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dairy free and trying to avoid soya diet - ideas, recipes or suggestions please

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Art · 06/01/2006 21:09

Ds is allergic to milk protein so is on a dairy free diet. He currently eats soya cheese, yoghurt, milk, and icecream. Having read lots of threads about possible problems with boys and soya, I'm wondering how I can cut down on the soya products. What do your children eat? and how do you manage family cooking?

Any suggestions gratefully received...

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7777777 · 06/01/2006 21:12

hiya my dd 14months allergic to dairy and soya, he has lots of chicken, ham, veg and baby jars. soya is in almost everything so its a nightmare. if hes ok on it id wait as its so difficult if you have to cut it out

7777777 · 06/01/2006 21:13

i meant ds not dd!

Nightynight · 06/01/2006 21:16

it looks as though your are facing the question of, how far do you go down the path of substituting what you can't eat?
At a certain point it may be better to cut loose, and just replan the whole diet without dairy replacements?

My own choice would be:

  • keep the soya ice cream, because I dont know a good alternative (presumably goats/sheeps milk is out )
  • ditch the soya cheese, if needed for sandwiches, replace with humous or meat pate.
  • cut down the yoghurts and replace with pots of stewed fruit (very common in France, you can now get them at Lidl in UK I think.)
  • replace the milk with a soy free alternative rice or oat based.

hope he grows out of it!

Art · 06/01/2006 21:49

Thanx for replies - I will definitely try to get fruit pots. I think I'll find cutting down on cheese hard though. Anyone got any nice ideas for pizza topping without cheese?

Ds does drink rice milk (luckily) so no probs there. Paed has said the older he gets the less likely he will be to grow out of allergy and he is now 4.

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Nightynight · 06/01/2006 22:38

lol I always make pizza without cheese!
tomato, onion, garlic, sweetcorn, salami are the favourites in our house.
it is really annoying that you cant buy a pizza anywhere that doesnt have cheese on it.
but you can get takeaway pizzas at Turkish eating houses, because Turkish pizzas dont have cheese, though you have to specify no yoghurt dressing.

tatt · 07/01/2006 07:23

you can get pots of jelly with fruit in at most supermarkets now, expensive though. Kids often enjoy making fruit salad or banana/ apple fritters with rice milk batter.

We eat a lot of roast milk and two veg meals, stir fries for the leftovers. We have a lot of broccoli and white bread for the calcium content, rice milk with added calcium but still use calcium supplements. Rice milk, as I expect you know, has little nutritional value but is useful when I don't want to prepare several separate meals.

Does he have a true allergy and are you sure its milk protein not lactose because lactase enzyme might be worth trying if it was lactose? What symptoms/ tests did he have. Don't mean to insult you - I'm just used to people whose doctors haven't actually told them what the problem is or have told them it's a milk allergy when its an intolerance. Makes a difference to the chance of outgrowing it.

Liddl do a dark chocolate biscuit that is milk and soya free, according to the label. Don't entirely trust liddl labelling but I know its milk free as even the slightly trace would produce problems.

Art · 07/01/2006 09:15

Thanks Tatt - I've never cooked with rice milk always gone for soya but will try the batter.

Unfortunately ds is v. allergic and can't even have skin contact with cows milk

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7777777 · 07/01/2006 09:57

hi tatt, my ds was told milk protein allergy and soya at 4months had RAST tests at 12months all negative. his symptons still there has BAD foods. he develops severe stomach pains after 6-12 hours and can be screaming and not sleeping for upto 24hours. do you rekon thats intolerance?sorry for jumping on your thread art.xx

Nightynight · 07/01/2006 11:58

777 what are RAST tests? are they for a genuine allergy?
I once knew a girl who was intolerant to cows milk, and her symptoms were stomach pains.
Mine (also intolerance) are headache, aching limbs, runny nose and general "cotton wool brain"
bit like having flu really!

7777777 · 07/01/2006 14:21

HI nightynite, sorry late reply. apparently they are genuine tests but from wot ive read from mums on here they arent totally 100% unless you have had the bad food at some point in your life. my ds hasnt ever had a peanut but the test was negative??? even the paed said they are inconclusive so i dont know, its bloddy frustrating!i cant wait till ds can talk then at least he can tell me where his pain is, it could be like you and get headache as well. all i know is the poor mite screams constantly and you cant settle him for hours and hours and hours ......

Nightynight · 07/01/2006 17:19

your poor little ds
I had kinesiology tests as an adult. they are for allergies and intolerances. they are also not 100%, but I must say that they were pretty accurate in my case. (symptoms vanished, and 2 allergies later confirmed with skin tests.)

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