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soya milk

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vivie · 15/02/2004 21:49

Hi
Ds is allergic to cows milk and has Wysoy formula. He's 15 months old now, does anyone know if it would be okay to give him cartons of made up soya milk instead of his formula, eg Provamel, SoGood etc. Do they have all the right nutrients for children?
Thanks

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popsycal · 15/02/2004 21:51

my niece is vegan and was told to have soya formula until at least 2 as soya milk does not have enough clacium etc
hth

popsycal · 15/02/2004 21:51

told by dietician and GP

robinw · 16/02/2004 07:18

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cocococo · 16/02/2004 18:47

DS is 2.6 and we have been given Wysoy on perscription and told not to use soya milk cartons at all as they don't contain enough nutritients. It's so strange having to make up formula for a strapping toddler!!

chatee · 16/02/2004 21:13

try a dd of 3.5yrs still addicted to her wysoy-when on occasion we have tried provamel/so good(just in case of emergency situations away from home)she has said"you're giving me that dirty milk"
please please let my baby due anytime be able to breast feed-not have a dairy allergy(imagine smiley face with fingers crossed)

chatee · 16/02/2004 21:14

ps it's still on prescription too

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vivie · 17/02/2004 14:32

Thanks for your replies. It's really interesting because my HV told me quite adamantly that cartons of soya milks would be absolutely fine for ds now, she just said to use unsweetened. I wasn't convince which is why I posted here. I wonder if she has some kind of hidden agenda... I'm reluctant to mention it to my GP in case she cancels our prescription and I end up buying Wysoy myself (at £9 a tin!!!)- or am I just being paranoid? The only reason I want to change is that I've heard that Wysoy is murder on kids teeth. Chatee - how are your dd's teeth? I'm not sure what to do now...

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chatee · 17/02/2004 16:15

dd had her first dental check up about 2 weeks ago(we moved house in 2002 and it took until January2004 to get registered and that was pure luck being inthe right place at the right time)and the dentist was really happy with dd's teeth, i did mention to him that she was still on wysoy and he didn't have a problem as long as brushing correctly ie:after milk last thing at night, must admit i too was worried but am quite relieved at the moment.

robinw · 18/02/2004 07:57

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jenig · 03/03/2004 20:39

my dietician said that if there was 130g of calcium that is fine for children within their 25 percentile graph for weight. my boy has always been under the 9th until recently.now 5 but only just ided the problem as dairy allergy!provamel was her recommendation in november.I have had to use this disguised as his normal powdered milk - infosoy. used same container!she said so good better than some but 2nd choice if provamel not available.

popoffblue · 24/05/2004 18:09

I use tesco own soya milk for my son it has a good calcium level and doesn't taste too bad either.

sleeplessmum2be · 25/05/2004 01:57

we used to use provamel and add bioforce childrens multivitamins. We now use rice milk with added calcium and still add the vitamins.

robinw · 25/05/2004 09:48

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vivie · 26/05/2004 17:14

Thanks everyone. Thinking about this a bit more I started wondering if cartons of soya milk (provamel, supermarket own etc) would be a bit low fat for such a young child. They need all the calories you can squeeze inside them and without being able to give ds cheese, yoghurt etc, or at least not the full fat dairy stuff, I don't want him to fill up on milk that doesn't have enough calories. However, I'm pregnant now and I could really do without having to make formula for 2 children! (I'm not convinced I'll be able to bf the new baby as bfing ds was such a disaster).
I spoke to my GP about all this recently, and she says that she doesn't know the answers and has referred me to a dietician at the local hospital. I'm going to ask her what to feed my new baby too. I'll post again as soon as I have any more info.
robinw, I tried ds with egg for the first time a couple of weeks ago and he had a massive allergic reaction to it. GP advised me not to try again at home, so I'll see what they say at the hospital about challenging him in the clinic. I have tried him with bits of cheese a couple of times, but he just pulls it out of his mouth and starts to cry - more than a 'I don't like this' reaction, more 'this hurts!'. He's never seen an allergy specialist, but maybe I should push for it. He's gaining weight fine and seems to be thriving so maybe I haven't been worried enough (and that's a first for me!)

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robinw · 27/05/2004 09:47

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vivie · 27/05/2004 17:15

Thanks, I've actually been taking probiotics since I conceived - can't do any harm and may do lots of good. I'm feeling really well, so it might be the pregnancy bloom, but it might be the probiotics doing their thing for me too!

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Loobie · 29/05/2004 23:18

we were just at the dietican with dd and she said dd should stay on the wysoy until she is no longer intolerant or until she is 5 years old.we were also told by the dentist to brush her teeth 3 times a day to compensate and to make sure she has the wysoy in a cup,which she was having already and her teeth are absolutely fine.HTH.

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vivie · 24/08/2004 21:28

Hi, I thought I'd update this thread to tell you what the dietician told us. Ds is now 21 months and has had his egg and dairy allergies confirmed by skin prick testing.

The dietician said that as he is gaining weight well (roughly following the 50th centile) and eats a wide range of foods ordinary cartons of soya milk are fine for him. She said we should choose a brand that is fortified with calcium and vitamins and that sweetened is fine - cows milk is sweet too. We're using provamel blue but she said sogood was good too. He should have a minimum of 1/2 pint milk every day and she said the soya yogurts are very good as they contain lots of calcium too. She said if ds's diet was restricted or he was very small then the Wysoy would be better for him, and that rice milk is too low in protein to be much good for young children.

I asked about the cartons being lower in fat and therefore calories and she said that he would probably eat more at meal times to make up the short fall, and I've definitely had to increase his portions! Funny how kids know how much they need isn't it? It is wonderful not to have to make bottles every day!

My second baby is due in November and she has recommended that if I can't breastfeed then he should have Nutramigen rather than Wysoy. Apparently new guidelines recommend that soya milk is not given to babies younger than 6 months (I posted about this on the breast and bottle feeding bit of mn). Bf may go really well this time but I shall feel better having plan b ready to go if I need it!

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chatee · 25/08/2004 07:28

vivie,
just to add a positive experience for you(and hope you have the same)my ds who was born on 26th Feb has been(and still is)breast feeding....totally different experience to dd so good luck with your babe when s/he arrives

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vivie · 25/08/2004 16:55

thanks chatee! Glad to hear your bf is going so well. There is room for optimism!

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