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Bigned3986 · 16/08/2022 17:55

Overwhelmed - yes, but signs of progress hindered by circumstances. My DW has suffered an alcoholic dependency for some considerable time now since having a gastric bypass a few years ago. This resulted in a conviction for drink driving, which ran its course and she’s now been driving for two years now. The drinking starts to improve now and again, but is creeping up again, with what appears to be outside influences upon DW. She is seeking help through local services, but all she’s had so far are group sessions on Teams, where she is struggling to have her voice heard. She is also undergoing specialist psychotherapy to look at the deeper issues behind all this.

In addition she is having long standing issues with her own family unit. Her mum is coming over this weekend and being narcissistic, will be expecting the usual fanfare. Her sister is coming over Friday for the day but will not stay the night. Neither her mum or sister will communicate with each other to coordinate travel despite living five mins away from each other (11/2 hours drive from us). When DW challenged her mum during a phone call, she was quickly dismissed, along with other family issues… all due to her DM’s anxiety.

Yesterday, DW had a difficult day at work, for other reasons that she couldn’t control, so by the time I had returned from my work, she had drunk over three bottles of wine. This is not unusual, including the expectation that she would be okay to drive today. I had a chat to her about it this morning and she did not plan to drink so much, but she admits that she cannot just do one bottle and that’s it. More often then not, she will go out and buy more. There’s so many means to buy alcohol near us, both in store and online. I’ve tried to talk to her several times when she has wanted to drive herself to work the morning after and where possible, I have driven her to save the potential risk of being caught again.

She is trying to seek help, but what I find frustrating is the outside influences ie her family. She asked me directly what to do about who her family are making her feel and that is really what I’m looking for advice on. The alcohol dependency is a symptom of all this and it’s really hard to try and support her with all the extra pressures being placed on her from elsewhere. Her mum sees family members as ‘baggage’ despite appearing to show care for her and our own family (children with additional needs etc). Her communication with my DW is divisive and often creates a triangle of communication, which then becomes disjointed and misinterpreted.

Thank you in advance for any advice you can give. With regard to the alcohol, I think I need to consider everything before coming hard on her. I’ve tried that before and it doesn’t work. She needs love and support from all directions.

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Idunnowhyibother · 16/08/2022 18:11

It's very very tough but she needs to agree to focus on herself to the exclusion of all others. Including family. You simply can't eliminate all triggers from life but you can try and manage the ones within your control. Hate to mention this but sometimes you need to hit rock bottom before you start to work through it and it's only something she can do for herself. Anything shit thing happening is an excuse to drink sadly and derailed me a few times before I got angry at my own pathetic excuses. Rehab did not help me come to this realisation, nor counselling. Everyone is different but I responded better to the cold harsh light of day!

Bigned3986 · 16/08/2022 19:00

Many thanks. I know you're right and I do wonder when rock bottom will be. I know she doesn't want the kids to see the extent of her issues and I had started to let my guard down thinking she was getting on top of it. We both had considered separating earlier this year, but I know that wouldn't solve anything. End of the day, I cannot bear the way her family treat her and I'm not sure they could change if they knew the effect they are having on her. Whether that would eliminate that trigger or whether she would find others. I know the answer and am scared of confronting her with it when others are treating her the way they do.

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Idunnowhyibother · 16/08/2022 19:17

Sadly there is always a trigger- and booze helps you 'cope'- you think....but all it does it make you postpone the inevitable and make incredibly bad decisions. It took almost bankruptcy to sober me up and a friend of mine lost her two kids. Some people never do and you have to cut your losses and move on without looking back. It's a shitty position to be in.

Bigned3986 · 16/08/2022 19:57

Not disputing anything you're saying and I've had similar advice before. DW was on a night out with friends a wee while ago and they had noticed how much she was drinking both on that night and a previous night. These were lifelong friends from school age. They have offered to try and support her, although this seems to have tailed off since. I wonder whether to give them a nudge, especially as she set up a support chat group so they could chip in and help after her last meet up. I just wonder also if her parents knew the extent and the risks, they might support more. I hasten to add that when she was in court 3 years ago, they were nowhere to be seen.

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Bigned3986 · 17/08/2022 14:05

Interestingly enough, DW had a much better day yesterday and had no reason or the need to drink. This is what gives me heart, along with how much she is trying to engage with the local alcohol support service.

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Dallasdays · 20/08/2022 22:23

Hello @Bigned3986 has your wife tried AA?

Bigned3986 · 22/08/2022 09:07

Hi Dallasdays. She did try AA online a while back but never did go back. She has anxiety and a fear of opening up, which is demonstrated as well by her trying to hide any alcohol from our children. Out of interest, I plan to go to a local Al Anon meeting this week to see how that works.

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Bigned3986 · 22/08/2022 09:10

Last week was a particularly bad week in that it was 3 bottles Monday, two Wednesday, 2 and a bit Thursday, same again Friday and Saturday. She was clearly looking for approval on Friday evening. Saturday, we went for a meal and she said afterwards that she was proud that it was the first meal in ages where she wasn't totally drunk. I'm taking this a positive in hoping that this week will be better.

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Idunnowhyibother · 24/08/2022 05:44

You are simply going to go round in circles with this waiting for her to change - she won't. She doesn't want or need to yet. If you have children in the house you owe it to them to raise them away from the nightmare that is an alcoholic parent. Both my parents drank heavily and I was told ' but we made sure you never saw'. Believe me I did and knew something was wrong. You can't hide a pissed mum no matter how hard you try. Time for an ultimatum I think.

Bigned3986 · 25/08/2022 06:17

Just wanted to say, I went to an Al Anon meeting last night, best move I've made for a long time. My wife said I seemed stressed and then bought some wine home thinking that would ease my stress. Unsurprisingly, she had drunk both bottles and had started on a bottle of gin when I came home from the meeting. Not quite sure how she'll be getting to work this morning?

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pointythings · 25/08/2022 10:48

I don't think your situation is hopeless, but your wife is going to have to make some tough choices. And well done for going to Al-Anon - I'm a member and co-facilitator of a similar group and widow of an alcoholic, so I've been where you are.

If AA doesn't work for your wife and if her triggers are her family, SmartRecovery may be for her - it works along CBT lines and may help her see that she needs to go very low contact with her family and learn to grey rock them. They sound very detrimental to her mental health. A CBT based approach may also help your wife find better coping strategies than drink - right now her pathway seems to be stress >>> drink and that needs to change to something better, like stress >>> trashy novel/TV show/activity.

It can be done if she is serious about wanting to change, but only she can do it. Meanwhile you need to make sure you deal with your own potential enabling/codependence issues so that you have firm boundaries in your household around alcohol. And put yourself and your DC first!

Bigned3986 · 15/06/2023 15:58

Hi everyone... fast forward to this year and it's all changed significantly... No, the addiction hasn't gone away, but we separated just over a month ago. DW claimed her drinking had got worse as she was unhappy in our marriage. Told both children she would drink less as she would be happier.

Long story short, nothing has changed, but I am happier not being in the thick of it. Next week I sign for my own flat, so the children can stay with me any time they want to. Hand on my heart, I have tried, but it's over to her now.

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pointythings · 15/06/2023 16:13

You've done what you needed to preserve your health and sanity and provide a safe haven for your children. Well done. Keep an eye on your DC and make sure they are safe with her, and act if they are not.

Bigned3986 · 15/06/2023 23:31

Many thanks pointythings. The crazy thing is that she asked for the separation, claiming I was controlling her. The initial thing was a shock, but for me, it's for the best. My DC both know where I am and I will always be there for them. I can't say the same for my ex DW, despite them living with her currently.

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pointythings · 16/06/2023 07:36

Just be there for them, see them often, have them overnight once you can. Your DC will need a safe place where there isn't an addicted parent. They may eventually choose to live with you. Be ready.

Bigned3986 · 23/06/2023 20:00

I am ready... my daughter messaged me yesterday asking to stay at mine last night. I had barely unpacked and got any beds built... but, we got there and she came over. She's back again tomorrow for a night, which is more planned. Just proves that getting my flat has been my best decision of late x

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pointythings · 23/06/2023 20:11

Excellent news. Your children will learn that your home is the safe place and they will come to you. You're doing so well, letting them lead it and not indulging in slating your wife.

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