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Partner secretly drinking and hiding it

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splash73 · 01/01/2023 19:17

My partner of nearly 15 years has been drinking in secret. He quite often has a beer or two openly, or will bring home some wine which he'll leave on the kitchen bench and help himself to over an evening (or sometimes two evenings).

However, he quite often appears more tipsy than he normally would after just one or two drinks. Sometimes he conks out snoring on the sofa, leaving me to put the kids in bed, tidy up etc... and eventually he will wake up and stumble off to bed. I've found bottles of gin, rum, vodka, brandy, whiskey around the house.

If we need to pop to the shops to get some milk.or something, he'll always insist on going. Invariably he will come home tipsy. Or he'll disappear upstairs for a bit and then when he comes back downstairs he'll be slurring and a bit unsteady on his feet. This happens several times a week. I've gone upstairs to find him hurriedly closing a cupboard, only to peek in when he's gone and discover a bottle.

An empty bottle of whiskey hit me on the head when I opened a cupboard above the wardrobe once, and I found some empty bottles in the airing cupboard when I was putting towels away recently. I've also found empty liquor bottles shoved between the children's games in the living room, down the side of the sofa, and under the bed. In the car I have found mini bottles of whiskey and vodka in the side pockets, and even under the bushes outside the front door. I picked one up out of the car door in front of him one day, and said 'is this yours?' and he said he'd found it on the driveway and picked it up meaning to put it in the bin later...

I've also found mini bottles when emptying the bedroom bins.

A couple of months ago he arrived home at 5.30pm staggering slightly and slurring his words. When I asked if he'd had drinks after work he said he'd only had one. He was quite obviously under the influence of a lot more than one! He walked into the living room where my 10yr old was playing his guitar. A few moments later my son called out 'Mum - Dad's been sick!' I ran in to find my partner with vomit down his front, cheeks puffed out obviously trying to hold the rest in, and trying to open the back door (which was clearly locked). He was so drunk he couldn't seem to understand the door was locked. I got him in the bathroom and cleaned everything up, and by 6pm he was fast asleep in bed snoring away like he only does when he's really wasted.

I picked up his bag, jacket and his phone which he'd dropped on the floor, and an empty bottle of brandy fell out of the open bag. The lid was loose. He'd clearly bought it on the way home and necked it. The next day I mentioned how drunk he'd seemed, and he claimed he'd eaten some dodgy prawns.

I'm need to talk to him about his drinking and how it is affecting me, but I'm scared he'll turn it around and accuse me of snooping, or worse accuse me of over-reacting. He always plays down his drinking, he always denies things, and I worry he will get defensive. Plus he is very good at arguing.

At times I've questioned myself, wondering whether I'm making a mountain out of a molehill, and perhaps it isn't that bad...? The self-doubt is driving me nuts.

There are other issues in our relationship, and I've been wanting to leave for some years. I have a part-time job, but I don't earn enough to support myself and my kids. Separating will be awful for the kids, and I'm dreading doing that to them, but I'm so so miserable and I just don't want to be with my partner anymore.

I'm trying to save to buy a car and I'm also taking on more work so that I have enough income so that I can leave him. But in the meantime I'm hating the tension in the air, the lying and the secrecy. It's really stressful. My family live in another country. My partner is extremely close to his family, who always support him and think he can do no wrong...

He works in a high-paid, very stressful job.

Has anyone else experienced this kind of situation with a partner secretly drinking? I'd welcome any advice.

OP posts:
Andante57 · 01/01/2023 21:32

I’m sorry that you are going through this, op.
I second pps’ suggestion of Al Anon - you will find help and support there from people who are going through/have been through your situation.

HuntingoftheSnark · 01/01/2023 21:37

Agreeing with everyone else, OP and I am so sorry. I was the alcoholic and it's a painful place to be - and also a blinkered, selfish one. Your only relationship is with alcohol. I've been in AA for 15 years and someone in a meeting a few weeks ago summed it up as "you can have alcohol - or you can have everything else".

Please contact Al Anon.

Dottymug · 01/01/2023 21:37

It will get steadily worse. With that level of drinking he won't be able to hide it from his work and he will probably lose his job so don't rely on his income if you decide to leave. Get as much of the house as you can. Confronting him about his drinking won't help when he is already deflecting, denying and telling lies to you and to himself. Some people can live with this. I couldn't and I wouldn't recommend you do either for your own sake, but particularly for your children's.

gerispringer · 01/01/2023 21:43

Yes Al Anon is. a good first step. You can phone a help line and talk it through with someone tomorrow. I realised by sweeping the problem under the carpet I was enabling my partners behaviour. You have to issue an ultimatum and talk this through with him when he’s sober. Fortunately my OH realised what he was going to lose and did get help. We are now much happier and healthier and alcohol free.

TwoBlondes · 01/01/2023 21:45

This was my DH. What you're aware of is undoubtedly just the tip of the iceberg.

We split against his will but it was the right thing to do. I should have left sooner so my kids remembered the good bits rather than the bad. AlAnon was amazing.

He lost his wife, children, home, four jobs, his driving licence and most of his friends. He still doesn't understand why.

He's been in hospital on end of life care for a week now.

Flowers
HuntingoftheSnark · 01/01/2023 22:08

@TwoBlondes my heart goes out to you ❤️

Dottymug · 01/01/2023 22:16

By the sound of it, the Op's Dh is never completely sober, so issuing ultimatums is unlikely to work. State boundaries and mean it, but telling him to stop drinking or else when he is in such a state of denial is a waste of the OP's breath.

1980sfookup · 01/01/2023 22:18

splash73 · 01/01/2023 20:59

@1980sfookup I'm so sorry to hear what you have been through, and such a sad ending to it all for you, so recently too. Thank you for sharing. The experiences you and others have shared on this are a wake-up call. I need to be brave and just confront this head on.

Thanks for your thoughts. My take away from my situation is that put your children first! My only regret is that I didn't leave sooner.

I really do wish you all the best - you've a journey and a half ahead but you'll get there.

1980sfookup · 01/01/2023 22:23

TwoBlondes · 01/01/2023 21:45

This was my DH. What you're aware of is undoubtedly just the tip of the iceberg.

We split against his will but it was the right thing to do. I should have left sooner so my kids remembered the good bits rather than the bad. AlAnon was amazing.

He lost his wife, children, home, four jobs, his driving licence and most of his friends. He still doesn't understand why.

He's been in hospital on end of life care for a week now.

Flowers

My God - your story is my story.

GoddessofWar · 02/01/2023 13:20

Sounds awful for you OP. As a former secret drinker myself (although not to the extent you describe with your DH) I can relate to the high stress, high pressure job and the drinking to manage it. It will be very hard for your DH to see or acknowledge the extent I’m sure. But he’s in there somewhere and there’s always hope. But I can say my life is a million times better when I’m not drinking and so is my ability to manage stress. I’d say yes to al anon and also if you can get support in real life I would. It’s a heavy burden to manage alone and by talking to trusted family or friends you blow the lid of it. Stops the secrecy and his ability to minimise it and make you doubt yourself. Your DH needs to know you know. And if you know I’m sure others will. Especially if he’s topping up so much-he’ll be topping up at work, maybe driving drunk. It’s only a matter of time till the wheels come off. Wish you lots of luck.

thesugarbumfairy · 02/01/2023 13:37

Im so sorry OP. This was my DH. I missed all the signs for a long time, but basically I could have written what you did. Unfortunately it was during lockdown and there wasnt any 'real life' help, not that he wanted it.
He did admit it, and we have had many false starts since then. He can go for months, lapse, then make up elaborate lies
You cant believe a word that comes out of an alcoholics mouth. We had the police round one morning as he was seen in the coop car park drinking a mini bottle of wine. This was at 7.30am. I had to take the kids to school and when i got back he made up some cock and bull story about why they were there forgetting that i could replay it all on the cctv.

He was unable to pick me up after a procedure where Id had a general (during lockdown) because i could hear he was drunk and I was devasted he couldnt go a few hours without it.
There are lots of similar stories where he has let us down but he is trying. But it took a long time and a lot of talks to make him see how serious it was and that we could lose the children if it carried on. He later told me he was on the verge of losing his job.
I am still vigilant and its exhausting. I hope you can confront him because he needs to admit it. Again OP i am so sorry its awful x

BigMandsTattooPortfolio · 02/01/2023 14:18

My heart goes out to you. 💐

This was my Dad’s style of alcoholism - in secret, with empty bottles and glasses stashed away under furniture and in outbuildings and every time you came across the evidence it made your soul ache and your heart sink a little more. He ended up with alcohol related dementia, suffered a stroke and became paralysed from his chest down. My brother inherited the alcoholism which killed him at 45.

My Dad would promise to change but never did. It was too late for him in the end. I’m so sorry to say this, but I would advise anyone in this situation to get out. My Mum was living a miserable life by the end and we all just wanted her to be happy.

splash73 · 02/01/2023 16:44

@TwoBlondes I'm so sorry to hear this. Thank you for your thoughts and for sharing your story.

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splash73 · 02/01/2023 16:49

@thesugarbumfairy gosh what a nightmare experience for you! I am amazed at your strength, sticking with him and supporting him through it. It sounds like it has taken its toll on you. Thanks so much for sharing your thoughts - I take a bit of courage and strength from everything people have shared.

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splash73 · 02/01/2023 16:52

@BigMandsTattooPortfolio goodness how awful for your family, going through that and then losing your brother too. I feel for you and for your mum. Thanks for sharing your thoughts - it makes me realise the reasons why I shouldn't wait any longer and how important it is to talk to my partner about his drinking.

OP posts:
splash73 · 02/01/2023 16:55

Thank you @GoddessofWar you are so right about telling someone else. Since posting this I have talked to a relative, and I can't describe the sense of relief in telling someone at last! I now need to find the courage to talk to my partner.

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Sandra1984 · 02/01/2023 17:20

Your husband is a serious alcoholic well on a path of self destruction, he can get into a car accident for drunk driving , get seriously injured, injure someone else or get caught drunk at work, mess up and get fired. Does he really need to hit Rock bottom to realise his problem or go to rehab before he does something very silly? I believe the biggest issue is his inability to recognise his problem. He needs to be ntervention ASAP and go to rehab before something bad happens.

Helen901 · 03/01/2023 10:45

My husband is a little like this now you mention it. He will have beers in but they never seem to go down (like he has a separate stash). He will open beers in another room or get rid of empties quickly so i dont hear/see. I will go to the shop and he will drink three beers whilst im gone, then his glass washed up on the side. Bizarre. I have previously found empty beer cans stashed down the side of the sofa

AFitOfTheVapours · 03/01/2023 19:47

OP, I’m adding my voice to the long list of people saying they had a dh exactly like this. I eventually ended the marriage and am very happy I did. Being driven to self-doubt like this is crazy making. Above all, trust your instincts and do not let him derail you from what you know is real. Part of alcoholism is to protect the ability to drink at all costs, no matter what ridiculous lies that might involve. You are already seeing a lot but, like others have said, this is likely the tip of the iceberg and alcoholism is progressive. It just continues to get worse.

There are brave and determined people about who have got sober and there is absolutely always hope. However, you also need to be realistic- most people never beat this. Either way, you have zero chance of affecting the outcome either way. Definitely point him in the direction of help but please don’t waste your life feeling a responsibility to be the one to successfully “get him help”.

Arm yourself with knowledge, definitely check out Alanon like others have suggested. (be a little wary that lots of info on the internet is written by recovery centres. They are a massive industry, particularly in America and have a vested interest in massive overstating the success of rehab etc.)

Nacoa also has lots of info on the effects on children of living with an alcoholic parent and I definitely suggest checking them out too.

best of luck

OhIdoLike2bBesideTheSeaside · 03/01/2023 19:54

You and your family deserve better he's a fully fledged alcoholic

You need to leave him and let him clean up his act and if he can prove it to you then maybe you can sort things out if not it's game over I'd say

I'm so sorry you find yourself in this situation but don't do this to yourself or your kids

LayeringUp · 03/01/2023 20:07

Sorry @splash73 I have been through similar and your post brought back the feeling of finding the hidden bottles. It was awful, I hated it and how DH would lie and be clearly drunk.
He hit rock bottom around 12-18 months ago and I asked him to leave.
This forced proper conversations. Turns out he was struggling at work. He went to AA because I said that was the only way back.
He sat down and was honest with the DC (teens), admitted he had a problem with alcohol to them.
He's been sober since, two Christmases, several holidays. There are a lot of negative stories on here but hopefully this shows you can have a positive outcome BUT only if your DH wants that. I wanted him to stop many, many times and it was only the thought of really facing up to losing everything that worked. He has to know that you will really leave if you say that.
Good luck 💐

upfucked · 03/01/2023 20:10

If your children continue to live with him then they are much more likely to become alcoholics.

Bonbon21 · 03/01/2023 20:20

Your partner has an alcohol problem.
You need to put your kids and yourself first.
He wont stop drinking for you or them.
And the kids will be far better out of this situation so dont even think about staying 'for them'....
They need a strong mother to model behaviour in this.... and that IS you.
Dont be persuaded by any arguments he may give that it is only a little problem.... or that he can/will stop whenever he likes... that is bu..shit.
Get the ducks in a row re finances etc..... and TELL people.... you have done nothing wrong and you need all the support you can get.

AnnieSnap · 03/01/2023 20:56

Bless you @splash73 Your partner is an advanced (not early stage) alcoholic. I recognise every little thing you’ve described. I’ve been there. My husband is an alcoholic. Thankfully, (and to my amazement) he’s been sober for nearly 4 years. I love him so very much, but I’d reached the end of my rope with it and threw him out. Unexpectedly, that proved to be his rock bottom (it’s different for everyone). He told me later that he had never really believed I’d end the relationship. When I did, he was devastated and losing what we had became more important that booze. He saw an alcohol counsellor and agreed to go into rehab. We got back together. He hasn’t drunk alcohol since then and we’ve never been happier. Happy endings are not common, but they do happen.

You won’t be able to influence him though. Not with pleas, advice or encouragement. He will have to find his own way. If he gives-up drinking, it will be because he’s come to the conclusion himself that it isn’t worth it. That may take him losing you and the kids. Even then, he may not stop. Good luck 💐

Dotcheck · 03/01/2023 21:04

OP, as hard as it is, you have to say something- he’s driving around drunk😞