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Alcohol support

The Freedom Thread - Enjoying the positives of an alcohol free life

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Breathmiller · 02/10/2021 18:47

Hello all

A shiny new thread for those that would like to give up alcohol forever and a shiny new OP. (twirls)

The wonderful Drybird started these thread a loooong time ago and I'm sure many of you will agree that it has made such a massive difference to the lives of those who have read them or posted on them. Drybird would like to take a little break from hosting the threads so asked me if I would start one this time. The suggestion was that we can take it in turns after that which I think is a great idea .

Anyone is welcome to join and post but please be aware that this thread is for those of us who want to give up alcohol completely. It doesn't matter if you are on day 1, week 6 or year 5 (and it doesn't matter how many day 1s you have), there just has to be an intention to let go of alcohol altogether. So please no talk of moderating or drinking at the present moment or in the future, it can be triggering for some of us. There are many other wonderful threads for those who would prefer to moderate and we wish you well. If you decide that total abstinence is for you then come back.

It doesn't matter what your reason is, if you feel like it's an issue then you are welcome. It really is a friendly bunch. I also want to say hello to all the lurkers who don't want to post for one reason or another and say I hope that these threads give you support too.

There are many threads before this so if you are new, do look back, there is always at least a link to the last one at the beginning of each. Every thread is rich with advice and support. I personally have felt held in so many ways by each and everyone who has posted and I don't feel I would be here at 1yr2 months sober without it. Post daily, hourly even if it helps or just dip in now and again when you feel the need. It's not always the easist thing to do but it is worth it and it is easier with a group as supportive as this. We are each other's cheerleaders and underatns where we are coming from when the times are tough.

Here is the link to the last one....

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/alcohol_support/4324737-Freedom-An-alcohol-free-thread-for-alcohol-free-people

These threads have been a lifesaver for so many of us with ideas from AF alternatives, Quit Lit suggestions to why our brains are wired the way they are and what tools we can learn to help us break free from the fog of alcohol. But most of all it's a lovely safe space where we can talk, vent, moan, ask questions, give advice and support each other. As we get to know each other there is also a lot of daily chat about what's going on in our lives - running, books, gardening, yoga and family. It really is a warm, welcoming and friendly space so do join in.

The suggestion to get this thread going is for everyone to have a think of what they gain from not drinking, what are the positives? Or if you are on day 1 then what is the thing you are most looking forward to? Let's let go of the idea that we are denying ourselves something or that we are living less than and list what we are gaining instead.

My main positive (in amongst all the fresh skin, clear head, lack of hangovers, lack of shame better health - physically and mentally, I could go on and on........) is the fact that I don't have the eternal converation in my head going round of whether to have a drink that day or not. I am (mostly) free from that and it is amazing!

So whether you are a regular or a newbie, do say hello and introduce yourself.

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SparklingLime · 08/10/2021 22:24

Welcome, @wineaway. My god you’ve been through a traumatic time. I’m so sorry you were not able to be with your mum. That’s so very hard. Well done for dropping the alcohol despite everything. Flowers

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SparklingLime · 08/10/2021 22:27

I’m also here on a Friday night @iamyourequal. That stuff about being the difficult person is really interesting - I feel that might be me. If you have any web links or anything I’d be really grateful.

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Kindtomyself · 08/10/2021 22:51

@WineAway you've been through a hugely difficult time, so sorry. Great news that you are feeling better after stopping drinking.

@iamyourequal and @sparklingLime I'm here too and the stuff on being a difficult person interests me too. Please share anything you have on this.

Off to sleep now. Sleep well all

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iamyourequal · 09/10/2021 00:08

Welcome @Wineaway. My goodness you have done so we to get through the year you have had and quit the wine. I’m very sorry to hear of your many losses and in such a short time. Flowers
@SparklingLime @Kindtomyself.
The mindfulness training was a free zoom session organised through my work and I don’t have a link or anything unfortunately as it was a live session. It’s an organisation up here in Scotland called Ten for Zen. I found the website for it, but that’s all I have: (tenforzen-mindfulness.thinkific.com/courses/An-Introduction-to-Mindfulness). There is a Facebook page too but I try to avoid going near the F!
Night, I am off to sleep now.

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Adm1010 · 09/10/2021 06:00

@WineAway welcome . And well done on tackling the alcohol despite what you are going through . Keep posting

I’m up really early and it’s my day off which is annoying ! I’m tired but just couldn’t settled . Frustrating . Had really vivid dreams last night. Uncomfortable dreams that have left me feeling upset .

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Adm1010 · 09/10/2021 06:17

@iamyourequal interesting thoughts of being the “ wronged “ person and how we blow things out of proportion .
The friend I’ve mentioned before who I have a complicated relationship with … I’m doing a lot of soul searching about it . The bottom line is I’ve behaved like a bit of a dick towards them … but I think I’ve been blaming them and playing the “ wronged “ person . I’m a little embarrassed and not sure I can fix it . Hell I can’t even fully think about it tbh to start unpicking then while sorry mess

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Adm1010 · 09/10/2021 06:17

The whole

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behindhereyes · 09/10/2021 06:33

Hi everyone, I've lurked on these threads on and off for quite a while and never posted before. I'm about a month AF this time, I've never completely made the decision to totally go AF forever as it feels overwhelming of a decision so I seem to take it a day at a time, but I think that doesn't work for me as it never lasts, and so I think I need to make the decision to give up forever.
So many benefits, I've really been focusing this time on how alcohol has never added anything to my life, only taken away, so why would I want to go back to it.
Another big benefit is that when I forget little things I don't have to wonder in guilt if it was down to my drinking or not, I know it's just being a little forgetful. Or if I have a headache or feel not 100%, these always brought feelings of guilt that I had brought it on myself and now I don't have to feel guilt if I'm not 100%. Not sure if that makes sense?
My daughter was recently diagnosed with a brain tumor and has had successful surgery a week ago, still not sure of all the details of what is to come. As soon as I found out I haven't had another drink. I couldn't bear the idea of not being properly mentally present for her all of the time, every day, in case she needed me. I felt that it would be wrong of me to numb my feelings when they couldn't numb theirs. Also not sure if that makes sense?
Another benefit is that when I ramble I don't have to worry if it's a drunken ramble or just good old fashioned tired!!

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Kindtomyself · 09/10/2021 06:55

Morning.

@iamyourequal thanks for the information, it's just interesting to start thinking about my reactions to things. I've been having therapy recently and I'm finding it all a bit odd but I think it's really helping me to grow (I think it's something I will appreciate more in a few months). However I think he's trying to suggest that my reactions to certain situations and people are not helpful. I was really offended by this as I didn't agree but now I'm starting to wonder....however I do need to also remember that my feelings are valid and I'm allowed to have them as I did used to repress/suppress (never too sure of the right word here) them.

@Adm1010 I'm up early too but don't experts say it's better to have consistent sleep patterns ie going to bed/getting up at the same time? Not sure how true that is. Sorry you've had unsettling dreams, maybe it's because of your soul searching and just a process you need to go through. I know what you mean about difficult friendships after acting like a dick. I've got a few of them. We need to be self compassionate about all this. We're not bad people trying to be good, we're ill people trying to get better. Flowers

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Adm1010 · 09/10/2021 07:00

Thankyou @Kindtomyself . I’m trying not to be hard on myself . I could cringe myself inside out if I delve to much into it . So at the minute I’m just touching on it in my mind . But I guess my subconscious has other ideas hence the dreams!

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Kindtomyself · 09/10/2021 07:09

@behindhereyes good morning and welcome to the thread. Congratulations on your month AF, I'm 35 days so we're similar.
I'm so sorry to hear about your daughter that must be so hard for her and everyone around her. I wish her a full recovery.
You have done amazing not drinking through such a difficult time as I know that a lot of people would have turned to the booze and you're totally right that you need a be mentally available for her at this time but look after you too.
All the positives you have mentioned really resonate with me but I don't think I listed them in my positives at the beginning of the thread. It's very freeing to know that alcohol isn't to blame for my behaviour now. I stumbled getting up from my chair in a restaurant yesterday and nearly fell over...that was because I'm slightly clumsy rather than any alcohol Grin

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EIsaCragg · 09/10/2021 07:14

@behindhereyes, so sorry to hear about your daughter, I hope she gets the best care. Flowers

It's so true about wanting to be present and as your real self, not masking everything with alcohol.

You're in a good place here, it's a safe non-judgemental thread. Please keep posting, we are all very supportive.

Well done on your one month AF.

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Kindtomyself · 09/10/2021 07:17

@Adm1010 is it something you could talk to friend about? I believe that to get rid of shame we have to talk about it. I'm not saying that you SHOULD do this as I am definitely no expert but I think I'm in a similar position and at some point I'm going to have to face it head on to have a fulfilling life that I (and you and everyone here) deserve. Just exploring ideas/thinking out loud.

I saw a bloke yesterday who was out the last night I was out drinking when I made a total idiot of myself. I can't even look him in the eye...I pretend I don't see him. It's dreadful. I don't actually know him very well and there was a large group there but I'm so ashamed Blush

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Adm1010 · 09/10/2021 07:56

@Kindtomyself I’m not sure . I don’t think so tbh . It’s really complicated

Oh the shame is awful isn’t it . Do you think he even remembers though ?

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Breathmiller · 09/10/2021 08:58

Welcome wineaway I am so sorry to hear how much loss you have gone through. I take my hat off to you to make the decision to stop drinking. It won't stop the feelings of grief but at least it won't be adding to them. Keep posting and talking about how you are. As you can read, this thread has space for more chat than giving up alcohol. We are here for you.

behindhereyes welcome. It's hard to imagine how hard it muct be for you to see your daughter go through this. Well done at making the decision to be present for her - and for you. I had a difficult issue with my teenage son last year, and I know that in the past I would have drowned my pain but like you it actually strength led my resolve. He needed me! Needed all of me. And still does. I hope your daughter gets the care she needs.

Sending you both a big hug hug. 💛

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Drybird2020 · 09/10/2021 11:55

Big hug for you @wineaway and welcome.

I am always amazed by the strength of the posters on here. So many of us are carrying years and years worth of trauma, and it takes courage to face it without the filter of alcohol. It can be so painful to look ot in the face for the first time, but my experience is that it actually gets easier once you have more clarity. You can't get that while pissed.

@SparklingLime, was it you that once said "if in doubt, clean the bathroom"? I always remember it as a great way to distract from the 7 minutes of a craving! It's a great top tip for newbies. Gets you through a rocky bit and you get the benefit of a gleaming bathroom.

I hope everyone is benefitting from their AF Friday night. Saturday morning is my favourite time of the week, now. ☕🥞🥐🧃

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Kindtomyself · 09/10/2021 12:28

@Adm1010 oh I think he remembers but who knows I don't really trust myself with intuition. I have been told by my 'd' h that people think of me as always being drunk (he had a conversation with a friend who confirmed this). The book I'm reading is really helpful in explaining this (ie not trusting own intuition) so I'm going to keep reading.
I actually think I have Complex Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (CPTSD) and the would drink to reduce the feelings I was having....which unfortunately would result in blackouts

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Kindtomyself · 09/10/2021 12:31

@Drybird2020 I can already feel myself dealing better with issues without alcohol. I'll remember the clean the bathroom tip!
I do absolutely LOVE LOVE LOVE waking up without a hangover. I went to a yoga class this morning and it was amazing.

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HangingOver · 09/10/2021 12:34

Oooh page eight of a shiny new thread already!
I'll pop the kettle on. Crumpets anyone?

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coodawoodashooda · 09/10/2021 12:37

I think im ready for this.

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Breathmiller · 09/10/2021 12:40

Ooh vegan crumpets hangingover ?
I'm in. Just hanging around waiting on a (nother bloody) PCR test. Crumpets sound soooo goood. Especially now I have started eating wheat again after 15 years without. So many foods I can eat again. I had inmy mind that crumpets would have egg though?

How are the family relations in Greece going?

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Breathmiller · 09/10/2021 12:41

drybird cleaning the bathroom sounds a great distraction technique

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Kindtomyself · 09/10/2021 13:02

Hello @coodawoodashooda welcome. It's a very supportive thread Smile

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Sunflowersinthewind · 09/10/2021 13:37

@coodawoodashooda welcome! This thread is great, really really helped me. So many wonderful posters. ^Runs round hugging people^

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HangingOver · 09/10/2021 13:40

Nope... crumpets are vegan! With the new salted plant butter from Flora....yumyumyum! Greece was quite triggering on the booze front but didn't have any huge rows with DF which definitely would have happened if we were both pissed.

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