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DH wants to stop, says he needs my help. Advice?

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Nimnuan · 24/08/2025 21:29

DH has been trying to control his drinking for a long time, with varying levels of success. To be honest I didn't realise until a few years into our relationship how much of a problem it is for him. Partly because we meet in the navy his drinking didn't really seem that excessive to me at the time. There are sometimes periods where his drinking is a relatively normal amount, but he always struggles to keep it at that level.
I've been actively trying to support him to reduce or stop for the last 5/6 years. He's pretty much always said he wants to reduce rather than stop completely, sometimes says the only problem is that I'm too uptight about alcohol, sometimes tries to hide how much he's drinking, sometimes had some combination of days/amounts he decides are okay but can't stick to, occasionally he's said he's going to stop completely but has just tried to use willpower without changing anything in his life.
About nine weeks ago he realised how much money he'd spent in the pub over the last year and decided he would only go to the pub on a Friday with his dad. Since then he's been in the pub at least twice a week every week, usually more, and tried to hide it. Yesterday he went to the pub instead of grocery shopping, lied about it, I told him I didn't believe him.
When he came home he said he's got a problem and he needs help, needs me to help. That he wants to stop but doesn't know how. He's said similar things before but this feels different. For example in the past he hasn't been willing to tell friends or family that he's quitting or tell them why. This time he's planning to tell his family.
I'm not expecting everything to change overnight but I think it's a really positive step that he's admitted openly to having a problem with alcohol, that he needs and wants to stop, and that he needs help to stop.
I know I can't do it for him, but I would welcome any advice on how to support him. What did you do for your partner or your partner do for you that helped? What was not helpful?

OP posts:
Curledup14 · 05/10/2025 07:05

And please do quote the post where I have been anything but supportive op or remotely warranted this kind of response from you

YelloDaisy · 05/10/2025 07:06

Is there any chance he has adhd or autism. A need for dopamine that alcohol provides. He needs a hobby like running or jogging or joining a gym where he meets up with others but gets the buzz from the exercise. It sounds like a social event as well as alcohol so expecting him to just sit at home won’t replace socialising in the pub.
How does he expect you to help him - ‘well done dear’, sin’t going to do much. But gives him a chance to blame you for failure.

Nimnuan · 05/10/2025 07:06

Google.com and search "curledup14". Shouldn't be too tricky 😂

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Curledup14 · 05/10/2025 07:07

Curledup14 · 04/10/2025 14:26

This has been going on for so many years OP, he won’t see a life without it unless he gets professional support, which he is refusing to.

It is the refusing to get professional help that is so appalling to me. Even if he doesn’t want to, The fact that this pregnant wife and mother of his young child is desperate for him to… should be enough to motivate him to get support

And this has got you very angry… at me?

Nimnuan · 05/10/2025 07:07

Curledup14 · 05/10/2025 07:07

And this has got you very angry… at me?

Not angry. Everyone needs a hobby

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Curledup14 · 05/10/2025 07:08

Nimnuan · 05/10/2025 07:06

Google.com and search "curledup14". Shouldn't be too tricky 😂

So you won’t link
because you’re talking silly

op maybe reread my posts on this thread, your thread, nothing but supportive

Curledup14 · 05/10/2025 07:09

Totally baffled
just reread my posts on this thread
are you confusing me with someone else?

PersephoneParlormaid · 05/10/2025 07:13

My DH has been drinking every day for many years. He says he wants to stop, begged me to stay the two times I’ve said I’ve had enough. But guess what, his daily amount is increasing now. I’ve stayed for the kids etc, but now I feel like I’ve wasted years of my life.
he won’t stop, he might cut down or even stop for a while, but he’ll go back. If you want to stay with him do, but don’t stay because you’re waiting for him to change.

Nimnuan · 05/10/2025 07:14

Curledup14 · 05/10/2025 07:09

Totally baffled
just reread my posts on this thread
are you confusing me with someone else?

Definitely not! But I hope another one of the women you're "supporting" does the same as I have. Seeing it all there, page after page, really takes the edge off :)
Silly of me to be bothered by it in the first place, but I'm only human

OP posts:
Curledup14 · 05/10/2025 07:16

Nimnuan · 05/10/2025 07:14

Definitely not! But I hope another one of the women you're "supporting" does the same as I have. Seeing it all there, page after page, really takes the edge off :)
Silly of me to be bothered by it in the first place, but I'm only human

If anyone is curious, please read my posts on this thread and indeed others and come to your own conclusions

I honestly have no idea what the OP is talking about.

Curledup14 · 05/10/2025 07:17

Curledup14 · 04/10/2025 14:26

This has been going on for so many years OP, he won’t see a life without it unless he gets professional support, which he is refusing to.

It is the refusing to get professional help that is so appalling to me. Even if he doesn’t want to, The fact that this pregnant wife and mother of his young child is desperate for him to… should be enough to motivate him to get support

How on earth is this not supportive?

😵‍💫

Zempy · 05/10/2025 07:37

OK. I don’t know your DH obviously, but from the way you have described your situation, I am thinking a good strategy would be him feeling foolish for drinking.

This may sound harsh, but it’s quite effective with men. William Porter is an ex military man and he wrote Alcohol Explained. It is a brilliant book which details what alcohol does, and how we have been collectively hoodwinked into consuming it.

Buy him the book. But to be honest, the rest is up to him. 💐

Nimnuan · 05/10/2025 08:01

Zempy · 05/10/2025 07:37

OK. I don’t know your DH obviously, but from the way you have described your situation, I am thinking a good strategy would be him feeling foolish for drinking.

This may sound harsh, but it’s quite effective with men. William Porter is an ex military man and he wrote Alcohol Explained. It is a brilliant book which details what alcohol does, and how we have been collectively hoodwinked into consuming it.

Buy him the book. But to be honest, the rest is up to him. 💐

Just went and read a couple of his blog posts - would be willing to bet a lot of that would resonate with DH.
I won't get him the book. I think I've already done too much trying to "fix" things, to be honest, but thank you for the suggestion. It's certainly something I'd be interested in reading.
He's leaning into routine/gym/getting outdoors and that's working well for him now. If/when it stops working he'll either keep trying different strategies or he won't.

OP posts:
Nimnuan · 05/10/2025 11:47

Barbadossunset · 04/10/2025 14:31

I don't really know where DH can go other than AA to find people who are doing the same but I'm not sure if he'd be willing to go.

op, you said your dh needs help, so why won’t he go to AA?

He said he doesn't agree with the philosophy. I think mainly the spiritual part but also the idea that alcoholics are a special type of uniquely afflicted person.

OP posts:
Nimnuan · 05/10/2025 11:52

DoubleShotEspressox · 04/10/2025 14:51

I found AA was really preachy and held on to a hell of a lot of shame around alcohol without actually understanding why.

Annie Grace has free podcasts and tons and tons of free quit lit online that actually explain the “why” and generally the outcome of her experiment is not a dry drunk, who constantly feels as though they are in a battle or missing out - but rather “I drink as much as I want whenever I want”….which is never.

It’s framed really positively and I think would work much better on a stubborn man.

One of the things he's mentioned is a podcast with Tom Holland which has similar themes around sobriety making space for a bunch of good stuff he was missing out on because of drinking

OP posts:
Nimnuan · 05/10/2025 11:57

THISnewbeginning · 04/10/2025 15:05

It's good that he recognises he has a problem but as others say only he can fix it

I left an alcoholic, I stayed too long and I regret that now.

You are very vulnerable pregnant and with a newborn - might be worth having a plan in place should you need to leave

Thanks, I do have a plan. Hoping he will continue to get better but obviously leaving needs to remain am option.

OP posts:
RanyaJerodung · 05/10/2025 12:07

Nimnuan · 05/10/2025 11:47

He said he doesn't agree with the philosophy. I think mainly the spiritual part but also the idea that alcoholics are a special type of uniquely afflicted person.

Yes, not everyone likes their philosophy, although it's fair to say they have helped many. That's why I suggested a local support group which isn't AA, perhaps?

Nimnuan · 05/10/2025 12:07

YelloDaisy · 05/10/2025 07:06

Is there any chance he has adhd or autism. A need for dopamine that alcohol provides. He needs a hobby like running or jogging or joining a gym where he meets up with others but gets the buzz from the exercise. It sounds like a social event as well as alcohol so expecting him to just sit at home won’t replace socialising in the pub.
How does he expect you to help him - ‘well done dear’, sin’t going to do much. But gives him a chance to blame you for failure.

Very good chance he's got some form of ASD, but pretty mild. Stimming, routine, emotions are tricky to intuit.
I've definitely realised since posting that my "helping" wasn't actually helping. Thanks to everyone who pointed that out - I wasn't getting there on my own!

OP posts:
RanyaJerodung · 05/10/2025 12:07

Nimnuan · 05/10/2025 11:57

Thanks, I do have a plan. Hoping he will continue to get better but obviously leaving needs to remain am option.

I think that's wise. It's notoriously difficult to live with an alcoholic, and you have to think of your own wellbeing.

Nimnuan · 05/10/2025 12:12

PersephoneParlormaid · 05/10/2025 07:13

My DH has been drinking every day for many years. He says he wants to stop, begged me to stay the two times I’ve said I’ve had enough. But guess what, his daily amount is increasing now. I’ve stayed for the kids etc, but now I feel like I’ve wasted years of my life.
he won’t stop, he might cut down or even stop for a while, but he’ll go back. If you want to stay with him do, but don’t stay because you’re waiting for him to change.

Thanks. It's not going to be an easy decision either way. The last few weeks has been lovely, but he could restart the cycle any time and there's absolutely nothing I can do about that.

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NotbloodyGivingupYet · 05/10/2025 12:37

Nimnuan · 05/10/2025 06:56

Oh man, I googled your username and you've been doing the exact same thing all over mumsnet. Don't know why I'm surprised.
I hope you get a life but it seems unlikely!

OP I don't know what other thread you've got going but I've just gone through all of @Curledup14 's posts on this one. And there is nothing there apart from someone trying to be helpful and supportive.
You may not like the message (IE you cannot take anything DH tells you at face value, because he is an alcoholic).
You are blaming the messenger because you don't like the message.
I won't say anything more because I don't think you'll react well to this post, but I hope you find a way through for your family.

Nimnuan · 05/10/2025 12:46

NotbloodyGivingupYet · 05/10/2025 12:37

OP I don't know what other thread you've got going but I've just gone through all of @Curledup14 's posts on this one. And there is nothing there apart from someone trying to be helpful and supportive.
You may not like the message (IE you cannot take anything DH tells you at face value, because he is an alcoholic).
You are blaming the messenger because you don't like the message.
I won't say anything more because I don't think you'll react well to this post, but I hope you find a way through for your family.

It was the bringing things up from this thread on my other one while making lots of assumptions about my childcare arrangements that got to me. She's done similar things several times, always to try and make it clear to the OP how sad/desperate/vulnerable they are. Not supportive as far as I'm concerned, especially when I specifically asked her to stop alluding to the drinking problem on the uni thread.
Totally appreciate I can't take what dh says at face value.
But like I said, I shouldn't be surprised and it's silly of me to be bothered by it. This is the internet after all.

OP posts:
NotbloodyGivingupYet · 05/10/2025 12:55

Nimnuan · 05/10/2025 12:46

It was the bringing things up from this thread on my other one while making lots of assumptions about my childcare arrangements that got to me. She's done similar things several times, always to try and make it clear to the OP how sad/desperate/vulnerable they are. Not supportive as far as I'm concerned, especially when I specifically asked her to stop alluding to the drinking problem on the uni thread.
Totally appreciate I can't take what dh says at face value.
But like I said, I shouldn't be surprised and it's silly of me to be bothered by it. This is the internet after all.

Edited

I see 🩷

Nimnuan · 05/10/2025 12:57

NotbloodyGivingupYet · 05/10/2025 12:37

OP I don't know what other thread you've got going but I've just gone through all of @Curledup14 's posts on this one. And there is nothing there apart from someone trying to be helpful and supportive.
You may not like the message (IE you cannot take anything DH tells you at face value, because he is an alcoholic).
You are blaming the messenger because you don't like the message.
I won't say anything more because I don't think you'll react well to this post, but I hope you find a way through for your family.

Sorry, it was a thread about wanting to bring my newborn to university. Lots of people think it's selfish and irresponsible, which is fair enough, but the PP was the only one who went through my post/comment history, made assumptions about my reasons, and then a bunch of pointed comments about my "secret" reasons.
Discovering embarrassing personal problems is obviously just really fun for some people.

OP posts:
Roodlegum · 05/10/2025 13:16

Does he manage to hold down a job? Engage in family life?