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Anxiety and Adopting

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Ruby82 · 20/09/2024 09:54

Hi everyone ( huge deep breath) coming here for advice and guidance is the way I’m feeling normal? I have been married 17 years to my best friend unfortunately after many IVFS failures many heart breaks, we never got a baby. We plodded along with life. Only Spoke about adoption few times in our marriage and again put it on a back burner and lived our lovely quiet simple life.

last weekend out for breakfast, I mentioned to him about possibility of adoption as we are not getting younger I’m 42 he’s 43 than there was a spark In his eyes, he’s been very excited talking about it none stop wanting to make phone calls etc etc ( it’s like someone had put me in a washing machine full spin! Gone from 0-100 so fast!) I have been waking up at 3am in a cold sweat.

I have always been an anxious person VERY anxious, I think after so many failed IVFS my mental health took a beating and I’m So sensitive. Im a creature of habit that hates changes, thrive of routine ( been getting the same lasagne and coke for the past 10 years from my local Italian - that’s how much I hate change) I don’t like noise I am so sensitive to noise.

I had a full breakdown at work yesterday and I never cry in public or show emotions ( my manager has known me for 15 years and told me you have the kindest heart ever but you need to learn to relax more and not panic, and what ever decision you make no regrets, adopt no regrets when your 80 or don’t Adopt and never regret it)

my husband gets in from working I’m hoovering sorting out the sock draw 😞 it’s like I want to the avoid the conversation. I know this is my anxiety playing up.

I’m scared of the home study the intrusive questions, when baby comes home will I be like what on earth have I done? Am I going to make the biggest mistake of my life? Or the happiest decision of my life? being married for 17 years just me and him wish we didn’t wait this long as we have built this little safe bubble. has anyone regretted it ( taboo I know) will it complete us? My husband is a loving soul and I know he will make the best dad ever: kills me inside that my anxiety will stop him being a dad. He will never force me but I can tell by his eagerness this week, while I’m like a sloth zero motivation and on edge. I’m already missing the life I am living and the baby isn’t here yet. ( is this normal? Or is it because I’m so anxious that’s why I have so much whizzing in my head)

Change is good I know, people say when you see the baby it’s YOURS 100% your fears melt away, fun days out, a purpose in life, you get your own family unit. It sounds so amazing and I know I can love hard. Someone that hates changes as much as I do this freaks me out so so much. My husband wants this more than me I can see it in his actions and words.

Am I being a wimp? Am I being realistic? Maybe the social worker will meet me any say this lady is a nervous wreck - unfortunately it’s who I am I just don’t know how to relax.

I think when you get pregnant wait 9 months and your a mum, with adopting I think there’s so much preparation meetings so many Chances to freak out and not good for anxious people.

I don’t know if I’ve made sense looking for reassurance really. I think once I take the dive I will do my best, I think it’s that initial first step that scares me to death. I told my husband can we wait till next year he said no if we do it now or we just don’t talk about it again and close that chapter forever as we not getting younger.

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Swimmingatdusk · 20/09/2024 10:14

I think this is quite a difficult situation if your DH is really keen and you have serious reservations. Together you should perhaps look at information re adoption breakdowns and look at the adoption threads on here. Personally I think intrusive questioning is not much to face compared to the long haul of raising a child who is quite likely not to be a baby when you meet them and is also quite likely to have experienced difficult circumstances that have damaged them. I think you should get counselling for your anxiety in any case and also get more info re the kind of children who are in need of adoption in this country these days. I think you’re right to think it through seriously for the sake of the child you might adopt but I think you’re worrying about the wrong things. For the sake of your marriage this situation probably needs careful consideration. Sorry to say that, all best wishes. I m loathe to give you more to worry about but this would be for the good of a child and it’s important adoption is done well and children are not more damaged by being handed back.

onlytherain · 20/09/2024 12:59

I would do some thorough research on adoption. It is not the same as having a birth child. Maybe read Sally Donovan's "No Matter What", Dan Hughes "Building the Bonds of Attachment", "Preparing for Adoption" by Julia Davis and "Want to Adopt?" by Helen Oakwater. They are all very good books and give you very good overview.

Arran2024 · 20/09/2024 13:07

Hi. I adopted 2 children 23 years ago. I think you have a rosy idea of adoption, sorry - very few babies are available and most people adopt older children, often sibling groups, who have been forcibly removed due to abuse/neglect. These children often have learning disabilities, behavioural challenges....it can be very rewarding to parent these children but it is not a case of getting an issue free baby like people did in the 60s.

I suggest you start looking into the realities of UK present day adoption before you make any decisions. Adoption is really about meeting the needs of the child rather than helping adults create a family.

tonyhawks23 · 20/09/2024 13:21

Id also suggest Sally Donovons No Matter What as a good starting point, Id get that book and have a look at the Adoption UK website, its really helpful. If you start with research you may feel like you are making a sensible step without making any definite decisions. Like PP said the process is not much compared to having a child so seperate that worry maybe?
I would say that what you mention about 'loving your child 100%, having your fears melt away and having fun days out' may be unrealistic expectations! But research will help you understand more about adoption and whether it is a good plan.

Beth216 · 20/09/2024 13:35

Are you ND OP? Just asking because high anxiety, sensitive, struggles with change, likes routine, doesn't show emotions, sensory issues with noise could all be typical of ASD.

Anyway be prepared that you're very unlikely to adopt a baby, more likely to be a young child as SS do everything they can to keep a family together in the first place. This of course also means the child may have had a very difficult start, have then been removed from the family, will start over again in foster care and then will be facing starting all over again with you. So they will have been through a lot already.

I think suggesting to your DH that you both need to read up and do some research is a good idea - it gives you a bit of breathing space and will mean you are both better prepared and sure this is for you.

Ruby82 · 20/09/2024 18:48

I Thank each and every one of you for your replies. I will definitely try and read a few of those books. I spoke to my husband today and he said we will do more research and these fears are very normal and natural. Since I was a child it’s just who I am I get myself in a pickle about absolutely everything, passed my driving test after 5th test because my nerves got the best of me. I over think absolutely everything. I know deep down we will make great parents lots of love to give and a lovely home. I just wish I can fast forward the build up to it. I heard it can take one year for a home study to complete, that’s a very long time ( things like this stress me the waiting around I guess) I know it will test us as a couple but I think we will be strong when working together.

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onlytherain · 20/09/2024 18:55

Adoption is a marathon not a sprint. It took us 2.5 years from first call to an agency to placement. That is not particularly long. Mind you, having a birth child is also not something people do in a month.

I found the podcast/radio show Creating a family very helpful. It is American, so not everything applies to the UK, but they cover a lot of ground in an honest but reasonably positive way. They do fortnightly interviews with experts in the field. creatingafamily.org/category/radio-show/

tonyhawks23 · 20/09/2024 21:30

Sounds good, he's right its very natural and normal to have worries - it would be being naive to go in to it without all that, and its sensible to start up the research and see where your at - maybe you'l both decide its not for you or maybe as you learn about it you'l feel more in control of it as you understand it etc and the anxiety will change?
For us it was 3 years, it is a slow process. The build up needs to be slow to really prepare you, and even then maybe nothing can really prepare you, it is a huge change. And I think the worry about it can stay around for a long time, but if you do start the process once you do have a social worker you can talk it all through, just be honest and they will support you.
Some other great research is the A&F podcast, and Adoption UK are great with a lot of webinars and they do a prospective adopter zoom meet up which is really nice and supportive.

tonyhawks23 · 20/09/2024 22:55

Also what you say about loving a life of routine made me think that's a real positive,as one thing that tends to help adopted children is a stable predictable routine,same things every day,and thats not for everyone, maybe you'd be really good at that routine and stability and predictable life that helps the child feels safer. Our life with our children is very routine and predictable,huge changes along the way like school starts etc,but daily life needs to be same every day.

Italiangreyhound · 21/09/2024 16:07

Ruby82

I am a birth mum to a 19 year old and an adopter to a 14 year old. I do think adoption is great and I think others have said lots of stuff and can speak about adoption.

I'd like to speak about anxiety. I had anxiety at different points in my life caused by OCD (Obsessive Compulsive Disorder).

I spoke to my GP and had counselling for anxiety at the hospital. I had CBT (Cognitive Behavioural Therapy). This was amazingly helpful. I now do not suffer from anxiety. It does not mean that I do not ever feel anxious but it does mean that the irrational thoughts and concerns I once had, are not there.

If you have just finished fertility treatment, you will probably not be able to start the adoption process straight away, it will be about 6 months from now. I would look into the therapy, even if you need to pay for counselling.

It's really good to get as informed as possible during the wait to get started.

I honestly think being a mum is the best and hardest thing I have ever done.

I would recommend parenthood to anyone but get yourself as well and healthy, happy etc as you can at the start.

Torvy · 24/09/2024 05:14

Anybody who is going into adopting and isnt feeling at least a tiny bit nervous hasn't done enough research 😆

But I think you need to balance it out. To some extent, you need to be working heavily on reducing the anxiety because you will end up having a breakdown if the level of emotions isn't dealt with and you may have a child who is very responsive to that. My children provoke anxiety in me in so many different ways, and I have to work so hard to not let it allow me to try and overly control their behaviours. From physical shenanigans to bring worried about their mental health to debating whether they are in enough clubs, whether they will run their smart mouths to the wrong person in the future.... It is a whole set of new anxieties that I'm happy to say has to some extent replaced my old ones. However, I work hard to ensure that my worries aren't shaping their life, that I don't over coach them in social situations, and that some stuff I just keep in perspective or let go.

One thing that stood out to me was your note that you don't show emotions. I'm wondering whether that is related to anxiety (I might lose my job if I did) or a sort of pride (I'm just not that type of person). Each of those has a drawback. Your job may have to change if it causes you rant mgh anxiety there. Your adopted child will need to see you model how to deal with strong emotions effectively. They need to see you be nervous, angry, sad and cross so that they have a framework of how best to deal with it. It can't be an act either, because that's not sustainable. You could keep it up for a bit, but goodness me it will come rip-roaring out when the chips are down.

The other thing I wanted to note was that you seem to be aware of your ways of coping (sorting the sock drawer, tidying) which is good. It sounds much more healthy than downing tequila slammers or mainlining 12 bars of chocolate. However, as a coping mechanism, it seems more vulnerable when you live with an AC, because quite a few AC I know (mine 100% included), tend to recreate their internal chaos externally. It's nigh on impossible for my two to keep anything in a box, they gleefully scatter Lego like it is confetti and mealtimes look like an all out bar brawl has gone wrong. They use paired socks as cannon balls to keep the bad guys at bay and when they are cross, upend baskets of both clean and dirty laundry down the stairs, mainly because they have to have a way to get me to feel the unbearable internal feelings they have, and they know that I will be cross about having to pick up and sort out the laundry once more. The panicked look on my face as I dash towards them in a vain attempt to prevent the dirty load going on top of the clean load was clearly intensely satisfying to my roaring 3 year old who couldn't get me to see how badly he needed to have the screwdriver I had just confiscated from him for trying to put it in an electric socket. I'm also not saying shovelling 3 kitkats down your throat on a school night is a good idea, but it can be done as you stick your head in the fridge and silently stick your middle finger up at them behind the door before taking a deep breath and entering into the fray once more to take the child currently rolling round in the laundry like Scrooge mcduck in his golden coins up to do bath and bed with a forced smile on your face rather than losing your shit.

To some extent, a lot of this will be worked out naturally. Stuff that I was anxious about previously, I no longer have the energy for. I couldn't give two hoots if my kids note my big belly very loudly in public, or if my manager at work sees my skip on wheels (sorry, car) as I leave on the dot, or if there is a snail on my kitchen table because it's more important to me that i keep to the kids routine and retain some semblance of sanity.

Becoming a mum has meant I have had to become honest about confronting the very best and worst traits of myself. I have had to reckon with the fact that I avoid confrontation, try to ameliorate situations, and do not call stuff out for fear of hurting other people. It did my kids no good. They need me to match them, blow for blow, advocate for them and push them, and I can't do that if I'm too busy worrying about the small stuff. But it has taken a lot of work and confidence building to get to this stage. My partner and I have had to have some absolutely brutal conversations where we got into the real granular detail about why we did what we did. Even this weekend, we argued on Sunday, and had to track it back to what I was actually cross about- that I had waited to eat dinner with her on Saturday and she didn't tell me early enough she wanted to go to bed early and I was disappointed because I wanted to chill and watch TV and eat pizza with her, and was also a bit jealous she got to go out with her friends and mine had cancelled the week before. However instead we spent all of Sunday sniping about inconsequential stuff because I was irritable and (here's the kicker) we spoiled our own day. The kids realised it, fed off it and were bouncing off the ceilings because of it. We talked, agreed to message one another if plans change and reconciled, all good, but the point is that Sunday was a write off because I had fallen back into old habits and hadn't dealt with the issue on Saturday, and assumed I would feel better by the Sunday. When she didn't magically know to apologise and bring me a consolatory cup of tea in bed, I was cross and decided to suffer in silence, and she obviously didnt understand, so was miffed right back at me. Ultimately, the consequence we missed out on what could have been a lovely day out and had a mediocre, slightly argumentative day instead.
I feel bad because we are trying to have successful days with our kids, and Sunday didn't go well not because of them but because of me.

I say all of this not because I want to add to your anxiety, but because examples of the granular detail become supremely important to certain aspects of your life. It is 100% worth sweating some of the small stuff like a missed text, because it is symbolic of the communication you have with your partner and the relationship you have. Kids will test and put pressure on it, and it becomes clear quite quickly where the stress points are. You should have some realistic strategies to manage that conflict that aren't ignoring it or hoping they can read your mind. You have to be able to tell the other one that they are going too fast or not fast enough because when the kids are involved, you have to do it for them. My wife has to be able to tell me that I'm being sulky when we are trying to make Sunday plans, and I have to be able to tell her she was being inconsiderate when she didn't message me, or how else will it be resolved? What are we modelling to the kids, that it's ok to just accept your partner's inconsiderate or sulky actions? And so that drive to do better and be better is both painful (who likes to admit they are being sulky?) but necessary if not for you, but for the kids.

You tend to find that most adoptive families are quite chilled out because throughout the process of adoption there is so little you can control outside of yourself that you quickly learn to distinguish what you can and can't control, and the bits you can (your relationships, self care, your temper), you have to do the work on them because otherwise you would be desperately unhappy and the kids you love will be too. It's impossible to fake, especially around hypervigilant kids.

So, all of this is to suggest that you and your husband have an honest conversation. The chances of you getting into anything too fast are slim to none. It's a bit like me saying I'm worried about how to look my best for the photo at the finishing line of a marathon- it's such a long way into the future with so many things to happen that there is literally no point in worrying about it now. The system is designed to build in waiting times, processing times, interminable chewing off your own leg with boredom times. But knowing that fact gives you the chance to discuss with your husband the way his momentum makes you feel off balance. His response to that will help you to work out your next priorities. Do you need to work on your communication skills? Is it that he doesn't know how you feel? Or doesn't care? Do you feel unable to give 100% because you are worried you will add fuel to his fire and start something you can't stop? If so, do you feel like you are his emotional brake? Could you maintain that if you had to deal with kids too?

As ever, it's a long post, but the examples and questions given and asked are to highlight the reality of living with adopted kids. Their special blend of hyper vigilance, bluntness and hyperactivity means that living with my boys is a genuine joy, but also tears away at any papering over the cracks. They deserve to have parents who can be vulnerable and strong and honest and nuanced all at the same time, but the work it takes to be that parent is so emotionally hard that it has taken us a long time to get where we are, and we definitely don't always get it right. I wish we had started earlier, and that's what you have a chance to do.

Wells37 · 26/09/2024 09:25

We adopted our ds and have a birth dd.
I found the adoption assessment process not nearly as stressful as ivf.
I had worry's before we started the adoption process too.
My advice would be to be very honest with each other and address any anxiety. Speak to your gp and get done counselling.
Having anxiety isn't necessarily a bad thing and if you do decide to go ahead addressing your anxiety will be seen as a positive.
Adoption has been a very positive experience for us.

Jellycatspyjamas · 27/09/2024 09:04

Change is good I know, people say when you see the baby it’s YOURS 100% your fears melt away, fun days out, a purpose in life, you get your own family unit. It sounds so amazing and I know I can love hard.

I think that's a very unrealistic expectation and one you need to really unpick. Even where the mum has given birth it's not always the case that they bond immediately, it can take time. In my case I really struggled with my DD for a year or so - I'd take a bullet for her now but initially she felt like an angry little stranger, I worked on loving her. With my DS (both adopted at the same time) feelings were much more instantaneous which made my relationship with my DD even more tricky to navigate.

I say that because not feeling what you think you should feel can really raise anxiety levels and make you think you're failing.

You will need to address your anxiety though, I found adoption hugely anxiety provoking and if it's something you struggle with already adoption will exacerbate that. Finding healthy coping strategies, ways to seek support, addressing the underlying factors will be very important if you are to be the most healthy mum for yourself and your child.

Luckily adoption wheels are slow turning, so you have time but if your initial reaction is as extreme as you describe I'd really want to work through that because children are unpredictable and need a calm, settled base. I'd also start now talking to your husband about how he envisages being a parent, how will he contribute to the household, what are his expectations of you - ie does he envisage you staying home to care for the child and him continuing to work, will you both reduce working hours, share adoption leave etc. His enthusiasm might wane a bit when the reality of him needing stepping up and the changes he'll need to make become apparent.

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