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Allergic nut reaction, airborn?

28 replies

LargeGlassofRed · 16/08/2012 23:24

I made a satay sauce for the first time tonight for me and DH,
Dd1 has a nut allergy but had a different meal, an hour or so after we'd eaten Dd1 had puffy lips and runny eyes.
She definitely hasn't touched anything near the sauce is it possible to have an airborn reaction?

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frazzledbutcalm · 16/08/2012 23:27

Could she have touched a pan/cutlery/chopping board etc. Or kissed you or dh? Or even just touched something you've touched?

adoremyfamily · 16/08/2012 23:30

Yes I think it is possible to have airborn reaction. I have just travelled back from USA and the pilot announced someone on plane had nut allergy so no-one on plane was allowed to eat anything with nuts in.

SilveryMoon · 16/08/2012 23:33

Yes it can be airborne. I recently had many annual epipen refresher training and it was said there that allergies can be
Airborne.

frazzledbutcalm · 16/08/2012 23:33

I don't think it's because it's airborne, I think it's more to do with nut residue being on hands and transferring that way via touching same things.

LargeGlassofRed · 16/08/2012 23:34

No I don't think so she was watching a film in the other room, the only possibility I can think of is maybe the tap, in the kitchen?
First time she's ever had a reaction without eating it though, poor thing his scared shes had antihistamine and in bed, will keep checking her.

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LargeGlassofRed · 16/08/2012 23:36

She's off to France tomorrow with her Dad, this has made me even more paranoid :(

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frazzledbutcalm · 17/08/2012 08:16

I don't want to speak out of turn, but was it maybe wasn't wise to cook something with nuts knowing dd has an allergy ...
How is she this morning? Chances are she'll be fine and dandy Smile
My ds has allergies, was allergic to milk, loads of fruit, and carpet fibres as a baby. He outgrew everything at 10 months old! He has reacted twice recently, not sure what to, and they won't send him for testing as "it's like looking for a needle in a haystack" Hmm

bruffin · 17/08/2012 08:35

Airborn reactions only really happen when there is cooking or lots of dust ie on a plane with everybody opening packets of dry peanuts and an air conditioning system that then circulates the dust.
Did you wizz up the peanuts yourself, which in that case will probably be peanut dust in the air. I also think the cooking process can also throw minute particles in steam etc.

eragon · 17/08/2012 12:18

I think if you had cooked or eaten the sauce and left residue on a door nob or anything else then accidental ingestion or contact reaction would happen.

if you ground up the peanuts and they were a fine powder and your child was close enough, am sure that would bring on a reaction, esp if your child is asthmatic.
worst peanuts are the dry roasted kind as they are very powdery and the dust rises in the air and settles everywere.

watching people eat peanuts is quite messy, people wipe hands on clothes and tables etc.

the cooking with peanuts means a vast amount of possible cross contamination of your kitchen , how did you clean your kitchen and reduce cross contamination?
we avoid using any wooden spoons etc as they hold residue btw.

we dont have any peanut products in our home because of the vast contamination they cause, however we do have other food allergens in the home.
we use mayo (safe for milk intol child) in squeezy bottles, and have whole eggs in the home, but avoid processed foods with egg in case son makes a mistake and eats something. we can fry and cook eggs now with not problem for our son. However this was not the case when younger as he would hive and swell up if he stood in the kitchen when I cooked eggs.

so the whole cross contamination when i cook requires a great deal of concentration and a little (huge) stress, but has to be done with the two children with different allergy problems. peanut is something that is very easy to ban from the home for us.

amillionyears · 17/08/2012 12:22

There are some people with severe nut allergy who cannot work in supermarkets because of nuts.And some I have read who cannot go in them either.So that may be due to airborne?

LargeGlassofRed · 17/08/2012 14:27

Thanks all she was fine after the antihistamine and fine this morning.
She's 12 and had her first reaction at 2.
She had her blood tested last year and is still allergic Unfortunatly.
We've had satay from the takeaway before with no problems.
I just made the sauce with a spoonful of peanut butter and soy sauce garlic and chilli in a pan.
I obviously have thrown out the peanut butter and won't cook again with nuts, it's strange also has ds had regularly eaten peanut butter and she's never reacted.
We think it was probably on the tap after I washed my hands then she did after.
Will be being very careful now.

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amillionyears · 17/08/2012 14:38

It all can be strange.My DS was diagnosed at 8.We are pretty sure he had eaten nuts or products with nuts in them by that age.We have several children,so we couldnt be absolutely sure.But we know he did eat the almond paste on the tops of christmas cakes for example,before he was 8,and didnt react.

bruffin · 17/08/2012 17:01

Allergies happen at any time of life, my ds was 4 before most of his allergies started.

amillionyears · 17/08/2012 17:07

Had a thought>Perhaps allergies occur,when a build up as happened.So when a particular person has eaten x number of nuts or whatever?

bruffin · 17/08/2012 18:06

I wouldn't have thought so, and the trials they are doing at the moment are to introduce nuts earlier into diet and they are hoping to cure allergies by gradually building up exposure

frazzledbutcalm · 17/08/2012 20:50

million that is what happens with some people. A lady I met at a toddler group reacted like that to shellfish (which she'd eaten all her life). Specialist described it as her body being like a giant teacup - she could eat shellfish until that cup was full, after that her body couldn't take any more and the cup had to overflow - as an allergic reaction

amillionyears · 17/08/2012 21:06

That is interesting frazzled.
which goes against what bruffin is talking about.I heard that too bruffin,several months ago,i dont know how it is going or whether it is working.I quaked when I first heard it.It didnt sound right to me,but what do I know.
As I remember it,they were going to introduce tiny tiny amounts.Glad my sons are not the guinea pigs in that particular experiment.

frazzledbutcalm · 17/08/2012 21:20

I think it's all just bizarre. dc4 was allergic to milk from being newborn. He then developed allergies to some fruit and carpet fibres. He spent 1st 10 months of his life with permanent red blotches and spots all over him. His face mouth and head swelled to twice their size when he was 6 months old Shock it was horrendous. But even then they wouldn't test him Confused But he woke up one day at 10 months old and his skin was just normal white/pink ... he'd never ever been like that in his life! That was it, end of reactions! Bizarre to say the least. He's had 2 reactions recently though ...

De-sensitising might work though, it's been proven to work with hayfever sufferers - our gp practice don't offer this service though Sad

amillionyears · 17/08/2012 21:31

Thats awful frazzled.And why on earth wouldnt they test your dc.I sometimes think we must be in a good area,postcode lottery wise,as we dont have some problems with our local health service that others seem to get.
Not sure if our gp practice does de-sensitising though.

Can I just ask,as an aside,whether dc4 was born normally or by caesar?

bruffin · 17/08/2012 21:33

There is a poster on here who's dc was part of the trial and has home from being severely allergic to peanuts, to being able to eat whole peanuts everyday.
I do know that some people do become allergic to things they use every day ie latex gloves, but everyone is different and some people have minimal exposure and others have years.

amillionyears · 17/08/2012 21:38

oops bruffin.Hope I didnt offend anyone.Glad its worked for them.tbh nuts wasnt something my kids much liked,so that part of it isnt a problem.But the exposure to them certainly is.3 anaphylactic shocks.
Do they have to go through every nut?
My dc seem to be allergic to all of them,and have different allergic reactions to each of them,with the possible exception of almonds.

frazzledbutcalm · 17/08/2012 21:45

million it was horrendous, tbh it's even worse now looking through all the photos ... at the time you just get on with day to day life, but now I look at photos and think how on earth could I have left him like that? Why oh why did I not push harder than I tried to get things sorted?

He was born normally. Induced by rupturing membranes, 10 mins later his head was there causing pressure, no pains, nothing! Grin

amillionyears · 17/08/2012 21:50

Glad he is ok now.And bring young mums,we probably dont push for things that we would when we are older.
I asked,because those of my kids born by caesar,are the ones with allergies,and not the ones born normally.

bruffin · 17/08/2012 21:51

I thinks its peanuts they are working on.I think they have tried it with dog hair ad well. there was a boy on tv who was anaphylatic to dogs and in the end could be in the same room

Ds16 is allergic to seseme seeds , and most treenuts and was peanuts. He has different reactions, sometimes producing huge amounts of saliva, being sick, facial swelling. He had hives a couple of times nut never knew what caused it. He had one reaction which affected his breathing to macademia nuts, which I am sure he never had before .
He did grow out of peanuts and eats them now.

frazzledbutcalm · 17/08/2012 21:57

Why thanks million I'm now 40, had dc4 when I was 33, does that still count as being young Grin