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Not dry january. But less booze in general. Anyone else?

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Frouby · 07/01/2018 17:24

I am posting this thread because I really want to reduce the amount of alcohol I drink.

I was going to do dry January but think that is too much for me. And when I do drink again I will revert back to bad habits.

On a normal week I would have 1 or 2 g and ts mon to thurs. Bottle of wine on a friday. Then either a couple of beers or a couple of g and ts on a Saturday night. Nothing on sunday.

Over Christmas (which started for us mid December as we had a holiday) I have drank every day. Never been drunk drunk but 4 or 5 drinks every day.

I feel fat, bloated and lethargic. I want to cut my drinking down to a couple of nights a week. Friday and Saturday. Or thursday and friday. DP also drinks most days (more than me too) and we both need to address our relationship with alcohol.

I didn't drink last night and won't tonight either. And I feel 100% better already. We get married in May and I want to lose weight and improve my health.

Does anyone else want to join this thread for support? I know there is the dry January thread but I will be drinking (probably) 2 days a week so dont want to post on there and knock any penguins off the ice.

Currently drinking ginger ale with loads of ice and contemplating a shower and a cupp of tea later with the last of the Christmas cake (diet starts tomorrow) 😁

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AthenaAshton · 11/01/2018 11:19

AintNoOtherFan - your drinking sounds like mine (has been). Thought I haven't bothered with the tonic - just the gin. Blush It has somehow crept up to that kind of amount every single night. I don't want to give up completely, so the 'teetotal' threads aren't really for me (though they are evidently fantastic for people who are going completely AF) - but I definitely need to reduce the amount drastically. I am going to post more later, but am glad to find someone in a similar situation.

AthenaAshton · 11/01/2018 11:20

^^though

AnachronisticCorpse · 11/01/2018 11:26

I’m doing a damp January. I usually drink at least four nights a week but I’m doing well at only drinking once a week instead, we actually went out last Friday (rare) and I haven’t touched a drop since.

I’ve just been to the shop (after Weightwatchers...) where I would normally pick up a bottle of wine for tonight and I totally swerved the booze aisle. It’s the new me.

AthenaAshton · 11/01/2018 11:51

A bit more background, here.

I divorced exH three years ago due to his treatment of our DC (we have three teenagers - one at university and two still at school). Shortly afterwards, I became romantically involved with another difficult man (um, think there may be a pattern here). Absolutely magnificent in many ways, but also a self-confessed commitment-phobe. Unfortunately, he's also a dealer in fine wines.

I have never been a great drinker (drank very moderately at university and in my early 20s, when I first met DH; then had DC and just wasn't bothered about drinking at all). Since our divorce, though, I have become anxious and depressed (have long suffered from anxiety which has manifested itself in all kinds of ways over the years, and is currently fixated on my current relationship and money worries; I am taking prescribed ADs). That, and the combination of being involved with an international wine trader, means my consumption has somehow slithered into something far beyond normal. I have probably been having about a fifth of a bottle of gin (Tanqueray Export, so the strong stuff) per night. Gin, because it's relatively low calorie and I also have a history of eating problems. Though I've sometimes then just gone on to drink whatever else is available, and sod the calories. Needless to say, this then ends up with me eating crap late at night, because I'm desperate for crisps etc by that point.

I have never passed out or vomited as a result of this kind of consumption, and for some reason have never really had a hangover (if I had, that might have put me off!)

However, I do know I have sent texts to people, which I wouldn't have done while sober, and have made drunk phone calls. Blush I have convinced myself that my DC (3 teenagers) don't notice that I've had one too many, but I think I'm almost certainly lying to myself about that.

I realise alcohol makes depression and anxiety worse, so I know that drinking is the last thing I should be doing (even though it takes the edge off it for that blissful half hour or so, before I then can't stop and feel even worse). I also know that if I'm worried about money, an expensive alcohol habit is completely stupid. It's probably costing me about £4-5 per day, which is ridiculous when I go to bed crying about money. I also know that a sure-fire way to torpedo my current relationship is to become anxious, clingy and paranoid - all of which are exacerbated by alcohol. I also know that I don't want my DC to follow my example.

All that said: I don't want to go completely AF. I want to go back to the way I was before, where I could enjoy a glass or two of wine or one G&T with a friend and then stop. When I go and see my DP (he lives in a different city a fair distance from me, so it's by no means every day - more like once a week or so), I want to be able to enjoy a nice bottle with him. I just (just?) need to break out of what has become a habit of drinking excessively at home every night. I have even started to bore myself with the nightly to-ing and fro-ing from gin bottle to glass.

All that said, last night (the second AF night) felt about a million years long. I keep trying to think of the benefits, but I think I need a bit of extra encouragement from MNers who are trying to do the same. I haven't told any RL friends, for sheer embarrassment.

Frouby · 11/01/2018 12:24

Athena Flowers.

It's very tough to admit you have a problem isn't it. Then you feel shit about yourself, think you need a drink to cheer yourself up and deal with the stress. 2 drinks in you decide you don't actually have a problem at all, everything is fiiiinnnnneeee. Then 4 drinks in the beerfear kicks in and you feel shit again.

2 nights AF is a fantastic start though. When was the last time you did that? Do tonight and that's 3 and even better.

A normal relationship with alcohol is what I am aiming for too. A drink at a weekend or social occasion. Not every bloody night.

You might be surprised about hangovers. I have built my tolerance levels up to think slightly hungover is normal. I can't deal with massive hangovers anymore. But probably wake up 5 or 6 mornings a week at 80% fit rather than 100% fit. It will probably take a few AF days to really notice your sleep improve though.

My dd is 13 and hates me drinking at all. I have told myself she was just being a teenager as I am 'just the same slightly drunk as sober'. However having seen dp for the last 3 nights slightly drunk I have to agree with her as he has annoyed me immensely.

And it's not a good thing to model to teenagers. A healthy attitude to alcohol is fine. Being slightly drunk every night and reaching for the gin every time things get a bit stressful isn't.

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HerBigChance · 11/01/2018 12:56

Oh I've started doing what I'm calling "Drier 2018", so I'm glad to have found this thread. I'm aiming for at least four alcohol-free days per week and making some slightly different decisions here and there when drinking alcohol (medium rather than large wine glass etc).

I enjoy alcohol, but consumption at home has particularly crept up over the last year or so and I want to rein it in. I always sleep better and feel fresher and more focussed after not drinking. Helps with the anxiety stuff too.

I'm not kidding myself that there won't be the odd boozy week here and there because there simply will be. But I'm aiming to make the alcohol-free days a much more conscious thing in life.

beela · 11/01/2018 16:31

I am doing totally dry January to break the habit of a glass of wine most nights (it was creeping up to 2 glasses most nights - but rarely more, unless I was out. So hardly ever!).

I hadn't really thought beyond that, but I reckon 4 dry days most weeks sound healthy. So I'm with you HerBigChance for drier 2018.

AintNoOtherFan · 11/01/2018 16:44

Athena yes that sounds about right although I don't quite think I could go for neat gin! Grin

I've gone 3 nights now without a drink. I think if I can make it to about 8-9pm I'm alright because by then the craving has gone. It's that 2 hour period between about 5 and 7pm where I wanna a drink to unwind the day. It was very odd because I could drink up to 4/5 g & ts (which were my measures Wink) and feel the hit, then by about 9.30 I would feel stone cold sober. It was like someone just drained the alcohol out my body!

I know what you mean about a slight hangover feeling normal. A slight headache/lethargic/tired feeling became the norm.

AthenaAshton · 11/01/2018 16:45

Thanks, Frouby. I couldn't agree more with everything you said (especially about the effect of two drinks, and then four Blush). I think you're probably even right about the hangover thing. Since this heavy drinking crept up on me, I have never woken up with a headache or feeling sick (in the way I remember hangovers in my early 20s) - but I have undoubtedly woken up every day feeling just low-grade under the weather.

I had expected to get withdrawal symptoms, given the amount I have been consuming daily. Thus far, though, I in fact feel better than I have for ages. This may of course be a placebo effect - though anything that reminds me why I need to get a grip on alcohol is worthwhile. I also have a small stash of Diazepam for emergency purposes; I almost had one last night, but am glad I didn't.

I am going to try to eat earlier (DC2 and 3 get home from school at 6, starving); I have tended to put off making supper because I need to consume gin first, but I'm going to try to make supper earlier, partly to fill in what has become gin-time. Hopefully I will want it less after food (part of the wonderful appeal is the first sip of gin from the freezer, on an empty stomach), and it also changes an environmental trigger. That said, I have no doubt that I will have a massive slip-up at some point. Two days feels like a major triumph (it's the most I've managed in the past two years), but I realise it's pitiful compared to what 'normal' drinkers manage - myself included, not that long ago...

AthenaAshton · 11/01/2018 16:48

AintNoOther - I know what you mean about 'my measures'!! My two-hour period is 6-8 PM (5-6 PM consists of looking forward to the witching hour for an hour). Hence my decision to re-jig evenings. You are a day ahead of me, so I am full of admiration. I still have to get through the third night. I am going to Tesco now for low-calorie Fever Tree Ginger Beer. Sigh.

2018SoFarSoGreat · 11/01/2018 17:24

Just found this thread - good one, OP

On my way to work this morning I was puffing and panting up the hill, and reflecting on my weight. Which got me reflecting on drinking.

I drink very dry bubbly.. One 5 oz glass most nights with dinner, often another half glass. That's it unless a big social event. Have done so for about 2 years. Before that only drank socially (once or twice a month, no more than 3 or 4 glasses at a time, and the occasional glass at dinner. Never a problem. I really like that bubbly with my dinner. It feels very civilized, relaxes me and adds to my enjoyment of the meal. However, the calories (I am fat!) and feeling like I need that glass is not good.

I want to cut it out except for two or three nights a week. One bottle a week for with dinner. That's my goal. I'm with you all.

colouringinagain · 11/01/2018 17:48

If I can resist the vodka in the cupboard tonight it'll be four dry days and some wine tomorrow evening Smile

AthenaAshton · 11/01/2018 18:02

Colouringinagain: good luck. I have an open bottle of port, the remainder of a bottle of gin, and half a bottle of Sauternes in the cupboard (locked cupboard, so DC can't get at them!) Sitting on my hands now.

Frouby · 11/01/2018 19:01

We are all doing so well!

Another dry evening here. Tea is ready to go in the oven later, kids fed, ds bathed and ready for bed.

The ginger cordial is lovely, it has quite a kick to it and it's really refreshing.

Am very spotty tho! But feel less bloated. So that's good.

Looking forward to a drink tomorrow. Was actually starting to get a bit anxious about fridays which is silly. Dp usually gets in earlier ans it's curry night and the kids have kfc so we were starting drinking about 4pm.

Because I knew the bottle of wine or prosecco I always had wouldn't last all night I was having 2/3/4 beers first. Then opening the bottle when the kids were in bed. Which meant I was quite pissed by the time the curry came.

And the stupid, stupid, stupid thing is I hate feeling pissed and out of control. I like the first couple of drinks. But after say 3 glasses of wine or 3 or 4 g and ts I start feeling anxious.

How daft is that?

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2018SoFarSoGreat · 11/01/2018 19:20

yum to the ginger cordial!

I'm thinking how much I love a glass of sparkling water (in a flute) and that in truth, it is almost as good as wine. Almost.

NoqontroI · 11/01/2018 19:35

Oooh can I join you. I'm going for a damp January as I've realised that the alcohol has been creeping up and I've been drinking at least a couple of cans a night if not more. So I'm going to stop drinking in the week and just have some Friday and Saturday. I'm hoping that I will lose weight and have more energy. I haven't had a drink since Sunday this week and I'm holding out for tomorrow night, where I can if I still want to!

GaraMedouar · 11/01/2018 19:35

Good thread. I am doing Dry January but then going to a Drier 2018- as I had got into a bad habit of having a glass of wine (or two) every single night. Not a huge amount but a habit - wind down end of the day. I’m a single mum so just my de-stress time in the evening. I want to just drink occasionally, if I go out or have someone round , and not buy bottles of wine for home .
I love sparkling water with lemon or lime juice in it. I do like Diet Coke but am trying to not have too much pop either.

Threesocks · 11/01/2018 20:07

I too have been wanting to moderate my drinking. I spent Xmas drinking every day and don't like how it makes me feels. I don't want to give up alcohol completely but I do want to change my relationship with alcohol.

I have downloaded this audiobook which has been really helpful. I am currently doing a dry January to reset my body but hope by then I will have a plan in place so I don't start February making up for lost drinking time.

www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B074ZHF9WX/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&btkr=1

So far so good. Been drinking lots of different cordials (sometimes out of a wine glass) which seems to be working so far.

Stay strong everyone x

AthenaAshton · 11/01/2018 20:08

Frouby, you could write my posts for me. Thank you for starting this thread. I think I have a much bigger problem than a lot of people who have replied, but if we can all cut back partly as a result of you having started this, that would be great.

DC are fed. I have had my ginger juice. I would go to bed now, just to end the evening, but can't as they are still very much up and about. However, I have cleaned the cooker. I'd have stopped drinking a year ago if I knew evenings could be this exciting. Hmm

Frouby · 11/01/2018 20:35

Athena it doesn't matter how big or small you think your problem is. The fact that you have acknowledged you have a problem with the way you are around alcohol is a huge step.

It doesn't matter what we label something really. It doesn't matter if we are uncomfortable with drinking 2 glasses of wine once a week, twice a week or 3 times a week. Or if we are uncomfortable with 3 or 4 gins every night. The fact that we are uncomfortable with it means it's a problem. And the fact that we recognise and admit we have a problem to ourselves or on here or to our family and friends means we are a lot closer to solving it than just keeping drinking.

I was on the dry January thread last year and what stayed with me was that everyone has different triggers and different habits they want to change. I know I want to drink. I know my triggers are wanting to destress and put an end to the day and a start to the evening. And I also know that DP has a problem and we are triggering each other into drinking.

And I know I have an addictive personality and I need to change my habits before it becomes more difficult to change.

I only ever used to drink on weekends and social occasions and I want to get back to that. And it's much easier to slip into bad habits than good habits but we have all made a good start. Nobody has had a soggy week! We can be damp tomorrow and saturday or sunday. But we want to be nice and dry on school nights.

Soggy knickers will be mean you sit on the potty for a time out!

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Growingboys · 11/01/2018 20:50

Jumping on this thread as about 18 months ago I decided to do the same thing, ie drink A LOT less, and be really strong about my drinking, and I just wanted to tell you all it worked, and has now become a habit, and is so much easier, so KEEP GOING!

I don't want to go teetotal as I control my drinking and enjoy it when I do. But now I drink maybe three nights a week. Some weeks not at all, some weeks (eg around Christmas) six nights in a row.

But I am in control, and drink so little now that I really enjoy it when I do.

I still have to exert a modicum of control but it's so much easier now. I did Dry Jan last year and was on the penguins thread but really didn't enjoy all the social occasions I sat through when I'd have loved just one nice glass of wine.

I mark off every booze free day in my diary and count them up. It gives me a massive sense of achievement, putting that tick in my diary when I climb into bed at night.

I'm on day eight or nine of no drinking this year - I think I've drunk two or maybe three days all year.

As well as the diary, things that really helped me cut back included:
*increasing the exercise I did - knowing you've got a 6am yoga class or want to run before work is a very good way to help you say no to booze
*eating early and then having a bath and jumping into bed
*good books I wanted to go to bed and read
*reading all the booze free blogs and articles I could find. This worked both to encourage me and to remind me that I wanted to be able to enjoy alcohol in moderation, rather than go cold turkey.

*actively enjoying the booze I do drink - I rarely buy booze now, so when I do, I buy nice stuff. Expensive gin, decent red wine. When it tastes really delicious, a glass is enough.
*also my figure has really REALLY improved with this approach.

Don't want to sound preachy but drastically cutting back on alcohol is one of the best things I've done, and I'm quite proud that I've kept it up for so long.

Thank you for starting this thread.

Growingboys · 11/01/2018 20:53

Ps sorry for the essay.

AthenaAshton · 11/01/2018 20:59

Frouby, thank you. I really appreciate all you say - and you are, again, quite right. What matters is how the individual feels, and we all evidently want to control alcohol rather than have it control us to any extent.

Growingboys: I am so grateful to you for your post. I am already doing some of the things on your list. The other advantage to reading booze-free blogs etc is that it's something to focus on when what you really want to do is have a drink. You've also reminded me that I've been reading in bed for the past two nights - something I have done since I was tiny, but haven't done recently because I've been too drunkenly tired to read.

As it's now 9 PM, I think the danger zone has passed for me this evening - so it will now be three nights. I can't believe I have managed this.

I fear I'll become fatter, though, as I have been eating virtually nothing to make up for the calories in alcohol (apart from late-night Doritos Blush), and have now started eating!

Frouby · 11/01/2018 21:17

growingboys thank you for your post. I am glad you have been able to maintain it. It gives me hope I will too.

Am stealing your tick idea. We have a calender in the kitchen we all use. Seeing ticks would really motivate me and maybe even dp!

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AthenaAshton · 11/01/2018 21:21

I am going to do the tick thing, too!