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Not sure if we will get approved

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smae98 · 08/06/2022 08:03

Hi, me and my partner would love to adopt but after extensive research we're unsure whether we would be accepted.
We have many things going against us
. Lack of references (huge family support network, lack of friends)
. Past trauma from both of us resulting in poor mental health that will be documented in our gp records (we are fine now)
. Lack of childcare experience. I may be fine with this one but my partner has had no experience at all
. Weight. Would be an issue now but its something we are willing to change to get what we want
. Finances. Both have stable jobs with reasonable incomes but no savings

We have things in our favour such as being homeowners and my partner has what is considered a good career.

We are honestly at a loss as to whether to even bother applying as I thi k the lack of references will be a huge issue 😔 any advice?

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Ragruggers · 08/06/2022 08:12

Having been through the process but many years ago it is invasive.Some of those on your list are for you to sort out ie weight can you do this?References can be from work,church,voluntary work ie sport ,children’s group. You will need police checks.Savings,can you save a regular amount?Children are very expensive but being homeowners is a positive but is the mortgage high if one of you stopped work.The only way to find out is to apply,good luck.So many children need homes.

Ted27 · 08/06/2022 09:35

I don't think many people are in the optimum place when they start thinking about adoption, I certainly wasn't

Above all as an adopter you need to be resourceful and a problem solver. Everything you have listed is solvable
You can lose weight, you can save ( though if you both have jobs and can fund adoption leave you don't need that much) significant debt would be more of a concern,

Your husband can get childcare experience - if you have a big family network are there not children you can borrow? Or do what many people do and look for some voluntary opportunities
I think references from family are fine - but think a bit more laterally about neighbours, work colleagues etc.
Your mental health will be discussed during assessment but if you are fine now it shouldn't be an issue - though the social workers will want to consider whether your previous trauma may be triggered by adoption and how you would look after yourself
So you may not be ready to start now - but no reason why you couldn't be in a good place in 6 - 12 months

claireb7rg · 08/06/2022 20:54

Some of your points I don't know about but neither of us had any childcare experience other than occasional meeting up with our nieces and nephews.

We were approved 1st time round and our children (yes we have siblings) have been with us 6 months now

SellingBee · 10/06/2022 23:00

The best way to find out is to have a chat. Voluntary agencies can be more open minded than LAs. All of the stuff you mentioned would be covered in stage one of the process and if any of it was seen as a weakness in your application you can have time out to address it ie loose weight, save up etc

Torvy · 11/06/2022 06:54

Hi,

We dealt with quite a few of the issues you spoke about within our adoption process. You have to consider that the approval process itself takes quite a long time, and the action of remedying some of the concerns, showing you can react to feedback, and determining how you react to potentially stressful social worker questioning is part of the process.

I'll use one example of the type of questions they may ask and the things we did to be considered. For context, I'm significantly overweight but my partner is not. We've just been approved, but it was a bit if a slog and this was something that was talked about quite a lot, so so know how hard it its! Ive written quite a long post, but hopefully some of these tips might be helpful or thought provoking. None of the questions are for you to actually answer now or in public, but just to think about!

So for instance with your weight, they might ask whether you know how overweight you are, what the consequences are of being overweight, what your triggers about food are etc and then (which I think is the important part) consider how you react. Are you defensive, reactive, passive? Were you completely clueless about it (not great) or did you have an understanding of your body and evidence that you are working on being as healthy as possible (you have an exercise programme and have, for example, joined some sort of slimming club, or gym etc). Do you model the behaviour you want your children to follow? When it is mentioned, do you get upset in the moment (like when a child is angry and says hurtful things when they are dysregulated)? Will you be devastated because a professional may say they don't think you can handle children with significant food issues? (would you recognise if they keep asking for more food when they aren't hungry do you recognise its possibly an emotional reaction and you know that because that's how you handle it yourself and you've done xyz to deal with this and so can help a child) etc. Do you have a coherent and consistent narrative about the factors surrounding your weight that fits with the rest of your own life story work? Have you done reading about children/food/trauma, and what were your thoughts on it? How does your partner feel about your weight, and do they support you with being healthy or do they suggest another takeaway and chocolate? (Not that I'm saying that's always bad, but it's about reflecting on how you work through these things as a couple)

There are ways that even with a high BMI you can turn it into if not a positive, the less of a negative that could be viewed positively. None of them are compulsory, but are ideas about ways you could demonstrate awareness.

Joining a weight loss organisation that issues weight loss certificates, speaking about these in a positive way. Also a good way to build local support networks and talk about specific issues with likeminded people. Plus there were lots of mums from local schools there who were willing to talk to me abouts schools in the area, so it whittled a few from my list.

Showing that you have resolved any body confidence issues- for example would it affect you going to the gym because you are nervous about being "the fat one" or do you do it anyway? Talk about how you resolved whatever that may be.

Showing you have spoken to your GP about weight management.

Developing a sustained exercise plan that is tracked- for example couch to 5k, a gym programme, sponsored walks etc

Including reading about trauma and food issues

Genuinely reflecting on your weight and the reasons- is it medical, boredom, emotional, a combination, and then exploring how you have considered that throwing a child into the mix might exacerbate any of these. What meals would you plan for a child and why?

Doing exercise things with your partner- running (or walking!) registered races like the race for life as a couple shows you are supportive of one another, maybe you got a joint gym membership. If you get sponsored by your network it can show you have their buy in and support

If you are observed with children, make sure there are opportunities to show you are physically active- run around a few times after the children (sounds daft, definitely was mentioned in our reports). Going to a park and playing racing games worked

Exploring holiday options, do you go to the beach and lounge about or do you go on plenty or bracing hikes with lots of fresh air?

What do you imagine your life with children be like? Will exercise and healthy eating be part of it? How?

Looking into body positivity vs body neutrality movements and whether either of those chime with you and why

Have you considered therapy/surgery and why or why not? Whatever response you give needs to be thoughtful, and is OK but you need to show you have a rationale for engaging with the services you do or don't.

These are all things that we considered and reflected on, and then became practical ways of actually showing we were living the values we said we had. It's interesting because my weight didn't change much (a couple of lbs, which isn't much in the grand scheme of things) but you need to focus on the emotions around it. I felt really defensive- I had been working a lot on self esteem about how I looked, but then realised I felt quite defensive about how much emphasis was put on exercise until I did reading about trauma and how movement is fundamental to supporting lots of work with traumatised children.

Its the same with mental health- are you a competent agent and advocate within your own life, with a clear, proactive understanding of what options you have and the outcomes etc. It can be helpful to write it down or work out which bits are emotional.

Basically, what I'm saying is that the process itself is significant and insightful, and you can definitely start the ball rolling with any weight loss if that's a barrier you can see, but doing it with a clear intention as to why and what you are going to get out of it may help with any reflections later on so that if they move from being barriers to being positives. I hope this is helpful!

Tl;dr: don't let weight be an issues, just have a plan as to what you are doing about it and the reasons behind it!

ewright86 · 26/06/2022 20:16

Me and my husband were approved in august this year. Yes they do look at these things, but they give you time to save money, they offer you counselling sessions if they feel you need it and offer advice on how you can obtain childcare experience. My advice would be, if you really want it, go for it. If they say no… what have you lost? Nothing.

if you aren’t successful your agency will also explain why you haven’t been successful which allows you the chance to go away and work on their feedback and you can then apply through another agency.

Robyn25ttc · 27/06/2022 11:42

Hi, we also have similar concerns. Happy to speak to you about it, if you want some support or someone on the same page as you.

Italiangreyhound · 03/07/2022 14:05

smae98 I hope you will look into this in your area and see what the situation is.

The first thing you need is a big desire to be a parent and that desire has to override the concerns etc and push you forward, IMHO.

. Lack of references (huge family support network, lack of friends) - personally, I would start making a few good local contacts now. You can volunteer in a child-friendly setting and get to know a few local people that way. Rainbows or Scouts, a local school etc. Please @Ted27 share you amazing gardening club idea!
. Past trauma from both of us resulting in poor mental health that will be documented in our gp records (we are fine now) - I am sorry to hear that, I too have had mental health issues. The key thing is to show you have worked through things, perhaps with counselling. Most of us who adopt (not all) have had years of fertility treatment and/or fertility issues and may have had counselling for that too.
. Lack of childcare experience. I may be fine with this one but my partner has had no experience at all - Please see my comments re referees. Think outside the box and encourage your partner to do likewise.
. Weight. Would be an issue now but its something we are willing to change to get what we want - I was and still am overweight. I am very slowly losing weight but it has been a long haul. I needed to show willing, try and lose some and also demonstrate I could shop and cook healthily etc.

. Finances. Both have stable jobs with reasonable incomes but no savings Start saving now. Little and often if needs be. Honestly, it is not easy for any of us and I am bad with finances. It does help to make a budget and stick to it, have savings in the budget.

I know you did not ask for advice but I don't think any of these things will rule you out and the sooner you start, the sooner you can get there. make goals and celebrate them!

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