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Partner secretly drinking and hiding it

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splash73 · 01/01/2023 19:17

My partner of nearly 15 years has been drinking in secret. He quite often has a beer or two openly, or will bring home some wine which he'll leave on the kitchen bench and help himself to over an evening (or sometimes two evenings).

However, he quite often appears more tipsy than he normally would after just one or two drinks. Sometimes he conks out snoring on the sofa, leaving me to put the kids in bed, tidy up etc... and eventually he will wake up and stumble off to bed. I've found bottles of gin, rum, vodka, brandy, whiskey around the house.

If we need to pop to the shops to get some milk.or something, he'll always insist on going. Invariably he will come home tipsy. Or he'll disappear upstairs for a bit and then when he comes back downstairs he'll be slurring and a bit unsteady on his feet. This happens several times a week. I've gone upstairs to find him hurriedly closing a cupboard, only to peek in when he's gone and discover a bottle.

An empty bottle of whiskey hit me on the head when I opened a cupboard above the wardrobe once, and I found some empty bottles in the airing cupboard when I was putting towels away recently. I've also found empty liquor bottles shoved between the children's games in the living room, down the side of the sofa, and under the bed. In the car I have found mini bottles of whiskey and vodka in the side pockets, and even under the bushes outside the front door. I picked one up out of the car door in front of him one day, and said 'is this yours?' and he said he'd found it on the driveway and picked it up meaning to put it in the bin later...

I've also found mini bottles when emptying the bedroom bins.

A couple of months ago he arrived home at 5.30pm staggering slightly and slurring his words. When I asked if he'd had drinks after work he said he'd only had one. He was quite obviously under the influence of a lot more than one! He walked into the living room where my 10yr old was playing his guitar. A few moments later my son called out 'Mum - Dad's been sick!' I ran in to find my partner with vomit down his front, cheeks puffed out obviously trying to hold the rest in, and trying to open the back door (which was clearly locked). He was so drunk he couldn't seem to understand the door was locked. I got him in the bathroom and cleaned everything up, and by 6pm he was fast asleep in bed snoring away like he only does when he's really wasted.

I picked up his bag, jacket and his phone which he'd dropped on the floor, and an empty bottle of brandy fell out of the open bag. The lid was loose. He'd clearly bought it on the way home and necked it. The next day I mentioned how drunk he'd seemed, and he claimed he'd eaten some dodgy prawns.

I'm need to talk to him about his drinking and how it is affecting me, but I'm scared he'll turn it around and accuse me of snooping, or worse accuse me of over-reacting. He always plays down his drinking, he always denies things, and I worry he will get defensive. Plus he is very good at arguing.

At times I've questioned myself, wondering whether I'm making a mountain out of a molehill, and perhaps it isn't that bad...? The self-doubt is driving me nuts.

There are other issues in our relationship, and I've been wanting to leave for some years. I have a part-time job, but I don't earn enough to support myself and my kids. Separating will be awful for the kids, and I'm dreading doing that to them, but I'm so so miserable and I just don't want to be with my partner anymore.

I'm trying to save to buy a car and I'm also taking on more work so that I have enough income so that I can leave him. But in the meantime I'm hating the tension in the air, the lying and the secrecy. It's really stressful. My family live in another country. My partner is extremely close to his family, who always support him and think he can do no wrong...

He works in a high-paid, very stressful job.

Has anyone else experienced this kind of situation with a partner secretly drinking? I'd welcome any advice.

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IchLiebePudding · 01/01/2023 19:19

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GrazingSheep · 01/01/2023 19:22

*I'd welcome any advice.
He is an alcoholic.
You now have difficult decisions to make.

thefirstmrsrochester · 01/01/2023 19:23

Oh OP, it is clear that he has major issues with alcohol. Major major issues. Alcoholism is a horrible disease, would he consider accessing support?

Edinburghmusing · 01/01/2023 19:24

If he’s a high earner - won’t maintenance and share of assets cover you? He’ll still have to support the children

something2say · 01/01/2023 19:24

I've seen this sort of thing at work, I helped women escape. The fact that he is hiding it - bad news. The choices of alcohol - strong - bad news. The fact that your children know - bad. The fact that he denies it, minimises it and twists it round on you - all classic.

I think if you're planning to leave, crack on. He needs help, and he needs to choose that help, and he may be some years away from it at this stage.

2Hot2Handle · 01/01/2023 19:28

Yes, my DH is a functional alcoholic. What is your DH like during the day? My DH is perfectly lovely during the day, but in the evenings he drinks and falls asleep on the sofa.

Over the years, I have tried all sorts to encourage him to cut down, or quit. He shuts me down by agreeing with me, might give it a day or two of trying and then it’s back to the same.

I don’t have advice for you on the alcohol, but in terms of coping, I now take myself away from the room he is drinking in, if I’m not okay with his drunken silliness and I focus on myself and what I want. It’s actually
given me a bit of a licence to do what I want when I want, which is quite nice. DC are always out ahead of my needs, though.

DH accommodates my way of living, because I put up with his drinking. By no means a perfect lifestyle, but it largely
works for us. I live in hope that he will be able to stop before his health is seriously affected. I hope you find a solution that works for you.

NancyJoan · 01/01/2023 19:32

He is an alcoholic. If he refuses to discuss that or get help, you need to get him out of your home. This will destroy you and your DC.

Pallisers · 01/01/2023 19:36

He is in a bad way. It isn't even functional. What happens if he leaves a bottle of brandy in the kids games and there is some left and one of their friends finds it and has a drink?

He must have been drinking on the job that time he came home with the bottle of brandy. I'm pretty certain his employers/fellow workers have serious concerns about him.

This is a bad crisis/drama waiting to happen and it will happen.

There is no point in trying to persuade him he has a problem. He knows he does he just can't admit it and face it Don't waste your time. Obviously you and your children can't live like this. If nothing else he is making you accept a reality very few people would. The first time an empty bottle of whiskey hits you on the head when you open a wardrobe is when most people would hit the roof. His secrecy and denial is doing a number on you and your children.

I suggest you reach out for help from al anon or similar and some real life people you can explain this to - even your own GP. You can't really help him but you can get yourself and your children out from this situation.

Justellingthetruth · 01/01/2023 19:41

@splash73

get him to go for help
its the booze not hîm you dislike

SallyWD · 01/01/2023 19:46

Yes, he's most definitely an alcoholic. I'm so sorry. I lived with an alcoholic for 9 years (my ex) and I know what it's like. Sadly there's nothing you can do or say to change his drinking. Believe me, I tried absolutely everything to stop my ex drinking but he was physically and emotionally dependent on it.
You have to decide whether to stay or go. The fact that he's vomiting in front of your children is just awful and extremely sad. Even if your children seem OK they will be deeply affected by this. It's just a horrible situation.

BluIsTheColour · 01/01/2023 20:01

He is an alcoholic and sounds well on his way to ruining his life.

Have you never actually just said I've found bottles all over the house I know u are an alcoholic/ have a drink problem? Are u scared to confront him? It all sounds quite toxic not an environment for you or kids to be in.

When you talk about finding bottles everywhere it just reminds me of when my dad was at the height of it. Mum said she wld find them everywhere in places u wld least expect. He used to also get up in the middle of the night and drink. It got so bad he started pawning my mums jewellery and stealing off of her to fund it. He wld drink anything that had alcohol in it. It was disgusting.

We had numerous interventions. Told him he wld lose his family. He wld agree say he wld stop etc for a while wld say he didn't have a problem. None of it worked, he went through spells of getting sober but wld always end up back on the drink and that's when he wld try to hide it. Think he was also drinking at work eventually and lost his job too. This is usually what happens to alcoholics. They are functioning up until a point. My dad did by a miracle get sober about 5yrs ago and is back to his old self. He is a very lucky man my mum stayed around, I wld never have put up with that shit for so long.

There will be benefits you would get that would help top u up. U might be surprised at how much. Go to Martin Lewis money saving expert there is links to websites where u can put ur details in and it gives u an idea of what u wld be entitled to.

Wakk · 01/01/2023 20:28

He's an alcoholic and obviously knows it. He needs to make a choice.

SheWoreYellow · 01/01/2023 20:32

To echo what others have said, he has a huge problem. He’s going to be losing his job soon. If you split up, bear in mind he won’t be able to pay maintenance. Try and get a limp sum/house share instead.
Have you not noticed money disappearing? He must be spending a lot on alcohol. Does he keep all his earnings?

SheWoreYellow · 01/01/2023 20:33

*lump sum!

1980sfookup · 01/01/2023 20:40

My thoughts are with you OP. I posted recently on here about my ex-husband who passed away just three weeks ago. He was 54! Had drank daily for the last 25: years. I challenged him constantly but it was denial every time. "I don't drink as much as so an so" "I only drink beer not spirits" "I never miss work" "I work and provide so I can do what I want" "If you didn't nag I wouldn't have to go to the pub" etc etc.
Believe me you will NOT win this if there's no recognition of a problem. I divorced him 17 years ago because I had two children that never saw their dad sober. Now they'll never see he again and they don't even have a lifetime of good memories - just us arguing over his addiction.

If he wont admit there's a problem and seek help you should part before he drags you down with him. I'm sorry and I feel your pain.

1980sfookup · 01/01/2023 20:43

Justellingthetruth · 01/01/2023 19:41

@splash73

get him to go for help
its the booze not hîm you dislike

If only it was that easy .....

splash73 · 01/01/2023 20:49

Thank you - all of you - for your replies. I'm actually in shock at what everyone's said. Even though I know it's true that he has a drinking problem, it is still a shock to have my fears confirmed.

I will definitely have to confront him about it, as I just can't go on like this, and neither can he. I've looked up some advice about how to talk to someone about their drinking, so I will use that, as well as what people here have said. At the very least, I need to address it to make sure my kids are safe. As Pallisers pointed out, there is a risk the kids or their friends could find some of the hidden bottles.

I am so grateful for your replies. Will do some thinking, and will take a look at the options for money/support that people have suggested.

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Shouldbedoing · 01/01/2023 20:57

www.entitledto.com is useful re. benefits entitlement.
Also Wikivorce and the.gov pages on divorce are helpful

splash73 · 01/01/2023 20:59

@1980sfookup I'm so sorry to hear what you have been through, and such a sad ending to it all for you, so recently too. Thank you for sharing. The experiences you and others have shared on this are a wake-up call. I need to be brave and just confront this head on.

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Lovetotravel123 · 01/01/2023 21:00

I recommend Al Anon family support. It won’t give you solutions as those need to come from him, but it will help you through.

Fireflygal · 01/01/2023 21:09

Are you in the UK? You say partner, are you married?

I'm so sorry - you can't fix this or cure him. He has to decide he wants to quit but he is currently deeply in denial.

FusionChefGeoff · 01/01/2023 21:11

Another vote for you speaking to Al anon - they are a 'sister' organisation to AA. AA is for the alcoholic, Al Anon is for their friends and family and you will find it life changing

There are Zoom meetings you could join

al-anonuk.org.uk/how-do-i-get-help/

theemmadilemma · 01/01/2023 21:18

I've been very happily sober 3 years for the depths of alcoholism. He's displaying classic alcoholic tendencies. I'd take a stab he's at the point of physical reliance given his need to 'top up' all the time.

He needs help. Being an alcoholic doesn't mean you're fated to be an arsehole, but not addressing does.

illbeinthegarden · 01/01/2023 21:23

When my ex left after 16 years the first thing my eldest said was 'what took you so long' I thought holding it together for the kids was the right thing to do. It isn't. I used to find bottles all over the house too. Leave is my advice.

Stickywhitelovepiss · 01/01/2023 21:29

I'm really sorry to hear this @splash73 - and it all sounds horribly familiar, down to the miniatures, frequent shopping trips and increasingly inventive hiding places (once he'd gone, I found empties in the most unlikely places....).

For years I lived with it, thinking it was all 'after 6pm', 'behind four walls' and not spilling out into work or otherwise 'real' life. I was so, so wrong in this belief - which exploded in my face when he got arrested drink driving in the middle of the day (on his lunch break from work), and I then found the HR files documenting all the cases of drunkenness at work (ultimately leading to him being fired for gross misconduct). You should be able to find my two mega threads on my journey of slow dawning realisation here, from drink driving incident to divorce to a much calmer, happier and contented present day.

What you are seeing is 'just' the tip of the iceberg. Sorry to be blunt, but you need to save yourself and the kids, before he does something so awful it takes you all down with him.