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MummaClemmie · 11/07/2025 23:53

Hello 👋

i have been thinking about applying to adopt for about 6 years. I would prefer to adopt than foster and make that life long commitment to a child but have been told the matching processes can be easier starting with fostering and then adopting a child who is placed with you.

It’s just me and my 8yo but I have a strong support network and am financially stable, nice house, no debt and a lot of time and love to give. I know some people have views on adopting with a birth child, especially as a single carer but my son has an understanding of what adoption and fostering means as we have discussed it (age appropriate) as he has been growing up, due to the nature of my job.

What are people’s experiences of adoption with or without birth child? Did you adopt or start with fostering then adopt? How intrusive was the process?

so many questions before I take next step to make sure we are ready but also we are the right ppl to offer adoption.

all advice appreciated. Thank you

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Jellycatspyjamas · 12/07/2025 09:38

It’s not particularly easier to be assessed for fostering and then move to adoption. The vast majority of children who are fostered are reunited with their birth families so it’s not a given that a child placed with you would be suitable for adoption.

You sound like you’re in a good position to adopt, in terms of finances have a think about adoption leave - most agencies will ask you to take at least a year - and whether your job is sufficiently flexible that you could go part time if an adopted child needed you to.

Adopting alone is absolutely fine and they’ll assess you and your child as part of the process. The assessment process for both fostering and adoption is very intrusive because it needs to be. A good relationship with your social worker will help with that, but it’s really just something to get through.

Ted27 · 12/07/2025 14:54

Hi @MummaClemmie

Im a single adopter and have been fostering for the last 18 months.
Speaking as a foster carer I have seen precious little in the way of matching. Children come into care often in emergency situations and it is often who has a bed available for them to sleep in.
There is no guarantee that you would be able to adopt a child that you foster.
There is a scheme called Foster to Adopt which is intended to reduce the number of moves for the children. The court processes will be ongoing and it may be decided that the child will return to family. During that time you would be expected to take the child to contact with the family, which can often be several times a week and sometimes every day with babies.
On fostering in general, to state the obvious, the child is not yours. You do have delegated authority for some things, but your obligations can be heavy. This includes facilitating family time, medical appointments, reviews, social worker meetings.
The needs of your child will always be secondary. If family time for a foster child clashes with your son's footie club, or a party invite, the foster child comes first.
The thorney issue of finances. Despite what some people think fosters carers are not angels living off fairy dust and fresh air. Foster carer pay is generally quite dreadful. The only foster carers I know who dont have a second source of income ( ie a partner) have multiple children. One of my friends currently has 3 under 2 and another hard 4 under 10.
I foster teens which is a bit different but I would really struggle to work outside of the home as well. I waited to foster until my mortgage was paid off and my son had some financial independence - hes a student and has a part time job.
You dont say what your job is but I really would think again about whether your son does understand adoption and fostering. Adoption is easier to get your head around. Fostering is very different and what you may be underestimating for him is the emotional toll of children coming and leaving.
My advice is if you want to adopt, then adopt but dont see fostering as a sideways route.

Oshaghennesey · 12/07/2025 18:32

I think what you have been advised is early permanence. Which isn't the same as fostering.

You'd still apply to adopt and go through the adoption process, but then be matched with a child who hasn't got a plan of adoption just yet. You would take care of them as if you were their foster parent, which would a lot of the time involve taking them to contact sessions with birth family, the plan would be for them to be reunited with birth family, and if that isn't possible then they'd stay with you and you'd go on to adopt them. But that doesn't always happen.

Torvy · 18/07/2025 06:14

You say "some people have views on adopting with a birth child, especially as a single carer" in a way that seems slightly dismissive, and I'm interested in this. Who has said that? And why do you feel you don't need to listen to them? I'm not saying you are wrong, but throughout the adoption process I've found it's easy to dismiss the concerns of other people if they don't quite agree with your position, only to find they actually had quite a valid concern, or lived experience or whatever.

I speak only as quite a headstrong person myself, who was told quite a few things that, upon reflection, were right, and had I listened or at least understood their perspective, it could have given me some valuable insight.

To be considered for adoption, sometimes I think it's funny because you need to be proven quite successful in many areas- socially, financially, emotionally, intellectually in order to get through the process. However, the things that often go with this success (determination, sometimes pig headedness, rising above all challenges, belief that one knows best and powering on through like a bulldozer etc) are the ones that mean we ignore, dismiss or diminish advice, especially if we don't feel that it fits our world view. You sound quite successful- to be a single parent and financially and emotionally comfortable enough to be considering another child, to be independent to such a level, demonstrates your success. Those characteristics are to be admired. But I would also suspect you have had to fly in the face of people who, possibly brazenly, possibly subconsciously, suggested your life would be easier or better if you were partnered. And you might be quite (rightly!) be used to saying sod off, I know what's best for me. And that's fine, for the most part, because adopters need to be ballsy and pushy in order to advocate for their child and themselves. However, I do have a few thoughts.

I remember being outraged by a social worker who said I shouldn't even think about adopting siblings who had not lived together previously because they would always be anxious around each other, fight and never truly settle. Ultimately, I genuinely believe we were right to adopt the kids we have... And yet their relationship with each other remains one of the defining factors of their lives, characterised by anxiety, yet deeply misunderstood by the professionals working with them because a sibling bond and attachment is not a particularly common one to work with in the same way that parental attachment is. It is only after nearly 2 years of work in therapy that anyone has even mentioned their relationship with each other, which we considered to be one of the fundamental parts of their lives. There is precious little support about kids in our situation, and so we have had to make do and mend, adapt advice about blending step families with trauma informed practice and adoption practice with what we know about them etc. It's a whole thing.

And so, when you have people saying things like that to you, I would always consider the provenance of their opinions. Are they experienced adopters, social workers, adoption specialist therapists, or an adoptee themselves? Or is it some random acquaintance who has never met an adoptive family, who wouldn't understand the nuances of the situation and thinks all adoptees should be grateful for a family (lolololol)? I'm not saying the experts are always right- my kids are a proper little team now, and I have no regrets about it, but I would say that, looking back on it, that old battle axe social worker had a point. We glossed over it, dismissed it as an outrageously inhumane thing to say (siblings! Together! Family! Reunited!)... And yet her concerns held water, and she was right. Our lives, and our boys lives, are not always made easier by a very complex sibling relationship that has little precedence in even the adoption arena. Our lives are richer, more satisfying, more energetic, funnier and infinitely better because we have both of them, but it is not easy, and I wish I had looked past my own outrage to look at what her concerns were in order to make a properly informed judgement about the level of support that was available for this specific issue. It has been difficult to be continually dismissed by those who know nothing and say "all siblings do that", and to be dismissed by those who know something, who say "the primary caregiver bond is the only thing that matters" and those who know a lot... Well, when I've found them I'll let you know!

So what I'm saying is, you know your situation, but don't dismiss out of hand concerns that people raise. It may not be kind in the way they say it, or feel pleasant, and might not be a reason to stop, but it might ultimately be a reason to pause and consider. That battle axe social worker is the reason we felt able to handle it when the kids were physically fighting so badly that they bled- we had done such a a deep dive into why we thought she was wrong, researched how little information there really was about this and then formulated our own plan with the therapist to reduce the emotional and physical harm that we felt as prepared as it was possible to be.

I'm happy to pontificate further about adopting with a birth child, despite not having done it myself (because why not, what else is the internet for, eh?) but this is what I mean about checking credentials. My experience is only relevant for certain aspects of your story, and whilst you could draw upon it more than, say, someone who had a new baby sibling, there is less to be gained from it. But you might find a nugget in my comments that is applicable to your situation.

I would strongly advise that you go to a few adoption events where you can speak to a social worker about the process, and about the implications adoption with a birth child might have for you, the BC and the AC.

However, off the top of my head, these are the questions I would be asking myself:

How does my BC deal with children who show unwanted behaviour? Would that change if the other child was in their space or in their territory?

Could my BC handle not being the centre of attention for long periods of time?

Would BC feel rejected or left out if I had to take AC to appointments, introductions, transition sessions etc? Especially if they weren't invited?

How does BCs story and narrative compare to ACs? Are there similarities that might make them worried or scared?

How much of a support network does BC have, and would you be willing for them to use it extensively? (They might have a great relationship with grandparents but would you truly be happy if they were significantly dependent on them for emotional support if you were all tied up with AC?)

How are you going to prioritise your relationship with BC? Especially if things are tricky with AC? I'm talking practicalities here- is your support network able to cope with looking after tricky children? And even if they can, is one dedicated bonding activity a month with BC really going to cut it if the two of them don't get along and you have to focus on AC most of the time?

Are there any factors at play with BC and wider family? I.e you say you are single, but there must be a BF in the narrative somewhere. So would this cause any issues either way- either jealousy of an absent father from AC (why does your BC get to go with dad every weekend when I can't, why don't I get to have a dad) or from BC (why does AC get all the attention for not having a dad, I wish I didn't have one/didn't have to see them/am jealous you and AC spend time together when I'm with my dad) etc. Kids aren't always logical, and also are incredibly tactless. I'm in a SS relationship, and my two have recently started yelling "daddy, save me!' whenever they jump off the sofa onto the floor, then saying "you can't save me, you're not the daddy!', because they saw a cartoon of a sinking ship somewhere on their tablets with a daddy who rescued his kids. (Something to do with the the titanic) The therapist reckons they are processing abandonment, I think they find the very idea of me being a daddy hilarious, my mother is aghast that they aren't more sensitive and realise they 'don't have a daddy", which they do. And don't. And they have 3 mummies. But only two who live with them. Actually only 1 because I'm mama. Queer adoptive families can play fast and loose with stuff like that I guess. We have a dark sense of humour, so I bought a big fan that says daddy and I fan myself dramatically saying 'but my fans say I'm daddy!' and then rescue them anyway. However, this mainly works because neither of them are more sensitive about it than the other, we all have a weird sense of humour, and factually, there isn't a daddy in the house, it's all play. It wouldn't work if one of them was actually seeing a daddy every weekend, if you see what I mean.

Are you planning on a gender difference? Why or why not? Worth putting your thoughts in order.

Does BC have any other factors at play that might disrupt equity between them (SEND, confidence issues, dual nationality, step family, physical strength, health concerns, friendship issues etc) that might make them significantly different to AC?

I'm sure I've heard of support groups for BC actually .. that might be worth researching, but again it's about recognising your BC will be given an identity as the sibling of an adopted person, which has a specific set of challenges, and a lifelong commitment you are making for them to be a part of this minority group with possibly not very widely recognised (and sometimes socially inadmissible) feelings. Your kid might feel quite guilty about saying they don't like their adopted sibling much because all they do is ruin their stuff and argue with them, or feel jealous that they don't have your attention more, or whatever problems siblings usually have. But the problems have the potential to be exacerbated because.... Well, because trauma. They might find it difficult to admit these feelings to you because you are the one driving the adoption forward, but also because they might be excited about having a sibling, and love them very much, but not like how they do xyz. I'm not saying this is every experience, because there are many adopters on here who have BC and AC and it's a breeze, but I do know of some families who have really struggled with this, particularly if the AC is old enough, and has agency enough to cause problems for BC. 8 years old and a 1 year old sounds like a decent gap, and tracks well in that at 8years old, BC will be 16 and firmly in the next stage of life with no comparisons. An 8 year old and a traumatised 5 year old could be more tricky, for example, because good lord 5 year olds can be really annoying, and a badly handled broken Lego set at an inopportune moment has the potential to trigger a lifetime of resentment at the injustice of it all.

You have a lot to think about, and as ever, I would advise going through these boards and seeing what challenges other people have brought up, what reflections you can make about them and use it as a springboard into understanding your own situation. You won't be ready yet, because you haven't been through the process, but you will only ever know if it is the right choice by starting.

Formby · 18/07/2025 10:47

From a fostering perspective- the assessment is quite thorough and takes approximately 6/7 months. It involves initial training and looking at all aspects of your life and past and present relationships.
Once approved you will wait for a call to take a child, which can literally be anytime and the child will most often arrive within a couple of hours. It’s instant so it would help you if you have a good idea of the age range you wish to foster and any needs you are comfortable with (although this isn’t always known at that first call).
The child will have contact with their family and you will take them to this and to any health appointments they may have. There are quite a number of meetings you need to go to. Your own child will need to fit in around these arrangements. I imagine It will be difficult for you to work outside of the home as a single carer, unless your role is flexible. A young child will not go into childcare unless an age related nursery place.
Foster to adopt is a way a child who most likely the outcome in the future is felt it could be adoption is initially placed under a fostering arrangement until assessments of birth family are completed. If adoption is the final outcome then the child will remain with the fostering family and then be adopted by them. It is by no means certain, many things change during the assessments and I imagine difficult to navigate.
Its unusual under a straight fostering situation for a child to be adopted by their foster carer.
I would look into both fostering and adoption from the view point of your child, maybe going to open evenings and having initial conversations with social workers. This may help you to decide which way you should go.
Good luck with your journey.

Ted27 · 18/07/2025 13:46

@Torvy

That was epic even by your standards !!

Torvy · 18/07/2025 22:05

@Ted27 you are too kind. An end of term sleep regression (kids) and anxiety induced insomnia (me) mean that I once again feel moved to give well meaning advice and humorous anecdotes to people online whilst studiously ignoring the growing pile of paperwork and marking I'm supposed to be doing.

Social workers warned me about that too, but I guess I wasn't listening to that either! 😂

MummaClemmie · 09/09/2025 22:35

Torvy · 18/07/2025 06:14

You say "some people have views on adopting with a birth child, especially as a single carer" in a way that seems slightly dismissive, and I'm interested in this. Who has said that? And why do you feel you don't need to listen to them? I'm not saying you are wrong, but throughout the adoption process I've found it's easy to dismiss the concerns of other people if they don't quite agree with your position, only to find they actually had quite a valid concern, or lived experience or whatever.

I speak only as quite a headstrong person myself, who was told quite a few things that, upon reflection, were right, and had I listened or at least understood their perspective, it could have given me some valuable insight.

To be considered for adoption, sometimes I think it's funny because you need to be proven quite successful in many areas- socially, financially, emotionally, intellectually in order to get through the process. However, the things that often go with this success (determination, sometimes pig headedness, rising above all challenges, belief that one knows best and powering on through like a bulldozer etc) are the ones that mean we ignore, dismiss or diminish advice, especially if we don't feel that it fits our world view. You sound quite successful- to be a single parent and financially and emotionally comfortable enough to be considering another child, to be independent to such a level, demonstrates your success. Those characteristics are to be admired. But I would also suspect you have had to fly in the face of people who, possibly brazenly, possibly subconsciously, suggested your life would be easier or better if you were partnered. And you might be quite (rightly!) be used to saying sod off, I know what's best for me. And that's fine, for the most part, because adopters need to be ballsy and pushy in order to advocate for their child and themselves. However, I do have a few thoughts.

I remember being outraged by a social worker who said I shouldn't even think about adopting siblings who had not lived together previously because they would always be anxious around each other, fight and never truly settle. Ultimately, I genuinely believe we were right to adopt the kids we have... And yet their relationship with each other remains one of the defining factors of their lives, characterised by anxiety, yet deeply misunderstood by the professionals working with them because a sibling bond and attachment is not a particularly common one to work with in the same way that parental attachment is. It is only after nearly 2 years of work in therapy that anyone has even mentioned their relationship with each other, which we considered to be one of the fundamental parts of their lives. There is precious little support about kids in our situation, and so we have had to make do and mend, adapt advice about blending step families with trauma informed practice and adoption practice with what we know about them etc. It's a whole thing.

And so, when you have people saying things like that to you, I would always consider the provenance of their opinions. Are they experienced adopters, social workers, adoption specialist therapists, or an adoptee themselves? Or is it some random acquaintance who has never met an adoptive family, who wouldn't understand the nuances of the situation and thinks all adoptees should be grateful for a family (lolololol)? I'm not saying the experts are always right- my kids are a proper little team now, and I have no regrets about it, but I would say that, looking back on it, that old battle axe social worker had a point. We glossed over it, dismissed it as an outrageously inhumane thing to say (siblings! Together! Family! Reunited!)... And yet her concerns held water, and she was right. Our lives, and our boys lives, are not always made easier by a very complex sibling relationship that has little precedence in even the adoption arena. Our lives are richer, more satisfying, more energetic, funnier and infinitely better because we have both of them, but it is not easy, and I wish I had looked past my own outrage to look at what her concerns were in order to make a properly informed judgement about the level of support that was available for this specific issue. It has been difficult to be continually dismissed by those who know nothing and say "all siblings do that", and to be dismissed by those who know something, who say "the primary caregiver bond is the only thing that matters" and those who know a lot... Well, when I've found them I'll let you know!

So what I'm saying is, you know your situation, but don't dismiss out of hand concerns that people raise. It may not be kind in the way they say it, or feel pleasant, and might not be a reason to stop, but it might ultimately be a reason to pause and consider. That battle axe social worker is the reason we felt able to handle it when the kids were physically fighting so badly that they bled- we had done such a a deep dive into why we thought she was wrong, researched how little information there really was about this and then formulated our own plan with the therapist to reduce the emotional and physical harm that we felt as prepared as it was possible to be.

I'm happy to pontificate further about adopting with a birth child, despite not having done it myself (because why not, what else is the internet for, eh?) but this is what I mean about checking credentials. My experience is only relevant for certain aspects of your story, and whilst you could draw upon it more than, say, someone who had a new baby sibling, there is less to be gained from it. But you might find a nugget in my comments that is applicable to your situation.

I would strongly advise that you go to a few adoption events where you can speak to a social worker about the process, and about the implications adoption with a birth child might have for you, the BC and the AC.

However, off the top of my head, these are the questions I would be asking myself:

How does my BC deal with children who show unwanted behaviour? Would that change if the other child was in their space or in their territory?

Could my BC handle not being the centre of attention for long periods of time?

Would BC feel rejected or left out if I had to take AC to appointments, introductions, transition sessions etc? Especially if they weren't invited?

How does BCs story and narrative compare to ACs? Are there similarities that might make them worried or scared?

How much of a support network does BC have, and would you be willing for them to use it extensively? (They might have a great relationship with grandparents but would you truly be happy if they were significantly dependent on them for emotional support if you were all tied up with AC?)

How are you going to prioritise your relationship with BC? Especially if things are tricky with AC? I'm talking practicalities here- is your support network able to cope with looking after tricky children? And even if they can, is one dedicated bonding activity a month with BC really going to cut it if the two of them don't get along and you have to focus on AC most of the time?

Are there any factors at play with BC and wider family? I.e you say you are single, but there must be a BF in the narrative somewhere. So would this cause any issues either way- either jealousy of an absent father from AC (why does your BC get to go with dad every weekend when I can't, why don't I get to have a dad) or from BC (why does AC get all the attention for not having a dad, I wish I didn't have one/didn't have to see them/am jealous you and AC spend time together when I'm with my dad) etc. Kids aren't always logical, and also are incredibly tactless. I'm in a SS relationship, and my two have recently started yelling "daddy, save me!' whenever they jump off the sofa onto the floor, then saying "you can't save me, you're not the daddy!', because they saw a cartoon of a sinking ship somewhere on their tablets with a daddy who rescued his kids. (Something to do with the the titanic) The therapist reckons they are processing abandonment, I think they find the very idea of me being a daddy hilarious, my mother is aghast that they aren't more sensitive and realise they 'don't have a daddy", which they do. And don't. And they have 3 mummies. But only two who live with them. Actually only 1 because I'm mama. Queer adoptive families can play fast and loose with stuff like that I guess. We have a dark sense of humour, so I bought a big fan that says daddy and I fan myself dramatically saying 'but my fans say I'm daddy!' and then rescue them anyway. However, this mainly works because neither of them are more sensitive about it than the other, we all have a weird sense of humour, and factually, there isn't a daddy in the house, it's all play. It wouldn't work if one of them was actually seeing a daddy every weekend, if you see what I mean.

Are you planning on a gender difference? Why or why not? Worth putting your thoughts in order.

Does BC have any other factors at play that might disrupt equity between them (SEND, confidence issues, dual nationality, step family, physical strength, health concerns, friendship issues etc) that might make them significantly different to AC?

I'm sure I've heard of support groups for BC actually .. that might be worth researching, but again it's about recognising your BC will be given an identity as the sibling of an adopted person, which has a specific set of challenges, and a lifelong commitment you are making for them to be a part of this minority group with possibly not very widely recognised (and sometimes socially inadmissible) feelings. Your kid might feel quite guilty about saying they don't like their adopted sibling much because all they do is ruin their stuff and argue with them, or feel jealous that they don't have your attention more, or whatever problems siblings usually have. But the problems have the potential to be exacerbated because.... Well, because trauma. They might find it difficult to admit these feelings to you because you are the one driving the adoption forward, but also because they might be excited about having a sibling, and love them very much, but not like how they do xyz. I'm not saying this is every experience, because there are many adopters on here who have BC and AC and it's a breeze, but I do know of some families who have really struggled with this, particularly if the AC is old enough, and has agency enough to cause problems for BC. 8 years old and a 1 year old sounds like a decent gap, and tracks well in that at 8years old, BC will be 16 and firmly in the next stage of life with no comparisons. An 8 year old and a traumatised 5 year old could be more tricky, for example, because good lord 5 year olds can be really annoying, and a badly handled broken Lego set at an inopportune moment has the potential to trigger a lifetime of resentment at the injustice of it all.

You have a lot to think about, and as ever, I would advise going through these boards and seeing what challenges other people have brought up, what reflections you can make about them and use it as a springboard into understanding your own situation. You won't be ready yet, because you haven't been through the process, but you will only ever know if it is the right choice by starting.

I wasn’t being dismissive at all. At least not intentionally. I was looking for advice and outlined some of the advice I had had about adopting with a birth child. I have been considering this for years - the impact on my child and the child I would adopt- and I listen to everyone’s advice and weigh it up.
i work in social services so have an understanding of the process and was just curious to hear other people’s experiences.
I wouldn’t say I was particularly successful but I’ve been lucky and hardworking enough to manage and do well as a single person while still making family my priority. At no point have I told anyone to sod off as I’m always keen to listen.
I really appreciate your response but I’ve actually worked in a social work setting for twenty years so, as I said, was really just looking to hear other ppls experiences. But thanks for the feedback!

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