avoiding dairy, what about the "milk protein" in Farley's gluten free rusks?

[alibo]

Have got other threads on avoiding dairy and wheat for ds because of dh's asthma and excema. Have bought some of the Farleys's gluten free rusks to try for breakfast, but milk protein is listed in the ingredients. Is it milk protein that you need to avoid with dairy, or is it another constituent of the milk that is the allergenic substance?

yes. i'm pretty sure you have to avoid them if you're doing no cows milk. how is he on goats and sheeps milk products. (did you know that waitrose do goats butter and cream???? and goats cheddar. is life saver).

my ds has been off cows milk for a few months. eczema much much better. but everytime i have some cows milk, gets worse (i'm still breastfeeding!)

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sophable, ds just has formula milk at the moment, have been weaning for 4 weeks, haven't given him any other milk products yet.

Milk protein is the one to avoid, but if he's on formula I can't see how it would help to avoid it. Do they have eggs in?

toddlerbob, my thoughts are the same on avoiding dairy products, if ds already has formula, as formula is based on cows milk anyway. So is there any point in avoiding dairy ? Just seem to remember reading somewhere that formula is slightly different than giving dairy like actual cow's milk, cheese etc because of the way formula is modified. Have heard this a couple of times but can't remember where?! btw, the rusks don't contain egg.

I wouldn't give straight milk on cereal etc. I would use the formula. I personally wouldn't give cheese or yoghurt for a while (I don't know how old your baby is sorry - but about 8 or 9 months is when I would do this). Some things have a small amount of dairy baked into them, like the rusks and this I wouldn't worry about in your case because it's been processed and cooked and generally modified.

Surely if he was allergic to milk he'd be allergic to formula, which is made of milk?

My ds is allergic to milk so he cant have formula or milk protein

Presume yoghurts made from follow on milk, ie baby danone would be ok?

Alibo, if your baby is tolerating formula, given how much a baby consumes, then I can see no reason for you to be avoiding dairy in other products. Regarding the changes to protein in the manufacture of ordinary formula, my understanding (from ds's dietician) is that this is negligible with standard formula. If you want to avoid milk protein then your baby would have to have extensively hydrolysed formula where the protein has been 'part-digested' through the manufacturing process and broken down to peptid level or even further to amino acid level. It's quite foul smelling and generally only available on prescription (UK).

Portree the baby milk you are describing is Nutramagin and yes it is only available on prescription. It smells vile and tastes it aswell, thats why many older babies reject it. Ive made a sauce with it to go with a fish meal for Ds and it turned the food grey, it looked, smelled and tasted disgusting

Alibo - I agree with Portree. My ds and dd were told to avoid dairy until 1 yr of age by a allergy specialist - this meant no cow's milk-based formula (we used soya after weaning at 8 months, but I know Nutramigen is more usually prescribed if it felt a child has an allergy), no follow on milk, no yoghurts, no cheese etc, and no products like rusks or biscuits that had milk in them. We used the soya equivalents occasionally. Basically, if there is a problem, even the smallest amount of cow's milk protein can act as a trigger. Has your son shown any signs of skin/asthma problems yet, or is this something you are trying to avoid?

Nutramigen doesn't smell or taste great but my ds doesn't have a problem with it. Mind you, he is bf and only has it in breakfast but he will have it as a drink too. I think he's ok with it because he had it fairly early on at 5m.