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E45 amd Eurax-itchy 8 month old going through hell

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forevermore · 22/03/2006 11:09

anyone used this for excema and itch reflief

i am going out of my nut here with itchy 8 month old at night and thinking of also trying Eurax (even though not reccomended for under 3's).

burst in tears last night at 4 am after 4 time up in as many hours. baby acting like been invaded by ants...its heart wrenching to watch. i need help desperately. my referal comes through to peadiatric dermatologist end of April

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poppiesinaline · 22/03/2006 11:36

poor u. No experience in this at all but just felt really sorry for you and bumping....

Dizzymama · 22/03/2006 11:46

forevermore I can sympathise, Dd was (and still is to some extent) the same. I used to dress her in babygros - constantly, even in the day, and fix her scrath mitts on her. The babygros were cool enough not to cause sweating and the mitts meant she couldn't get at the sore spots. I did this for a couple of weeks until it looked a little clearer (each time there was an outbreak). The doctor did prescriber hydrocortisone in a very low dosage (0.5%) which I used sparingly but it was very good at clearing up stubborn patches. I also (thanks to mumsnet!) discovered Aveeno which in my opinion, is the miracle cream! When all other lardy substitutes failed miserably Aveeno succeeded. You can buy it in Boots, it's worth a try as it is natural too. HTH

Dizzymama · 22/03/2006 11:50

Forgot to mention, ask your doctor about aveeno if you're interested, a lot haven'y heard of it, but if you have a good one, as we were fortunate enough to, they'll look it up and give it you on prescription.
Also forgot to mention, tried E45 which was ok, but aveeno, in my experience, was better.

kitty4paws · 22/03/2006 19:33

May be irrelevant, and I'm sure you will have already checked, but are you using any creams that might contain lanolin?

I have eczema and am lanolin sensitive and it causes the most unbearable itch.

Some creams that do not actually say "lanolin" do contain derivatives and also some even very "simple" creams like e-45, aqueous cream etc can contain preservatives that can cause an itch.

I've found that the only thing I can be really sure of is pure petroleum jelly, a bit messy but does the job.

Try asking your pharmacist.

Sorry that your little one, and you, are having such a hard time.

gingernut · 22/03/2006 19:56

What are you using on it at the moment?

PrincessPeaHead · 22/03/2006 20:04

e45 is terrible stuff for excema skin, don't use it. I think aveeno is very good as dizzymama says, also diprobase OINTMENT (not cream) for the face. However if her ezcema is that bad it needs to be controlled before the emollients can help. Also you need to bath her daily before you cream her up, and you can soften the water with either an emollient like Diprobath, or oats. (put a good couple of handfuls of oats in a muslin and tie it up with a hairtie, and then squeeze all of the milky stuff out of the oats into the bath). If she is really really itchy I'd go with the Diprobath and Aveeno on the body/Diprobase ointment on face afterwards (and use the ointment on the face as a barrier cream before every feed).
Good luck, it is AWFUL, isn't it. My ds2 looked like a burns victim at 6 mths with ezcema. Sad

chocolateshoes · 22/03/2006 20:11

Sorry to hear you & babe having such abad time.

Try Aveeno cream & Aveeno bath oil. I found they worked really well. You can get them both prescribed.

Good luck - hope things improve

mousebear · 22/03/2006 21:46

have just joined mums net and want to say how good it is(Well bad really) to know that i'm not alone with a 1 year old who is suffering from ecezma. Have read all your msges and am keen to try Aveena, am using diprobase at the mo but not really working DG has terrible flare ups. Anyone else feel like the worst mother in the world, its all my fault!!!

lindster · 23/03/2006 19:27

my 10 month old ds has also had a recent flare up of excema. We were on a low dosage of hydrocortisine but the doctor has upped it today. Im also dousing him in diprobase every nappy change. On top this this i have found today he also has a viral infection. Hes waking everynight and i just wish i could make it all better. We too are waiting for a app with the skin clinic at the end of April.
It makes You feel so useless!

forevermore · 23/03/2006 21:30

why is E45 so bad yet frequently given out for excema...i have just lathered my daughters body in it all dayShock

i have doublebase is this the same as diprobase?

also been told to use low dose betnovate on dd's worst pactheds and 1% HC on the rest of her. is it okay to use betnovate? i am scared of these creams harming her moreSad

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mousebear · 25/03/2006 21:37

Hi forevermore, i have both diprobase and doublebase find doublebase much greasier and easier to apply seems better than the other, i feel the same as you dr. has given me HC and I dont know what to do for the best, am worried about the harm it could do to DD but just want to ease her suffering. Im also looking at foods, I have stopped giving her eggs and tomatoes as they cause flare ups, anyone else noticed how food affects excema. She also developed a really bad cough for which hosp gave us an inhaler for poss asthma, is their no end to our little darlings torment!!

donnie · 25/03/2006 21:43

WET WRAPPING!!!! ask at your referral appt in april - it was the only way to go with both ourr dds - it is a hassle but well worth it. You would never know dd1 had been engulfed in eczema fron head to toe as a baby.wet wrapping with propaderm was just brilliant.
lots of sympathy - I know wxactly what it is like.

carol3 · 25/03/2006 21:52

hi, i use oilatum which i find the best i agree that e45 and auquous cream make you itch more. When dd3 was a baby and her excema was bad at night the doctor prescribed a antihismanine for night time which worked wonders. Can't remember the name but it acted as a sediitive to which stopped the nightime itching cycle. on wet wrapping and gloves at night i still have nightmares on memories of my mum doing this.

Chandra · 25/03/2006 22:26

We found E45 as useful as applying regular cream. For DS, what worked best was Eucerin 10% urea, closely followed by Aveeno. You can get any of them at Boots or, if you manage to convince your GP, on prescription (I had to bring a prescription from a dermatologist we saw privately, for the GP to prescribe them though... However, we have already recovered what we sepnt on that private consultation if we consider how much money we have saved on emollients)

P.S. IMO GPs keep prescribing E45 and Acuosu cream broadly, either because is ceaper or because they don't have a very good/updated knowledge about eczema)

Hattie05 · 25/03/2006 22:38

I swear by Aveeno also. Most others fail to compare i'm for me - i found e45 quite drying - actually used to make my skin sore as soon as i was applying it.

I would advise giving aveeno a go. Apply it constantly - every hour or so. As someone else says, you need to get it under control. If constant application doesn't work then try steroids out - but apply sparingly - use recommended times a day without fail - and don't stop as soon as you see results. Keep applying and gradually use less and less so you wean the skin off it. Use Aveeno also - as you lessen the steroids, increase the aveeno.

Your doctor should prescribe it if you ask.

My GP has admited that they prescribe bog standard stuff, because a) they are not dermatologists and b) different creams suit different people, so its easier to stick to the standard ones.

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