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Nattyduckface · 16/02/2025 20:14

This might be a bit long
So me and my hubby are waiting to hear back from the local checks before starting stage one of adoption my husband hasn't got a job due to a crash but is getting help they were a bit weird about this which I get but we tired to explain he was getting money and will get money at the end I'm planning to put 100 pounds away in saving to start showing the adoption agency that we will have money and I will keep money into it even when the progress has ended and hopefully we have adopted
Anyone been the only one who works who could spread some light of this is going to take us out of the process all together also he has debt but is paying that monthly

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Ted27 · 16/02/2025 20:57

@Nattyduckface

I'm not quite clear from your post what your financial situation is but I think a number of factors might be at play.
If your husband isn't working because of a car crash that suggests to me some health issues - are they short or long term? When is he planning to return to work or do you plan on him being the primary carer and staying at home?
Do you have savings now? If not even if you start saving £100 (a month or weekly?) It's going to take you a long time to save a significant amount.
How do you plan on funding adoption leave?
What money is he getting ? Benefits, sick pay? What proportion is going on debt repayment, how long will it take to pay off? What does getting money ' at the end mean'?
How secure is your employment ?

I'm a single adopter so obviously only one income. However I earned a bit above average and was pretty bomb proof in terms of potential redundancy. I didn't have a huge amount of savings but I did have extremely generous adoption leave.

They aren't looking for 'rich ' people but they are looking for you to have stable finances and to be able to afford a child.
I'd add that I waited nearly 2 years to actually apply to adopt from when I first decided to do it. That included moving jobs to increase my salary and get the adoption package and generally get my finances in order.
I know I have bombarded you with a lot of questions. Don't feel obliged to answer if you don't want to, but they should get you thinking

Nattyduckface · 17/02/2025 10:18

Ted27 · 16/02/2025 20:57

@Nattyduckface

I'm not quite clear from your post what your financial situation is but I think a number of factors might be at play.
If your husband isn't working because of a car crash that suggests to me some health issues - are they short or long term? When is he planning to return to work or do you plan on him being the primary carer and staying at home?
Do you have savings now? If not even if you start saving £100 (a month or weekly?) It's going to take you a long time to save a significant amount.
How do you plan on funding adoption leave?
What money is he getting ? Benefits, sick pay? What proportion is going on debt repayment, how long will it take to pay off? What does getting money ' at the end mean'?
How secure is your employment ?

I'm a single adopter so obviously only one income. However I earned a bit above average and was pretty bomb proof in terms of potential redundancy. I didn't have a huge amount of savings but I did have extremely generous adoption leave.

They aren't looking for 'rich ' people but they are looking for you to have stable finances and to be able to afford a child.
I'd add that I waited nearly 2 years to actually apply to adopt from when I first decided to do it. That included moving jobs to increase my salary and get the adoption package and generally get my finances in order.
I know I have bombarded you with a lot of questions. Don't feel obliged to answer if you don't want to, but they should get you thinking

Edited

Sorry it's all a bit confusing lol
He's going back to work on paper his foot is fixed I work for the NHS so I'm going to take adoption leave he's getting money from the insurance every 3 months and when it has finished will get money to fund him getting a new job we can't get benefits due to me earning much a month I earn just about 1900 a month

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FinallyMummy · 17/02/2025 11:46

The social workers will be looking at your stability I would think.
They have to consider worst case scenario - what if your dc has needs that mean one of you can't work? Could one wage cover you?
If you don't have much in savings, how are you going to buy the things you need to set up for a new child? Ours is a toddler so we had to buy bedroom furniture (toddler bed, wardrobe, drawers, bookshelves), extras like a chair, bedding, curtains then the big things like car seats, buggy, smaller things like cutlery, even a rucksack to carry all their stuff around in.
And almost as soon as LO came home they had a growth spurt and we had to buy a lot of clothes and shoes.

We had to provide a financial forecast, basically showing our income and outgoings in a few scenarios (before adoption, while I was on adoption leave with the decrease in wages, if I were to go back 3 days p/w or 4, if I didn't go back at all and if both me and DH went part time (all options we had discussed). In each one we had to show that we could cover bills, have some spare and that it wouldn't put a huge financial burdon on us - the idea being that adoption and learning to parent a traumatised child is stressful enough.

If I were you I'd start with the forecast I mentioned. Do it for a year based on what you know now, and again for if you take adoption leave (you may need to double check how your pay will work). Beside it put a projection of your savings and how they'll grow, and a list of anything you'll need to buy (maybe have a look at some as I was surprised how expensive some things are but also how cheap we managed to find others).

Nattyduckface · 18/02/2025 09:37

Okay so this brings up another question
Do things have to be new ? When setting up a room for a child

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FinallyMummy · 18/02/2025 13:19

It doesn't need to be new, just clean and suitable.
We bought new furniture purely because it was on offer and the same price as some second hand stuff locally.
We've also repurposed some furniture (what used to be a nice hamper for blankets and slippers is a toy box) and clothes and toys were a mix of new and second hand from charity shops, Vinted and hand-me down stuff.

Jellycatspyjamas · 18/02/2025 13:29

If your DH has mobility issues that’s more likely to be a problem than money as such. I’d agree to do some forecasting taking account of what happens if he can’t go out to work. I’d also do a benefits check because £1900 is really not a lot and if you calculate for a child in the mix you may find you’re eligible for something.

Nattyduckface · 18/02/2025 14:45

Jellycatspyjamas · 18/02/2025 13:29

If your DH has mobility issues that’s more likely to be a problem than money as such. I’d agree to do some forecasting taking account of what happens if he can’t go out to work. I’d also do a benefits check because £1900 is really not a lot and if you calculate for a child in the mix you may find you’re eligible for something.

This seems like a problem and is worrying me 😔 my hubby has some mobility problems now but still manage to look after my nieces when we have them the forecast for his recovery is promising the expect him to be able to make a full recovery and he is ready to return to work when he gets the go I've been doing a lot of forecast the last couple of days lots of research about bulk buying nappies ect this is why I'm trying to put money away each month in my mind this shows if we get approved that I've got that money to buy thing and if I keep putting money away even if we get a child it would stay topped up just seems like I'm trying to get my hopes up now and to fail

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Ted27 · 18/02/2025 14:54

@Nattyduckface

Looking after neices and nephews is very different to having full responsibility for a child.
Kindly, you do seem to be getting yourself in a tizz about all this.
To be honest I'd think you would be better off waiting till your husband is back to full strength and you are clearer about your finances
Sometimes things are just about waiting for the right time

LeoLeo2 · 18/02/2025 15:43

I delayed for quite a while after my first initial meeting with an adoption agency.

I felt that it would be better in the long term to have a bit of a financial cushion at the start of the adoption journey - so I paid extra on my mortgage to reduce future payments, I saved as much as I possibly could and I stocked up slowly on non-perishable items such as toilet rolls, washing powder, sheets, shower curtains...

It turned out that was sensible because I was unable to go back to work for several years due to my child's needs (and their lack of ability to cope with anyone other than me looking after them).

At times when your washing machine or boiler breaks down just in the week your car also meeds a service, having some financial cushion is very helpful. There are enough stresses when adopting; if you can forward plan for some of them then you are in a much stronger position.

Nattyduckface · 18/02/2025 17:05

Thank you all for your replies on just thought when I enquired about adoption and we had a telephone call we openly spoke about this the lady who we spoke to was lovely and said I could see this as a problem but we will over come it when we get there
I think me and my other half need a talk about this before our LA checks come back

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Italiangreyhound · 19/02/2025 03:07

You've had lots of good advice.

Just to say re new verses second hand, lots of second-hand stuff is fine but mattresses must be new and also car seats.

Good luck.

Jellycatspyjamas · 19/02/2025 07:23

There’s no problem with “we’ll cross that bridge when we get there”, in some ways it’s a pretty resilient way of thinking. With adoption though there are lots things that come up that you just need to find a way through, so really working to minimise the ones that are predictable is import ant, because you’ll run out of capacity to think on your feet.

Things like finances and health tend to cause a lot of stress in the most resilient of people so having them on a reasonably even keel where possible will make things easier. Your DH is predicted to recover from his accident, but it sounds like the timeline on that is uncertain (as these things tend to be). His injury doesn’t mean you can’t adopt, but having a plan for what happens if he doesn’t recover will help social work make an assessment more fully. Also being clear about how his mobility is impacted, is he in pain, has his mental health been impacted - car accidents can be very traumatic, has he had some support for that etc. If he doesn’t recover, how might life look for you - are you likely to take on a caring role for him and how would that be with a child who really needs you?

In terms of finance, looking at your finances now how stable are they, what’s your employers adoption leave like, do they give an enhanced adoption leave package, what’s their attitude toward flexible working? You’re saving, which is great, keep going with that.

Sometimes it takes a while to be in a good place for adoption. Our approval took 4 years due to issues with jobs, health, family bereavement - while some of that couldn’t be predicted life would have been much less stressful if I had taken time to change my job, which impacted my health, before I started the process.

Good luck, there are very few things that are an absolute “no” in terms of adoption - sometimes it’s more a case of “not yet”. There’s nothing here that can’t be overcome.

Torvy · 24/02/2025 21:45

The other thing to consider about your OH's mobility is the level of pain management and sustainability that causes. It isn't just about his ability to care for the child, but also his ability to consistently support you too. You will be knackered and emotional and frustrated, and it can have a detrimental impact on your relationship, which in turn can impact on the stability of the house for the child.

In terms of finances, we figured we were pretty resilient, but it hasn't been easy. Financial pressure can be incredibly stressful on all relationships, especially if choices differ. We definitely upcycled and got some stuff second hand, but we were also mindful that some things the kids needed for consistency were the more expensive kind- we kept the same branded hot chocolate for example, and washing powder, which was a small but not unnoticeable expense. Add into that the costs of getting to therapy (3 times a week), needing to replace our car, school uniform, replacing dropped lunch boxes, shoes that were thrown out the window.... And some things you can get second hand or cheap, but some things you just need when you need them. And stressing about how to buy them on the cheap is, well, stressful. You always pay in time or in money. For example collecting the right sized clothes from charity shops or FB marketplace is all well and good, but it takes a long time, and isn't always guaranteed. If there is any way for you to avoid being reliant on that, or show you can accommodate for it, the better you will be. The initial set up for children was nowhere near as much as the ongoing expenses have been.

And then there is also little things like clubs and children's birthday parties, both hosting and attending, all of which cost money. Obviously they don't have to do those things, but if you factor in the social thinning adopted children often experience, anything that you can do to boost their social engagement is helpful. Again, it doesn't have to cost a lot, but it is a cost to factor in.

That's not even thinking about childcare costs when it eventually arises.

We basically saved up a year's salary, and then lived off my my other half's wage for the first year and then supplemented it by eeking out my wages plus savings over the two years that I ended up taking. We also paid off all debt apart from the mortgage.

So, if I were you, I would be looking at saving up an amount that you could realistically say to social workers that you could live off if you get to the end of adoption leave and you need more unpaid leave. If you have £1900 a month now and both of you can live comfortably whilst saving £100 a month, y@ou need to consider that it would take you 18 months to save enough to extend your adoption leave by 1 month, but only if your costs don't increase, and you have no other expenses.

Do you have family or friends that you could turn to for support if you needed it, for example? Could they support with childcare or even financially?

The final thing I would more is that whilst debt can be ok, you have to remember that it does rack up. So have you included the cost of borrowing the money in your calculations? Knowing you are spending £1000 a year for the privilege of owing a company money without even repaying what you owe can really focus ones mind!

There's no reason not to get the ball rolling though, and getting a view from social workers about what they think would be a decent amount to save. And you also have to remember, it is also about convincing the child's social worker, not just your own social worker.

Wells37 · 25/02/2025 17:39

When we adopted they wanted to see we were flexible and what we could cope with financially.
I was lucky I got a year's adoption leave and already worked part time as we already had a child. I ended up going back very part time. They wanted to know we had thought about finances if I couldn't go back at all.
I think showing a can do attitude really helped. Eg being willing to make financial sacrifices and tighten our belts if necessary.

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