcare professional.

Allergies and intolerances

when can I give peanut products to a 2.5 year old when I have asthma?

31 replies

MoaningMirtle · 09/11/2007 16:10

confused by advice

thanks all xxx

OP posts:
Report
MrsCellophane · 09/11/2007 16:26

I can't remember whether it's 3 or 5 (when I was advised). Although aren't they now saying that you shouldn't avoid peanuts in pregnancy - that it's counter-productive? Does this go for LOs also?

Will watch with interest.

Report
RubyRioja · 09/11/2007 16:29

This reply has been deleted

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

hellish · 09/11/2007 16:30

AFAIK should wait till 5 if you have asthma, excema, or other allergies in the family.

Report
goingfor3 · 09/11/2007 16:31

The advide with DD one was to try nuts after 1 but not to have whole nuts until 3. With dd2 the advice was to try nuts after 3 and whole nuts at 5. Goodness knows what it is now!

Report
pointydog · 09/11/2007 16:43

really?

when dd2 had terrible eczema as a tiny baby (started at 5 weeks), teh dermatology unit at the hosptial prescribed peabut oil for her head which we had to smear on and cover in bandaging every night.

Isn't that odd? We questioned it at the time, were asked 'has she had any reaction?', we said no and that was that

Report
Slubberdegullion · 09/11/2007 16:47

DH (a GP) told me last week that all this nut avoidance if you have allergies/asthma is all stuff and nonsense. I did't follow him up on where the new advice/evidence came from though. BMJ might have something, or BJGP....will ask him when he gets in.

Report
Slubberdegullion · 09/11/2007 16:49

sorry to clarify, keeping your DC away from nuts if you (the mother) has allergies is a waste of time.

But let me check with him first before it becomes MN gospel (if there is such a thing).

Report
pointydog · 09/11/2007 16:49

I must read mor eon it. dd2 had awful eczema, now has asthma and was liberally doused in peanut oil on expert medical advice.

Report
pointydog · 09/11/2007 16:50

must admit, some of this nut stuff does seem to be going too far

Report
Slubberdegullion · 09/11/2007 16:56

Here's a letter in the BMJ about it. Interesting stuff. Good research on this seems to be lacking (isn't it always).

Report
pointydog · 09/11/2007 16:57

sounds sensible, slubbers

Report
berolina · 09/11/2007 17:05

Oh, I would love not to have to worry about this. Have been off peanut butter since mid-2004 as have been permanently pg and/or bf since then, and I really really miss it...

Report
pointydog · 09/11/2007 17:06

why don't you eat it, berol?

Report
berolina · 09/11/2007 17:10

I have asthma.

Report
pointydog · 09/11/2007 17:11

Who says you shouldn't eat it though? I thought slubber was saying little rezearch has been done

Report
berolina · 09/11/2007 17:13

I always (up to now) thought you were supposed to steer clear in the case of 'asthma/allergies in the family'.

Report
pointydog · 09/11/2007 17:14

enjoy it!

Report
berolina · 09/11/2007 17:15

oh, I will

Report
tatt · 10/11/2007 00:17

conflicting evidence so major research study underway to provide answers. By the time a child reaches 3 they have probably been exposed to traces of peanut in chocolate, ice-cream or other foods anyway.

My gp said wait till 7 for whole nuts because of the chocking risk.

If you must introduce nuts early then personally I'd suggest you rub some on skin before letting them eat any. Also have a bottle of anti-histamine to hand.

Report
hellish · 12/11/2007 01:54

I'm confused now, that BMJ article was written in 1996 - surely GPs have more recent studies to go on?

Report
fleacircus · 12/11/2007 06:32

Problem with studies into this kind of thing is logistics - you'd ideally want two groups of pregnant women and small children, one group to avoid peanuts etc and the other to eat them. If your premise is that one of these groups is likely to develop potentially fatal allergies as a result of your actions, getting people involved in the study can prove a little tricky. Thus the controversy. But advice to avoid peanuts during pregnancy and weaning runs counter to what is known about how allergies develop. Also, pregnant women in the UK have been advised to avoid peanuts since 1998; the number of reported nut allergies in the UK hugely increased between 2001-2005 (this didn't happen in countries where the avoid peanuts advice isn't given). So there could be a causal link between avoiding peanuts during and children developing the allergy, but it's not been proven conclusively.

Report
tatt · 12/11/2007 07:49

if there was good evidence one way or the other a study wouldn't be ethical. There isn't good evidence.

Who says that nut allergy rates have increased? Not the professor in Liverpool quoted earlier up the thread. Reported rates may have increased because of greater awareness. One study on the Isle of Wight showed an increase.

One large study has suggested government advice wasn't widely followed initially anyway - see below - although asking women years later if they ate nuts in pregnancy relies on their memory and we all know about pregnancy brain.

Where is the evidence that advice is contrary to what is known about how allergies develop? Very little is known!

What happens elsewhere needs to be interpreted with caution. The peanuts eaten in other countries are not generally treated in the same way as peanuts eaten here - and they are less allergenic.

No disresprect intended but the average GP knows nothing more about allergy than what he reads in the paper. People die in this country from nut allergy because they were given poor advice.

  1. The impact of government advice to pregnant mothers regarding peanut avoidance on the prevalence of peanut allergy in United Kingdom children at school entry. Hourihane JO, Aiken R, Briggs R, Gudgeon LA, Grimshaw KE, DunnGalvin A, Roberts SR.

Infection Inflammation and Repair, University of Southampton.
Report

Don’t want to miss threads like this?

Weekly

Sign up to our weekly round up and get all the best threads sent straight to your inbox!

Log in to update your newsletter preferences.

You've subscribed!

Berrie · 12/11/2007 08:07

I gave ds peanut butter a few months before his 2nd birthday and he had a reaction. I really wish that I hadn't. I feel so guilty as I think that if I hadn't done that he wouldn't have a nut allergy now. I don't know if that's true or not, I suppose because I feel bad, I don't like to look into it.
I have asthma (as he later developed) and he had excema too.

Report
tatt · 12/11/2007 09:38

berolina - no good evidence to show avoiding nuts in pregnancy has any impact. BUT some evidence that having more fish and having probiotics in at least the later months helps. I wish the things that can help got more publicity.

Report
JodieG1 · 12/11/2007 09:45

From recent reoprts I've read they say that there's no need to avoid peanuts in pregnancy and breastfeeding if there are no allergies but if you have allergies/asthma etc then you should still follow the old advice of avoiding. I have asthma, as does dd, so I avoided peanuts whilst pregnant and now while I'm breastfeeding. I believe there are studies ongoing but the results won't be known for about 7 years as they will take that long to finish.

I also believe that in places where they eat a lot of peanuts ie America then the incidence of nut allergies is lower so it's thought that eating them while pregnant and breastfeeding is helpful rather than harmful. Nothing is certain yet of course but that's initial findings. Until the end of the research it's best to avoid peanuts when you have allergies though but that may prove to be wrong, they just don't know yet.

Report
Please create an account

To comment on this thread you need to create a Mumsnet account.