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Medical procedures and birth stories

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Torvy · 09/05/2024 21:34

L.O (4) had a medical procedure recently requiring a day in hospital. He is fine and dandy now, but we had to warn the staff about his temperament and outbursts because it can be quite volatile and I didn't want a member of staff to accidentally get a fist in the face because they thought it would be calming to lean in and try to good naturedly soothe him. Health and safety and all that. We pre warned them about him being adopted, separation anxiety, medical conditions, picky eating, so on and so forth. There were whole conversations about how to manage it, and generally it was quite well managed.

However, I was struck by how many times on the day we were very casually and publically asked about the circumstances of his birth- was it vaginal or c section, info about his heel prick test, etc etc, as well as birth mothers general health, which is relevant to us because of the FASD potential but had been discussed in detail prior to that with the consultant. Like, to me knowing that isn't something that should be found out as you are scrubbing up... right? Would it impact on the care you were about to give him? If so why was this not communicated to you or the team earlier? If not, then.... why ask at that moment? I figure it must have a purpose but I don't really know why. I don't think it is a criticism, but I also don't know how I feel about it. I'm processing lol. I did wonder, are the doctors just trying to make slightly awkward conversation because they are questions nervous mums can answer because they have answered them a million times over? Like, as a teacher you often ask how the kid finds their homework at home, you don't really care about the answer but it gives you a chance to open up a conversation about the kid not doing any homework for weeks, or a hairdresser asking how your holiday was. Like conversational fillers, habits?

Anyway, I guess my question for you lovely lot is this: is there an age at which this information becomes less relevant? Like, I don't remember being asked about that when I went in for an operation when I was 14, it was all about my own bodily experience and so by my reckoning somewhere in the next 10 years we won't have to recount this information because it won't be medically necessary. Nobody is asking a 35 year old bloke how he entered into the world because there are bigger fish to fry. However, it would be nice to know roughly when that might be or when I can safely tell the doctors that if it really that relevant they can bloody well check his notes before a loud chat on a public ward and to please stop adding an extra layer of trauma to a situation when he is currently climbing the walls and ramming the little tykes cars into the oxygen cannister under the bed as he screams incomprehensibly about needles and not being left alone.

To clarify, i wasn't offended or upset, just a bit surprised. If it is relevant or pertinent, I don't have a problem proffering the information, but at some point surely something else takes precedent in the hierarchy of questioning? Maybe puberty? I dunno. Any relevant experience or comments welcomed.

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solongandthanksforallthedish · 09/05/2024 22:02

Glad kiddo is ok.

I would guess over 5 it stops being asked routinely. It's just part of 'history taking' for young children. It's not conversation, it's convention. In the pre-ward round meeting, he'll be presented as "x with blah, past history of blah, birth history of blah, tests have shown blah, and overnight he's needed blah..."

If you don't want to discuss in front of him, you could try and remember the questions that are uncomfortable, and have the answers on a card to handover?

mumof2many1943 · 10/05/2024 09:52

Don’t know if this is entirely relevant but one of ours mother was a drug addict. On many hospital appointments (until he was16!) I was repeatedly asked was I still taking drugs!

Jellycatspyjamas · 10/05/2024 20:08

My DD had surgery when she was 9 and I wasn’t asked any of those questions and to be honest would have stopped that line of questioning pretty quickly. They took her history during the pre-med checks a week before the surgery, by phone so we could speak without her over hearing. Those notes were passed to the surgeon and anaesthetist so on the day of the surgery they were focused on her needs.

Torvy · 10/05/2024 21:58

@solongandthanksforallthedish that's useful to know- I don't want anything in his care to be overlooked, but in equal measure it just feels a bit of a tricky thing to have to discuss when we normally try and have the conversations in a less stressful situation. I had done what @Jellycatspyjamas did, and so that's why I was a bit surprised at how often it was brought up. It was just every other person wanted to ask the same or similar questions.

@mumof2many1943 oh goodness me... I don't even know what to say! What a loaded question to just have asked in front of everyone!

Anyway, LO is currently lounging about taking full advantage of a feeble cough and a weak touch to his throat to indicate that his haribo pot is empty and somebody needs to immediately fill it or he might expire on the spot, so I don't think it is lingering in his mind too much. I was just curious, because it is another thing I hadn't really thought about! I reckon after 5 or 6 I might start to ask how much difference it will make to medical advice that will be given were he to have been born by c-section, and proceed with my responses accordingly.

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Jellycatspyjamas · 11/05/2024 01:22

I had done what @Jellycatspyjamas did, and so that's why I was a bit surprised at how often it was brought up. It was just every other person wanted to ask the same or similar questions.

The hospital was our local children’s hospital who have been consistently excellent, very trauma aware in their care or her. They are one of the few places where whatever I say she needs or struggles with, they completely get it with minimal explanation. She’s been involved with various departments there and they’ve all been great, very sensitive at all times.

Other hospitals and clinicians have been less so, I’ve had to remind them to check her notes, divert and redirect conversations that are inappropriate or insensitive to have in front of her. There’s really no need for it.

Jellycatspyjamas · 11/05/2024 01:25

Anyway, LO is currently lounging about taking full advantage of a feeble cough and a weak touch to his throat to indicate that his haribo pot is empty and somebody needs to immediately fill it or he might expire on the spot,

Can I also say I just love this picture - glad he’s enjoying some TLC in the form of haribo, which is the pinnacle of post surgery nutrition in this house too.

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