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Year 2 transition

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Itsrainingdogsandcats · 11/07/2024 13:14

When our son went from Reception to Year 1 we found out he hadn't been put with his 4 'best friends' and they had all been put in the same class together. Our son was very upset, felt he'd been punished, and didn't understand why he wasn't with them.

I challenged this at the time, asked about their training with attachment etc, but was fobbed off and told it was 'for the best'.
For the first 6 months of Year 1 he cried most days (and he doesn't cry unless hurt) and said he hated school.

We have regular meetings - every 3 months - with the Head and the Year Leader, to go over progress and also discuss where the PP is being spent. He doesn't have an additional needs, so this is normally just on school trips etc.
In these meetings we have also had discussions about transitioning into Year 2, and who would be preferred, so what happened before doesn't happen again. We have had at least 2 meetings to discuss names. From the 4 'best friends' we all agreed 2 may not be the best choice as they can all be competitive (football mostly!), but the other 2 would be good. And not both, just one.
The Head also said 6 months ago that she could see what we meant when we said he wasn't with any of his close friends in Year 1, and we said he doesn't get invited to birthday parties from kids in his class as he has nothing in common with them.

4 weeks ago the Head called us, said 'I'm thinking X and X for his class if you agree (which was 2 of the 4 boys), is there any additional names?'. We suggested 3 more names, and said ONE of the first two, and ONE of the second set would be great.

Last week we find out that our son isn't with ANY of the 4 boys, and they have again all been put together in a class. A class that will now not change until they leave at age 11. Our son has been put in a class with the 3 'additional' names we gave.

I emailed the Head, asked what had happened, and after a day or so she replied saying she was confused as she thought she got it right this time. I said he still wasn't with any of the 4 close friends, and again they'd left them all together.

She then called on Monday, apologised, and said the options are we leave our son where he is, or she could move him into the class with the 4 boys (as there is a space now as someone is leaving).

I said we're now stuck between a rock and a hard place (if that's the right saying?!) and need some time to think.

So we leave him in his current class, with none of his close friends, where he has to make new friendships again, all the while seeing his 4 close friends build their bond (as they would have been together for 3 years).
Or we move him to the new class, with ALL of the 4 close friends, and worry if that may be more disruptive/detrimental.

The other issue is me and my OH don't agree on what to do.

He feels school is about 'learning and education', but I think at 6 years old he needs to have those friendships, and not have to 'start over' every year to build new ones.
We are also very different people; I am more sociable and outgoing, value my friendships and make an effort to see my friends but am not 'educated' as such, whereas he is the total opposite to me and an academic, went to Uni and got great grades.

Can you offer some advice, please?

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Noimaginationforaun · 11/07/2024 21:07

Teacher/adoptive mum here.

I’d move him. If he spent so long so upset this year and still hasn’t made other friendships, move him. He will settle much easier in a class with his friends and the disruption will be minimal.

I would also suggest (if you don’t already) to arrange some play dates with the 4 children either 1:1 or as a little group just to help it along.

Look at Maslow’s Hierarchy of Needs - belonging (friendships, connection) comes before achievement etc!

Torvy · 11/07/2024 23:32

I would move him to the class with his friends.

Adopted kids suffer from social thinning, and it is so important to them and their worlds- it's hard to make friends anyway, especially if you have a tricky background! I would have been devastated if I had been over away rom my friends and they were all together. I would feel so leftout! No amount of extra marks in class would have made up for how unhappy I would have been.

On another note, if the other kids are disruptive then they should also be the first to be moved into a different class if it gets that bad... let the kids with a secure start in life take the knocks, not your son. Fight to keep him in the secure environment, don't let it be that oh he got moved in last, so he is the first out. Sorry, he needs consistency more than most kids, and so on.

Make the decision you would have wanted your mum to make for you. An unhappy kid isn't focusing on learning anyway!

EnergyCreatesReality · 12/07/2024 12:04

No advice, just solidarity as we have a similar situation.

My LO is finishing up in year R and we gave the teacher the names of her 3 best friends who she has known since she started nursery and were assured they would try to keep them together.

We found out yesterday she won't be with any of them when she goes up to year 1 and had a nightmare evening with hitting, shouting and crying which I know is a direct result of her feeling anxious about having to make new friends :-(

Itsrainingdogsandcats · 12/07/2024 13:26

Thanks for everyone’s comments.

EnergyCreatesReality -
100% push NOW for them to move her or do something! I wished I had last year, and have spent the last 12 months feeling I’ve let my son down. This is why I want to fight for him now, no one listened to me back then even though I knew what was best for him and his emotional needs, and it knocked my confidence, but I won’t let that happen again.
Don't be fobbed off with ‘we’ll see how it goes’ as they won’t do anything.

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Jellycatspyjamas · 15/07/2024 06:18

He doesn't have an additional needs, so this is normally just on school trips etc.

I hate to be “that” person, but he does have additional needs. His needs may be social and emotional but he does have additional needs - most children wouldn’t be in tears for 6 months because they weren’t with their friends, he does need more than other kids.

The reason I’m framing it like this is because even if he is put with his friends, he will still need support emotionally and with social engagement. If one of the children moves school or the group had a falling out he will need support to cope with that in a way other kids won’t. The school can use his PP for nurture training for teachers, to set up nurture groups, to do work with him on feeling safe through change etc.

Moving him will solve the immediate problem, and I would (and did) move my boy in similar circumstances, but longer term there needs to be support for him - this isn’t something that will resolve as his attachment to you becomes more secure. My DS has done a lot of work in school with teachers trained in attachment and trauma - he can verbalise when a change or cumulative changes are too much for him and he can identify what he needs to feel safe again.

He will need support regardless of whether you move him.

Daisylookslost · 15/07/2024 18:24

Well done OP it sounds like you are handling this very well, it wasn’t fair what they did to your LO for Y1 and I hope you have opted to put him back with his best friends!
our school left the YR classes together for Y1, all schools should do this.

Itsrainingdogsandcats · 16/07/2024 12:07

I need some more advice....... 😩

The Head called us yesterday and said we can put him in the class with his friends. All good.
We sat down with him last night, spoke about everything, and he was happy and said he wanted to be with his friends in the new class, but at the end of the conversation suddenly said he wanted to stay where he is!
I had another conversation this morning with him, and for the 10 min walk to school he again said he wanted to be in the new class, but when we got to school he said he wanted to stay where he was.......
Now I'm even more conflicted, as the reason I pushed for him to change class was because of what he'd told me the last 2 weeks, that he was sad and wanted to be with his best friends, but now I just don't know what to do....

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Jellycatspyjamas · 16/07/2024 12:30

To be honest, I think it’s too big a decision for a 5 year old to make and he’s showing you that in his responses.

What do you think the best decision would be for him based on your knowledge of him - remembering that he now has the experience of being in school away from his friends. You can build on that experience and support his resilience (which has its merits) or arrange for him to be with his friendship group possibly making school feel more secure (which also has its merits). You’ve discussed it with him and he’s in two minds so I’d make a decision, explain that to him, and stick with it.

I think it shows the complexities of trying to get it right for our kids and negotiating with schools etc to support and accommodate our kids.

Itsrainingdogsandcats · 16/07/2024 14:39

It’s such a tough decision to make. I honestly thought letting him be involved would help, but it’s almost like he’s trying to please everyone, saying one thing and then the opposite, and trying to please everyone. 😩

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EnergyCreatesReality · 17/07/2024 11:56

Itsrainingdogsandcats · 12/07/2024 13:26

Thanks for everyone’s comments.

EnergyCreatesReality -
100% push NOW for them to move her or do something! I wished I had last year, and have spent the last 12 months feeling I’ve let my son down. This is why I want to fight for him now, no one listened to me back then even though I knew what was best for him and his emotional needs, and it knocked my confidence, but I won’t let that happen again.
Don't be fobbed off with ‘we’ll see how it goes’ as they won’t do anything.

I've spoken to her teacher and he's said that while he appreciates who she has said are her best friends they've spent a lot of time mixing the children up into different groups and the children she's with are the ones that she has more interaction with and gets on better with - less distractions and arguments!

Essentially, they feel they've made the right decision for her and have said that they'll provide her with additional support as needed.

I did ask her and she said she's happy to be in the class she's in as she's got the teacher she likes.

I know with one of her friends they do tend to argue quite a bit and I was talking to her mum and we've both said that we don't know if it's because we want the girls to stay together rather than it being best for them. I also know that these 3 are the ones I'm friends with the parents so we have play dates outside of school so that may be clouding it.

Based on that I don't know whether to challenge it further now.

Itsrainingdogsandcats · 17/07/2024 12:33

EnergyCreatesReality - it is tricky isn't it, to know what to do for the best.
At our school we knew they mixed classes again from Year 1 to Year 2, so that was always an 'option', but I know some schools don't do that.

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