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Anybody got to the point of liver disease? Where do you go from there?

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Freefallingintotheabyss · 29/01/2015 22:08

I'm terrified that I have given myself liver damage after 20 years of heavy drinking yet I'm too scared to actually see my gp and ask for a liver
function test. The last one I have had in 2006 was fine.

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Freefallingintotheabyss · 29/01/2015 22:11

But I'm having constant pain/discomfort in my right upper chest area which I believe must be my liver basically giving up...please share your experiences with me x

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Freefallingintotheabyss · 29/01/2015 22:15

I can go days/weeks without drinking but when I do drink there is no end to the amount I'll consume. It's frightening and I don't know how to stop

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Mouldypineapple · 29/01/2015 22:15

Right upper chest or abdomen? Your liver is tucked under your ribs/lungs so position of pain very important. Also often liver disease does not necessarily cause pain (although it can). Do you have any other symptoms worrying you? Best bet is to see your GP. They can do a range of blood tests. Feel your tummy, listen to your chest. At least you'll have some pointers then..

Freefallingintotheabyss · 29/01/2015 22:17

Thanks for your reply. It's behind/just under my right breast if that makes sense

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Mouldypineapple · 29/01/2015 22:21

Doesn't sound liver related, but you should get it checked out. May be something simple.
Are you particularly tired? Weight loss? Itchy? Notice any blood/darkness in your poo? Anything else changed?

Freefallingintotheabyss · 29/01/2015 22:22

And my tummy is often bloated to the point of looking pregnant. But it doesn't look like ascites...yet

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Freefallingintotheabyss · 29/01/2015 22:26

No weight loss or itchiness but definite lethargy and I just look run down. I know I need to curb my drinking before it gets the better of me. I wonder if it could be symptoms of a sluggish gallbladder??

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frazzled74 · 29/01/2015 22:26

I think that if you are too scared to have a blood test at the moment, maybe concentrate on looking after your health from now, are you having any help for your drinking? Make sure you have a healthy diet ant take vitamin b and thiamine supplements . You should, ideally go to your GP though .

Freefallingintotheabyss · 29/01/2015 22:30

I can quite easily drink a couple of bottles of wine on a school night and function perfectly well the next day :-( I can also continue to the point of oblivion where I've been known to drink a litre of spirits...

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Mumtotherescueagain · 29/01/2015 22:33

Your GP can help you stop because, however your liver is, you do need to stop the heavy drinking. Print out this thread and go and see them. Everything they need to know is here.

Freefallingintotheabyss · 29/01/2015 22:35

I've known for 15 years that I definitely have a problem with alcohol . I still think I can master it which is pretty pathetic really. All my friends and family are social drinkers and it's such a part of our life.i feel like a freak in that I can't master it :-(

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Freefallingintotheabyss · 29/01/2015 22:38

Thank you mumtotherescue you talk a lot of sense x

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Freefallingintotheabyss · 29/01/2015 23:09

Just bumping desperately to see if anyone else is coherent and drinking..yet with concerns about their liver :-/

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Tanfastic · 29/01/2015 23:20

My father had liver disease through a good twenty years of heavy drinking, although I'd have never said he was an alcoholic but I suppose it depends on your definition.

The thing about liver disease is that its a silent disease mostly, he wasn't diagnosed until he collapsed with a burst varicoses (veins in his oesophagus) and got rushed to hospital. We had no idea. Hmm

If you are worried op contact your gp. It's never too late to get help with your drinking.

tribpot · 29/01/2015 23:35

I had an enlarged liver through drinking - I could feel it for a number of years.

When I had to quit my GP sent me for an ultrasound. I found the report recently whilst tidying up - although there was clear evidence of the liver being stressed to fuck (not official clinical term!) there was none of long term damage, in other words what I'd done to my liver was reversible at that point.

Will write more but just wanted to post this in case you're still up, OP.

tribpot · 29/01/2015 23:54

Right, bit more background. My drinking was also prolonged (20 years) and had always been heavier than people around me but not insanely so until the last few years. I had a problem way before I was drinking in the morning.

I was incredibly ill. I have literally no idea how I dragged myself into work every day. It was so hard to walk to the bus stop. I was throwing up every day (bizarrely and unhelpfully the only thing I could keep down was booze! Bloody body). I made an appointment to see my GP, I can't remember what for. I don't think I intended to come clean about the drinking. I was talking to one of the mums in the playground and (as had been the case for some weeks) I was too weak to stand up whilst we waited for the bell to ring. She decided enough was enough and phoned my practice to say I had to be seen that day. I think I had had to call in sick as I was at home when my GP called me back later that morning saying I had to come in. I was like WTF - this never happens. Anyway, I went and he told me later he thought I was dying - I had lost so much weight.

So that was the turning point. I've been sober for over three years. Of course there are differences in our stories - I was drinking every day, you're almost certainly not as ill as I was. But the fundamental elements of the story are the same. I knew I had to quit drinking. I wanted to cut down but I couldn't. As I started to deteriorate, using addicts' logic, I wanted to drink more because I knew I would have to stop soon.

Going to see my GP set me free. Finally I had admitted it and I told him the absolute truth. I realised then why truth is a necessity to recovering addicts - addiction thrives on secrecy. It was easier to tell people when I was so unwell, just to get it done and over with. Now everyone knows - friends, family. Mumsnet has heard all this stuff many times as well!

I used to read threads on here about addicts who had quit and how much better they felt and think 'well I couldn't do what they did'. I thought that right up til the day I did it too. Obviously recovery is a process, not a state - I will always be in recovery and three years is actually quite a short time (doesn't feel like it when people are bitching about doing the January Dryathlon on Facebook and complaining about how hard it is Wink).

The book that really helped me was this one. Totally non-judgemental, it eschews the term alcoholic in favour of problem drinker. You are certainly a problem drinker.

There's no better time to start than right now. Your liver is in a better state now than it ever will be again, if you don't take action. Get yourself to the GP - you will never, ever regret it. Good luck.

Freefallingintotheabyss · 30/01/2015 00:28

Tribpot thank you. Of course I am still up.. I'ma drinker :-( :-(I'm anxious about seeing gp as I have 3 children and I'm under antidepressants due to "post natal depression/suicidal ideation"

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Freefallingintotheabyss · 30/01/2015 00:33

Just a little bit paranoid that gp will bring in social services once I explain my drinking habits:-( my kids are clean. They are loved. They are always put first. I go out of my way to ensure their comfort/ stimulation and happiness. It's once they are asleep...that I drink

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Freefallingintotheabyss · 30/01/2015 00:35

Feeling shitty that I am having to justify my parenting skills. :-/

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tribpot · 30/01/2015 00:41

Are you living in some mythical borough where Social Services are massively overfunded and basically sit about all day looking for less-than-perfect parents to cage up and ship off? No. Yes, I suppose it is possible that your GP could mention concerns about the children to SS. It is possible they might come round to see you. But doing nothing about your drinking does not improve the situation, it only masks it.

Freefallingintotheabyss · 30/01/2015 00:43

Bumping this just for traffic flow...anybody still up? Or just me? :-( feeling crap just for staying awake later than is supposedly normal. Must be a typical alchy as not thinking about tomorrow. Just now :-s

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Freefallingintotheabyss · 30/01/2015 00:48

Tribpot. You are right. I am being paranoid. Only because I work for social services myself. I recognise the referral points..

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Freefallingintotheabyss · 30/01/2015 00:49

I know the best thing I should do right now is go to bed. And not raid the hard stuff...

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Freefallingintotheabyss · 30/01/2015 00:58

I'm too in love with the feeling of absent ness:-/ I would drift until oblivion given half a chance:-(

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Mumtotherescueagain · 30/01/2015 08:05

But you love your kids, your own health, your ability to parent them for another 50 years more don't you? Drinking like you are doing risks all that.

Nobody is saying this will be easy but dying of alcoholic liver disease is about as hard as it gets. Seize the day Op and see your GP. You won't regret it and Tribpot is spot on - right now, today is as good as your liver will get. It can only get worse and you don't want that to happen.